"Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records..." - A thread for Raime, Chasing Voices, Old Apparatus etc.

http://soundcloud.com/pdis_inpartmaint/mika-vainio-life-it-eats-you

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I'm liking the Mika Vainio; a bit of a headfuck. I found myself laughing during parts of it, which is always a sign that some interesting buttons are being pressed. God, I'm gonna keep beating this Kangding Ray horse, too. This track is just so gorgeous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B4Qg63ONgo

i get what your saying about giggling during the mika vainio record, its so camply dark at times, much like the new prurient. first time i stuck it on i cranked it up on the first track thinking it was just mastered low but when that first sustained bass and cymbal tone hit a couple of minutes in i burst out laughing in shock

It's a pleasant laughter, kind of an acknowledgement that you're surprised how well the music does what it's attempting to do, in my experience.

As much as I like their first record, I really cannot get into this new Emptyset album. All those gaps in the rhythms never let the tracks pick up an iota of steam or momentum, despite the programming being so clearly tied to the grid (emphasized more so by the "surprising" placement of some of the accents and hits). Some feel like they're starting to schaffel, some feel like they want to start to live and breathe, but the tracks almost uniformly sound stillborn all the way through. Austerity for its own sake shouldn't be confused with the restraint of successful minimalism, and this record smacks to me of a self-conscious effort to be somehow "brutal" but without the requisite roughness or intensity of the sonics to match. Leaves me cold, and not in a good way.

Austerity for its own sake shouldn't be confused with the restraint of successful minimalism

This is well put, but I disagree with your premise in this case. I think this is a bold, spooky album, with all the roughness and intensity of a 'brutal' album, albeit a self conscious one. This thing is relentless.

I like this album, but I admittedly my exposure to their work has been light listening, followed by a live performance, the second album, then the first.

sorry mika, you lost me. and i'm with clarke b on the new emptyset.

regis still fucking killing it, though

http://soundcloud.com/blackest-ever-black/regis-blood-witness-short-clip

bit of a muslimgauze vibe to that

The Month in Electronic Music: Knackered House... http://thequietus.com/articles/06777-hyperspecific-03-electronic-music-review

Andy Stott profile in the new Wire

I actually have that open in my other browser tab but I haven't had time to read it all!

The Haxan Cloak's Observatory EP deserves a mention in here: http://bit.ly/nZwVd7

still scratching my head about how this is some kind of new innovation, genre or micro-genre even

though i hope they actually do call this 'knackered house'--i'm 2x more interested with the name

Ekoplekz has a new album on the way for Punch Drunk and it's well nice. Its in a more digestable size then the epic double tape 33 track album on Mordant Music too. Clips: http://punchdrunkmusic.com/products-page/featured-products/ekoplekz-intrusive-incidentalz-vol-1-lp-punch-drunk-pre-order/

The new Mika Vainio album reminds me, oddly, of Mammal's "Lonesome Drifter."

That's a weird comparison. I'll have to hear that Mammal record. I only have Fog Walkers and it's sort of gabba-style noise.

Is there really nowhere to buy Raime's 'Retread' 12" or that Chasing Voices 12"? Been on backorder at Boomkat and Forced Exposure for months, and it's not even on eBay (my usual last resort when I'm fiending to own physical product). Bummer.

Just bought the Tropic of Cancer and new Regis 12"s but have yet to listen.

The Chasing Voices twelves are here: http://bit.ly/f7lgFw

And Raime here: http://bit.ly/o0F0wb

Thanks! Had no idea discogs was a site that actually sold records. That Raime 12" is still a bit steep for me ($40+ not including shipping: not for a 12", not today), but I think I'll buy one of those Chasing Voices 12"s. Thanks again

No problem. I love Discogs Marketplace.

It might be worth you emailing this shop: http://www.resident-music.com

They had multiple copies of the Raime EP for £7.99 when I was last in there.

Actually, here you go... http://bit.ly/pEU8V3

Still worth mailing Resident though, as the copies there were the first pressing, with sleeves.

The guy selling it on Discogs is a chancer, I clicked through to the sales history and the stamped repress is worth £13 at most. The first pressing goes for around £25.

first thing i thought of is the aybee cassette ancient tones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzASdm7R4Y

okay, thanks thread, i love techno again.

yeah, same. I started reading this yesterday and have already spent about $35 on this stuff.

oh i'm being a worthless sponge off the bounty of the internet for now, but when my next paycheck comes in, it's over.

