Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

'we must become the pitiless censors of our opinions about record stores'

HAHAHAHA

Crucial sentences about "Yakety Sax" sadly not included in poll

cuz yakety sax stuff was otm

that maus is pretty adorable

tbh john maus should join the military and perhaps have some sense bullied into him.

then he can feel good about what he's doing and not have to talk about books.

did ppl see the video on p4k that's like his live show with clips of him talking mixed in?

i'm not going to speculate on if he's joking/if he's clueless/etc. but whatever the case he doesn't really seem like a cool dude imo.

ffs the fact that he's a philosophy professor kind of makes sense--you'd have to have a special sort of disconnection from the everyday world to spout the kind of nonsense he's keen on.

This was a meta-interview IMHO, and I'm glad it's riling people up.

― Clarke B., Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:27 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I have def said things like this in the past about people. But there's no way some trend-hopping dipshit who made his name ripping off ARIEL FUCKING PINK is smart enough to pull media shenanigans like that. More like "I've never done an interview in my life so I have no idea that i sound like a pompous windbag."

Traditionally before we made our artists heroes they have a few years to do zine interviews and local things and fuck up and learn what not to say and how not to say it. But THIS is what happens when the accelerated blog culture forces us to play firsties firsties firsties all the time, and thus pull some dysfunctional social retard from obscurity and shove a microphone in his face and tweetblast his moron dribblings to 1,000,000 twitter followers. It's not cute or funny, but sad.

honestly i wish i could ever clown you as hard as you clown yourself, day after day

and ilx's lone Altered Zones stan peeps up

Yeah, I feel like I personally really can't tell if it was super-calculated or super-naive, but still... It's nice to see something that doesn't just flow along like you expect it to.

Traditionally before we made our artists heroes they have a few years to do zine interviews and local things and fuck up and learn what not to say and how not to say it.

And I'd wager that that's one reason why people got excited about zines and smaller media back in the day--because people were allowed to fuck up, allowed not to be pros, allowed to say "the wrong thing" and "expose" themselves. It's not as if I don't understand where the hostility toward Maus is coming from, but I can't exactly say it makes me comfortable.

altered zones.... damn... hits p hard...

whiney cmon i dont get how this shit turns you into some like 'communist president' blog commentating tea party retard where you seem incapable of understanding basic facts or the pov of anyone who isnt you but its just kinda... nagl? i mean a) who cares and b) srsly who cares. hes obv trolling & if hes not than... its still p lol tbh.

He's just a dumbass is all

public apology via twitter full of double-talk and naivete re: the response to the interview. last sentence revels in self-loathing.

wait, what's wrong with Altered Zones and ARIEL FUCKING PINK?

alterzoned zones: lol chillwave. ariel fucking pink: rancid foie gras

I thought whiney was the dude who is super into chillwave!?

oh wait, nm he's the guy with the trucker hat huh? my bad

Traditionally before we made our artists heroes they have a few years to do zine interviews and local things and fuck up and learn what not to say and how not to say it. But THIS is what happens when the accelerated blog culture forces us to play firsties firsties firsties all the time, and thus pull some dysfunctional social retard from obscurity and shove a microphone in his face and tweetblast his moron dribblings to 1,000,000 twitter followers. It's not cute or funny, but sad.

i prefer this john maus ridiculousness a thousand times over manicured, professional, acc-to-script interviews. i already have baseball interviews for that. rather read something that actually reflects the artist's personality than some boring shit that conceals it.

I wish everyone who is (rightfully) upset about my Pitchfork �guest list� would grant me the benefit of the doubt, but I suppose that is too much to ask seeing as how I did come off so incredibly mean. I can�t understand why anyone would think I was referring to the small DIY record shops of the world (the only type that would carry my records in the first place, and many of which I have played in) and not the Megastores of the world, but I guess I didn�t make that clear enough. For whatever it is worth now, the only reason I didn�t make that clear enough was because I foolishly supposed anyone reading the �guest list� would grant that I was referring to the latter and not the former. I mean, what could anyone possibly have against the small DIY record stores of the world (unless they worked for one of the big ones)? If anything, by saying �I�m glad to see [big] record stores closing down� I imagined I was speaking on behalf of small DIY record stores everywhere! What I�d ask anyone who is (rightfully) upset to remember is that the �guest list� was torn unrecognizably from its context as a telephone call. The interviewer asked me what my favorite record store was, and I jokingly responded �torrents.com� or something like that, laughing about how wonderful it is that music and movies are becoming easier and easier to get for free. I then explained to him that where I grew up we had none of these little DIY type stores but only the big chains, and that I once worked in a Megastore and it was very unpleasant. Finally, I began to go on about the experience, which I cannot imagine I am alone in having, of being looked up-and-down by a snobby clerk when purchasing a record, or of not having enough money to get all the records one wants. I thought all of this would get laughs of identification, not accusations of my wanting small record store owners to die penniless! (Why would anyone, especially a musician, want this?) I hope those little store owners would grant me that I wasn�t talking about them. But perhaps the damage is done. Finally, I just want anyone who is (rightfully) upset to know, that whenever I get up on the �platforms� offered in interviews and so on, I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus. Even if it is a little too naive or too utopian of me, I don�t see what is wrong with trying imagine a world where we share everything with each other for free. I always joke with the promoters and the labels about the contradictions involved in doing this from our standpoint, and I guess I just thought I could do it with the record stores as well. If what I said came across as anything other than this desire then I can only assure you that that was not my intent. The fact that anyone would react to anything I say is still a novelty to me, and I�m afraid I�ve made a terrible use of that novelty.

aw

this is disingenuous bullshit unless you have frequently been "looked up and down" by the "snobby clerk" at uh, best buy or fye.

xpost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGR65RWwzg8

♪♫ i don't know who u r, but i, i'm w/ u ♪♫

CAD: they are two different sentences. i think you are being a bit disingenuous.

i prefer this john maus ridiculousness a thousand times over manicured, professional, acc-to-script interviews. i already have baseball interviews for that. rather read something that actually reflects the artist's personality than some boring shit that conceals it.

