Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

i think if the wine dude was like "i hate all wine stores, they're full of snobs, i'll be glad when you can just buy wine online" the stores would be within their rights to pull his products! no one said he had to distribute his wine via stores in the first place!

There really isn't a 'line' to draw imo--these are more like two isolated cases, not a trend towards limiting anyone's shopping experience.

To be totally truthful, I don't like stocking Burzum records either, but I got outvoted by my co-workers on that one.

and I think, to me, the difference between say burzum and skrewdriver, is that burzum's songs are about the lord of the rings and shit, while skrewdivers are about white pride etc. So there's something offensive in the actual content of the latter, and it's not a decision based solely on the politics of the creator.

in this way it's sort of different from wine, because when you open a bottle of wine, hate speech doesn't come pouring out. ever.

fyi when you carry burzum records, you're giving money to an unrepentant and vocal white supremicist and thusly making his life as an unrepentant and vocal white supremicist easier

i am aware of this. like i said, i was outvoted on that one. shrug. feel like maybe i'm getting trolled at this point, and i'm too hungover to continue with this silliness. xoxo

I'm with you 100% on not stocking john maus btw. "My store, my rules" is as good a defense as any when it comes to record store stock

i think sommeliers should get into those kind of metaphors. "redolent of dried cherry, cut grass, shop closures, instability, and hate speech."

though the burzum thing in brooklyn is like super weird to me. like i remember in the 90s when record stores had a VERY STRICT "no racists" policy because they didnt want to suppoort them financially. But in 2011 it's totally Ok as long as cool people like them. I'm sure if Bjork wore a Skrewdriver shirt to a shoot, stores would be diving over each other to carry their records

I get you Whiney, but as ian said above I think a lot of it does come down to content. The content of Burzum's records is not hateful or racist, but Skrewdriver's is.

Honestly if John Maus has a problem with paying for his music then he should just give it away for free. The fact that he isn't kind of underlying the BS-ness of his BS.

like i remember in the 90s when record stores had a VERY STRICT "no racists" policy because they didnt want to suppoort them financially. But in 2011 it's totally Ok as long as cool people like them.

maybe you and I have p differing experiences here but it seems to me that in the 90s, as now, Burzum was more or less the singular exception to this because of various justifying getout clauses (and possibly the unspoken one, that people actually want to buy his records)

I mean ftr I have noticed a kind of fetishism of the 'taboo' re: Skrewdriver and one or two other bands among like Termbo type people and other scenes made up of guys who call each other faggot but I don't think that's specifically new or what we're talking about really

in this way it's sort of different from wine, because when you open a bottle of wine, hate speech doesn't come pouring out. ever.

True enough, and I do understand and appreciate the distinction between actual lyrical content versus egregious beliefs and behaviors of artists, but there are a lot of ugly things said on that Tyler record, for instance, as well as probably hundreds of albums on the shelves. I'm equally as uncomfortable thinking that stuff is being filtered out because of unsavory lyrical content, to be honest.

(Also, Ian, sorry you're feeling like you're being trolled; I hope I'm not contributing to that, I'm just enjoying this discussion a lot. I work closely with wine shops and so the fact that an independent store is not just "a place to buy stuff" and is the sum/result of a lot of choices (ethical, aesthetic, commercial, etc, etc), debates, and concessions is always at the front of my mind, and it's cool to think and discuss that stuff in the context of record stores. I'm also hung over!)

I ended up voting for "I've never been able to wrap my head around selling merch." because dude is participating in a pitchfork article so clearly self-promotion and market share aren't exactly foreign concepts to this guy.

John Maus is basically a Washington Outsider.

Dude clearly has issues

Nah, he's just real good at playing the indie rock attention game.

Fun interview! Dude talks mile a minute but I like it!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:49 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

maybe you and I have p differing experiences here but it seems to me that in the 90s, as now, Burzum was more or less the singular exception to this because of various justifying getout clauses (and possibly the unspoken one, that people actually want to buy his records)

― 'what's puzzling you' is the name of my dog (DJ Mencap), Friday, August 5, 2011 11:37 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i grew up in the suburbs in the 90s where no one was cool enough to listen to burzum yet, so idk.

xpost -- And I stand by that!

RITES 4 GAYZ O YEH

I mean, I can't believe this guy is singing such blatant cop-hate.

pow pow pow pow pow

hey i found the world's biggest John Maus stan

https://twitter.com/#!/KeepYourReceipt

i have the suspicion that person is from minnesota

she has tweeted the mountain goats, the fleet foxes, uh, aziz ansari and... martin zellar

srsly is this a joke?

KeepYourReceipt Keep Your Receipt
@MrHoratioSanz Not that he's playing Chicago, but have you listened to John Maus yet? Shit is hot!!
30 Jul

KeepYourReceipt Keep Your Receipt
@marcellocarlin Fuck off, John Maus is great.
26 Jul

woah harsh vibes directed toward ilxors

Horatio sanz is an ilxor??

IN DEFENCE OF JOHN MAUS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v19a5cqNxkM

Because his new album still unfuckwithably rules, regardless of all this shit.

Because his new album still unfuckwithably rules, regardless of all this shit.

the world's first Mad Magazine fold-in post

lol at ^^^

also lol at this somehow becoming another burzum thread

burzum is the godwins law for music geeks arguing on the internet

is now my goal to get varg to do a pfork guest list

"my ringtone is a norwegian prison guard telling me my mom's on the phone"

i made some kind of comment a few months ago about how burzum exists solely to be referenced on a thousand ILM threads about musicians with offensive views, and kinda got shouted down with a bunch of "well he IS a unique case because blah blah blah"

maybe maus will start burning down record stores

I would like it if someone took a picture of a Maus holding a cat and photoshopped it so he was holding some sort of spiked LRPG cudgel.

is now my goal to get varg to do a pfork guest list

A++ would read

not hearing the john maus ad :(

lol martin zellar and john maus should do a chilly new wave version of "i wanna drive the zamboni"

New album is so good. Rights for Gays is a totally fun jam. Much better songs than Ariel Pink. Great show too.

Who cares about stupid interviews.

i sang rights for gays so much at work that everybody was singing it on friday.

rights for gays.

oh yeah.

:)

plax otm

getting fucking pissed i'm not hearing his ad when i use spotify anymore