I went looking for that Aybee cassette on the interwebs and in three pages of Google was only able to turn up rapidshare and blogs offering illegal downloads (and a few sites that had links to 'buy cassette' that went to nowhere at all)

yeah some of this stuff seems easier to download illegally, sadly. beatport has Old Apparatus, bunch of Ekoplekz, and Raime, which you can download in .wav format.

I may resolve pretty soon to just quit downloading techno altogether. This kinda stuff sounds so much better on wax (or, err, cassette)

I need a spotify playlist of this genre.

re: the Haxan Cloak's Observatory EP: the title track has been on repeat for the past few days... soooo making my life right now.

He has an album out now too

yeah, i'm getting a check later today. once that clears, it's on.

Seen quite a few of these guys live, mostly awesome, though I somehow failed to realise that there is Haxan Cloak stuff actually available on physical format. D'oh.

it's funny that my friend Bob's stuff has been reworked by Rrose. it seems so...unlikely a pairing when i think about Bob, but then i listen to the original Motormouth recordings and it makes perfect sense....

a little more dark dubstep or whatever, but it occurred to me that Sleeper fall into this with some tunes, maybe?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIdqt8ORfgQ

Seen quite a few of these guys live, mostly awesome, though I somehow failed to realise that there is Haxan Cloak stuff actually available on physical format. D'oh.

I keep picking it up and putting it down again in Resident. Any good? Review I saw a while back was comparing it to Ben Frost.

'it' = the album

speaking of the new prurient, i really like its campiness— its kind of a new height of noise camp, imo.

I keep picking it up and putting it down again in Resident. Any good? Review I saw a while back was comparing it to Ben Frost.

― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Saturday, September 3, 2011

The album and 12" are both excellent but quite different from each other. The Ben Frost reference can be heard on the album for sure, but the 12" sort of stands alone.

Not as good as Ben Frost

interview + mix of blackest ever black label dude

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1401

digging this guys schtick

"Schtick" is a fitting term for how he comes across in that interview, although I did enjoy it and get some good chuckles from it. His views are so well-articulated and thought-through that they read as scripted, and for a label that seems to want to offer a level of darkness and intensity they feel most contemporary dance music doesn't deliver, that surprised me.

Also, as much as I'm digging a lot of music discussed on this thread (especially Regis, at the moment), does it feel to anyone else, I don't know, a bit obvious? There's a certain hamfistedness with goth (in all its forms) that tends to prevent me from truly engaging with it, and much of this stuff just oozes hamfistedness. To be fair, though, I'm probably not his ideal fan; as he so charmingly writes: "Already I can see that more and more halfwits and knuckle-draggers are being drawn to Blackest Ever Black, but alas you can't choose who buys your records and hey, it's meat in the room." (We're all just fuckin' MEAT, man.)

(And do you ever feel like people who attack Mr. Conservative Dancefan Strawman with the most vigor are actually afraid deep-down that they might be one themselves?)

actually happened to be listening to the regis ep right now. it fukken kills.

I'm afraid I might be part of his well-defined target market. I would advice him to stop doing interviews.

Clarke B., I'm sort of confused by you saying that ALL GOTH MUSIC IS LACKING DEXTERITY. Actually, not really confused, but more, "What the fuck is this guy on about?"

It's just a really shitty generalization. And yes, I am a bit of a 'goth,' in appearance and in musical taste, but a lot of what I think you might refer to as hamfistedness is just the costumery and camp affect of a lot of what some might call goth music. You are either into that sort of camp quality for whatever reasons, or you're just not. But don't fuck with goth shit, I will haunt your fucking soul.

I realize in retrospect that I didn't make it clear, but I wasn't referring to the music or the execution of the music when I said goth was hamfisted, and I think "hamfisted" is actually not really the correct word for what I was trying to say. (And it's not as if my collection doesn't contain quite a helping of stuff that could comfortably fit under a goth umbrella...) I meant that there are certain aspects of goth--what you described as "costumery and camp affect" included--that are hard for me to relate to. In any case, I didn't mean for my post to be an anti-goth screed, and I'll regroup and try to pinpoint more precisely why that interview irritated me.

the interview mostly made me laugh at home. so serious! I like the stuff I've heard from his label (tho found his RA "mix" boring), but it's hilarious to hear a dance label guy who writes for FACT disdainfully refer to clubbers as 'meat'. I like to imagine he looks like this:

http://deskofbrian.com/wp-content/uploads/stephen_dorff_blade_vampire.jpg

ugh... "home" = him (wtf)

I wish the stuff was campier, really