There are plenty of compelling interview to read, most of them just aren't given by indie rock musicians.

xp i'm not sure what you mean? i'm comparing what he was actually saying in the orig. interview with his assertion that he was actually talking about megastores (which uh are also not noted as great places to buy $20 lps, another thing he says in the interview).

i thought you were referring to the clarification he posted.

er, you posted it.

oh ok i get it.

I wish everyone who is (rightfully) upset about my Pitchfork �guest list�

2011.

guys it's all cool now, if you just imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus.

I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus
I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus
I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus
I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus
I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus
I always try to imagine a world emancipated from interested exchange and the extortion of surplus

lol xpost

His legs must ache from all of the backpedaling.

is it the hamstrings that it's supposedly good for?

Is that the most longwinded and convoluted "sorry that you were offended" ever, or what?

i like what he said about south parc

"I did not intend that to be a factual statement"

hope john maus is taking this lesson in saying ridiculous things to a huge audience to heart.

maybe he will post here.

he did for a while, as 'dave cool'

I don't know who this artist is (but I couldn't resist the thread title so) but this guy is not a philosophy professor; at best he's a philosophy grad student, at least that's what his academia.edu page says.

gotta defend the honor of the profession

^snob

help me here, is he saying that he was getting 'tude from the clerks at megastores and not independent record stores (i.e. Kim's, etc)

http://mechanisticmoth.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/maus-art-spiegelma-el-lazo-se-estrecha.gif

that is now what he is claiming yes. tbh if i were a clerk at a record store (which i am) i would probably give tude to this douchetard as well.xp

John Maus: not even cool enough to hang with the dudes at Sam Goody

this guy behaved foolishly.

oh my god, so sad--someone get "sandman" to usher this clown offstage

Hahaha

xp neither does Maus

BOOM!

Still haven't entirely unravelled my initial misconception that this fellow was the long-lost third (and now decidely late) walker brother, returned to critical attention :(

When I meet other Ariel Pink fans, I feel like we understand each other, until I discover they also like John Maus, and then I wonder what it is they like about Ariel Pink, because the two are not even in the same ballpark.

Has anyone seen Exit Through the Gift Shop? I think of Ariel Pink as Banksy, and John Maus as Mr. Brainwash.

Now, if John Maus turns out to be an elaborate hoax, a Kaufmann-esque artistic statement created by Ariel Pink himself, then I would be the first to applaud both of them. I still wouldn't listen to John Maus' music, though...

Oh, okay.

Was it okay to like Maus when he was playing keyboards for Ariel?

Whatever scam they are running, it's getting both of them lots of alt pussy.

aka fleshlights

pretty much agree w/ public radio's post

valuable new posters

note: it is possible to like things that "are not even in the same ballpark." some people manage to like a great many different things. god knows why, but they do.

also: my whole world's coming apart is a good song. not too concerned abt whether banksy or mr brainwash gets to claim credit.

i think the poster is referring to "the ballpark of quality"

no such thing

which one is the cool one? that is the one i like

Yeah this is excellent. If he keeps this balance of clear but lo-fi his fingerprint will stay on the material. It's like a more sophisticated weathered sound. Well done.

The keyboardist and the drummer from Lilys are in the Haunted Grafitti now? Wow.

By the way I've been trying to get into John Maus for the last two days. Talk about a poor man's Ariel Pink. It's like he's trying to copy every aspect of Ariel Pink and just blowing it. That's got to be a bummer to shoot for crappy and fail.

― PublicRadio, Sunday, 21 December 2008 09:34 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's so much bad music being made right now, who has time to hate on any one particular artist?

http://guerrillagraphix.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/9090371.jpg

imagine the inner life of an ilx troll in 2012

I agree with contenderizer, though, that "My Whole World's Coming Apart" is a good song. I like "Navy Seals", too.

If you split the difference between Ariel Pink and John Maus, you get Part Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhia_RlurkI

hi i'm john maus, please listen to my new album on spotify

― markers, Wednesday, August 3, 2011 6:52 PM

he has a new album?

I still listen to We Must Become on a fairly regular basis.

i sang rights for gays so much at work that everybody was singing it on friday.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rights for gays.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh yeah.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:40 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:)

― lacanthrope (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 7 August 2011 20:49 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

plax otm

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 7 August 2011 21:05 (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

read the whole thread and this is the only place it got good

'It Takes Time' is kind of the perfect pop song

i need to track down everything about it (and have not been following ilx threads yesterday) but i'm seeing reports that this guy was involved at the capitol insurrection yesterday

worthless vhs idiot lmao

ariel pink was also there apparently. same ballpark lol

When I meet other Ariel Pink fans, I feel like we understand each other, until I discover they also like John Maus, and then I wonder what it is they like about Ariel Pink, because the two are not even in the same ballpark.

Has anyone seen Exit Through the Gift Shop? I think of Ariel Pink as Banksy, and John Maus as Mr. Brainwash.

Now, if John Maus turns out to be an elaborate hoax, a Kaufmann-esque artistic statement created by Ariel Pink himself, then I would be the first to applaud both of them. I still wouldn't listen to John Maus' music, though...

― PublicRadio, Thursday, April 12, 2012 4:14 PM (eight years ago) bookmarkflaglink

fyi there's talk on the AP thread

ok thx!