"Can I say you're my girlfriend on Facebook?"

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i could live with bad design but the worst thing about myspace was music exploding on you when you didn't want it.

Roz, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:50 (twelve years ago) link

oh yeah, bands embedding their videos in windows media somewhere down the page which then played automatically at the same time you're trying to listen to the tracks in the audio player. stupid.

blueski, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:52 (twelve years ago) link

i.e. bad design

blueski, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:53 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i really meant bad design as in horizontally-scrolling pages, unreadable fonts, shitty backgrounds etc but that works too.

Roz, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

^ agree with all the above. i ended up kind of liking the bad design (again kind of reminded me of makeoutclub) though, all the same, it feels like it should have bad design

696, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:59 (twelve years ago) link

i already have a myspazz and i was avoiding facebook, but i got conned into joining by the lure of being able to see photos of a certain friend. but that's the whole problem with it - you can't go perving at anyone's profile unless you're their friend. and apart from my best friend who lives in the states, and an old and vague acquaintance in the uk, my only other facebook buddies are my freakin' workmates (which is pretty lame).

i like myspace. mostly because of a conversation i had on another book forum about a crazy white supremacist who stalked me there, which then led to becoming myspazz friends with someone from that forum, which then led to bestfriendship and possible true love. and another good friend of mine is someone i met on myspazz, and he lives in my city.

and the myspazz crazies who send creepy messages make for good stories at the pub. i had one guy ask me to be his mistress, because he wanted to perform errands and bring gifts to a superior woman.

Rubyred, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:01 (twelve years ago) link

i dunno what makeoutclub is.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:02 (twelve years ago) link

making out is great though.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

in terms of how i use it, myspace is barely any different from facebook, except a) more people on facebook b) facebook LOOKS BETTER and also WORKS most of the time - to defend myspazz on these grounds is ridiculous c) less as in no lame bands/whores trying to friend you, i don't understand what ways myspazz could possibly be considered superior except through force of habit

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:04 (twelve years ago) link

facebook reminds me of school and it has my workmates on it

696, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:05 (twelve years ago) link

i don't really have massive issues with either of those

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

i like that you can make myspace pages look all fucked up and shit with pictures.

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:14 (twelve years ago) link

when i'm bored at work i jazz up my 'spazz page... i mean, it's hardly brain surgery, it's just a bit of a piss. one of the best things about it is how many great artists i've discovered. because my profile is quite arts-centred, and i have a ton of pictures up, it seems to attract a lot of people with similar tastes, which then leads to discovering new artists who have profiles. i avoiding putting any personal pics, or pics of myself, up for a long time, but then they got the new photo album set-up, which allows you to block anyone but friends from viewing them.

myspace and facebook seem to have very different motives - fb is more for connecting with people you actually know (or used to know) while the 'spazz is more for meeting new people.

Rubyred, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:42 (twelve years ago) link

i already have a myspazz and i was avoiding facebook, but i got conned into joining by the lure of being able to see photos of a certain friend. but that's the whole problem with it - you can't go perving at anyone's profile unless you're their friend.

... unless you're in the same network as them and they have their profile open to people from their network. which a lot of college students do, although I don't know about other users.

bernard snowy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:19 (twelve years ago) link

Facebook is much better than MySpace for all of the design reasons just mentioned, but unless you're a student, there are still way more people on MySpace. When I joined a year ago, I had to add my 23-year-old gf's roommates just to look like I knew people. This does seem to be slowly changing, though.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:23 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck'em both. Maybe FB because I'm a university dropout so i can't get in. Myspace is just. Urrgh (and not only designwise, also the way you have to interact).

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a bit worried that FB is going to become more and more like myspace -- but even if it does at least it (probably) won't have the disgusting level of customization that leads people to overlay translucent graphics and paste in lots of oversized pictures/text and render their profile completely unreadable

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

I think anyone can join FB, nath. Not just uni kids. It's my first day there .... would you like to be my friend??

C J, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

pseudonyms on facebook = lame.

Lex, I don't like the ideas of strangers or near-strangers knowing too many personal details about me. With a real name, a school, etc. it could be too easy to track me down IRL. The world's a strange place these days.

myspace feels a tiny bit like makeoutclub or lipstickandcigarettes now

You mean it feels like Friendster did when MySpace exploded?

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:28 (twelve years ago) link

CJ, sorry, I am not that interested in FB. Just doesn't seem to appeal to me. Another social circle. Nah. I liked Friendster, that was okay,but the rest can go eat dick shit.

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:29 (twelve years ago) link

Dick shit? STRIKE THROUGH, you moron.

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:30 (twelve years ago) link

dick shit sounds unbelievably foul

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:32 (twelve years ago) link

OMG the synchronicity: someone just invited me on FB. I'll probably give in. I'm a total wimp. ;-)

Yes, Sam, I know. I tried to avoid that fuck or suck thread as well but to no avail. :-)

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:33 (twelve years ago) link

Lex, I don't like the ideas of strangers or near-strangers knowing too many personal details about me. With a real name, a school, etc. it could be too easy to track me down IRL. The world's a strange place these days.

i understand this but you don't have to put your school in, i haven't (though i have joined my school's group), and if you're rigorous with the privacy settings all that strangers can actually see is your name and your picture (and there are lots of profile pictures which don't give any clues as to what the person actually looks like...)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

What have I done. I already regret it.

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:40 (twelve years ago) link

At this point the school association is the only benefit I see! I mean I can associate with ILX0Rs here and on Flickr so it's not like I need another place to link up with you weirdos. ;)

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:42 (twelve years ago) link

You mean it feels like Friendster did when MySpace exploded?

not really, friendsters design was kind of sober, myspace more like moc etc

696, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

I meant more in terms of use. I remember it took MySpace a while to get going but when it did Friendster was abandoned. Obv. that's not happened to MySpace yet but it could be coming.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

Myspace does lose what remains of its appeal pretty fast once you've got a few friends on Fcbk.

I'm mostly just glad to not be bombarded with terrible bands and Cool Videos uploaded by mongs.

Michael Philip Philip Philip philip Annoyman, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

you can block all requests from bands etc. and you can also disable the automatic music player.

Rubyred, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

I have done this before but for someone reason this often doesn't stick.

Whatever, I've finally ditched MySpace. It all became too junior high. lame.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:21 (twelve years ago) link

I have about twice as many Facebook friends than Myspace friends in a tiny portion of the time, there must be something about it that appeals to people who aren't anywhere else on the Internet. Perhaps its the privacy thing.

I still get a bit weirded out at having so many FB friends on one page on the internet, when previously I was used to having them separated into carefully delineated groups for different periods of my life.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:25 (twelve years ago) link

Why did Myspace beat out Friendster? Was there really that much difference between the two? Was Myspace just a copycat that struck it lucky or is there some bigger reason?

Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

MySpace had more features than Friendster. Blogging, etc.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ya - I've noticed some odd worlds colliding within my friends on FB. may or may not be a good thing.

xpost

The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

Matt has loads of hot girls on his facebook friends list.

blueski, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:40 (twelve years ago) link

the last few times i've logged into myspazz i've got the "sorry! unexpected error!" message - how can you love a site which fundamentally doesn't work, when a functional alternative which does exactly the same thing is available?

all my friends in one place = convenient. though it is apparently weird to want all your friends to be friends with all your other friends.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

MySpace didn't really blow up until bands started using it but in the six months before that I think it did attract people BECAUSE it was messier/noisier than Friendster which was somewhat sober as gareth says and this is also true of facebook - the pendulum swings back.

blueski, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:41 (twelve years ago) link

though it is apparently weird to want all your friends to be friends with all your other friends.

idealistic yo

blueski, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Lots of bosses are now turning up on Facebook, which has me checking out the tightness of that limited profile thing

stet, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

i always make sure i have a cool boss who wouldn't take umbrage with anything i write on there.

blueski, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

i said this already but im reposting it--we had a lot of these myspace vs. facebook discussions upthread:

i dont like the idea of facebook getting all democratized and ugly like myspace (and having a ton of "entities" like companies/bands have their own profiles instead of just "groups").

keep it clean and efficient and fascist--and well-designed--and there wont be a problem.

max, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah all the new companies and applications are a bit much. Tho I like having my last.fm on FB.

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

xpost democratized -> idiots like me (uni dropouts) being accepted?

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:52 (twelve years ago) link

CAn bands do pages now?

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

I hope not. I don't want to be a part of another MySpace.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:54 (twelve years ago) link

i hope not

(they can do groups)

xp

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

it's not so much the democratization/opening of FB to non-students as the corporate presence, for me anyway. I mean, over time FB would be open to more non-students than students anyway, as more and more original 'book members graduate

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

i marvel at the stupidity of anyone who puts anything on their facebook/myspazz page which they wouldn't want their boss to see!

(or pity them if their boss takes serious umbrage to pictures of their employees drunk in their spare time)

lex pretend, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

I just took a look around to see if I could find any other people who I knew from my major. Besides feeling pangs everytime I saw someone listing their class as '10 or '11 (mine is '96) I was amazed at how many listed their dorm and ROOM NUMBER as their residence. I could see this without even being their friend. Madness.

Ms Misery, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 14:58 (twelve years ago) link


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