ILX Best Films of the 1970s

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Fuck, I forgot Superfly.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm really not convinced too many ppl here are idiots. I just wish you were less incurious about the breadth of an art form before you make retrospective lists. e.g., I find some of kranz's picks overrated or even dreadful, but at least he's seen a lot.

wk, which "Weekend"? cuz the Godard film is '67.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Who's incurious? Not having seen things =/= not wanting to see them, it just means you haven't seen it yet. And not having something on a ballot also =/= not having seen it. It's possible to see an awful lot of movies and still think, e.g., that Star Wars deserves a place on a 1970s film poll. (You can make an equally good case that Star Wars is terrible; but then, you can also make a case that Bresson is terrible. I wouldn't agree with either of those positions, but I could respect people who did.) (And I left off the only 1970s Bresson I've seen -- Lancelot -- because I found it ponderous. Which at least is something you can't say about Star Wars. Or I suppose you could. But I wouldn't.)

Point being, you're making an awful lot of assumptions about people's range of curiosity and exposure based on what they put on a message-board film-poll ballot. While refusing, of course, to submit your own list for similar assessment (admiration or derision). I'd personally like to see your list, because there are probably things on it I'd like to see. Your mention of Sembene has already prompted me to add Xala to my Netflix queue. If you're actually enthusiastic about the art form rather than scoring some kind of imagined intellectual superiority points, you've got an audience here of people interested in movies who'd probably like to hear your recommendations. But that doesn't seem to be your aim. Being condescending about other people's taste and/or level of expertise is cheap and easy.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

*applause*

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Silent Running
Soylent Green

jel -- (jel), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Then it doesn't make sense to vote.

ONCE AGAIN THIS IS NOT THE FUCKING "SIGHT AND SOUND" POLL. WE'RE JUST PEOPLE ON A MESSAGE BOARD WHO LIKE MOVIES AND WANT TO SEE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE'S FAVORITE MOVIES ARE, TOO.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 August 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link


Gyp, I still don't think I'm being condescending. Since I started going to movies semi-regularly in the mid '70s, perhaps I'm just more protective of the sublime and innovative things that were done in that decade. And yes, I know ppl under 30 or 35 haven't had that much time to see older films, but it IS easier now than when Teenage Morbius set the alarm clock so he could watch "Dr Strangelove" or "Red Dust" at 2am.

And just for damage control, I voted.
(on any given day I could replace 8 or 10 of these 20)


(1) Chinatown (Polanski)
(2) The Mirror (Tarkovsky)
(3) Barry Lyndon (Kubrick)
(4) Aguirre, the Wrath of God (Herzog)
(5) Fox and His Friends (Fassbinder)
(6) The Magic Flute (Bergman)
(7) Nashville (Altman)
(8) Xala (Sembene)
(9) Ali: Fear Eats the Soul (Fassbinder)
(10) The Long Goodbye (Altman)
(11) Amarcord (Fellini)
(12) Tristana (Bunuel)
(13) The Godfather Part II (Coppola)
(14) Annie Hall (Allen)
(15) Female Trouble (Waters)
(16) Cabaret (Fosse)
(17) In a Year of 13 Moons (Fassbinder)
(18) Five Easy Pieces (Rafelson)
(19) Ulzana's Raid (Aldrich)
(20) Two-Lane Blacktop (Hellman)


And Paunchy, you need to be sitting on those hands. After you wash them.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

so ballots are in right? here was mine at the time, only switch #3 cuz 'gates of heaven' is apparently an 80s flick and omgwtf i forgot chinatown.

1. f for fake (welles)
2. the long goodbye (altman)
3. gates of heaven (morris)
4. news from home (akerman)
5. female trouble (waters)
6. aguirre: the wrath of god (herzog)
7. in a year of 13 moons (fassbinder)
8. texas chainsaw massacre (hooper)
9. that obscure object of desire (bunuel)
10. claire's knee (rohmer)
11. the last detail (ashby)
12. up! (meyer)
13. the devil, probably (bresson)
14. nashville (altman)
15. the conformist (bertolucci)
16. in the realm of the senses (oshima)
17. pink flamingos (waters)
18. dawn of the dead (romero)
19. shampoo (ashby)
20. animal house (landis)

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link

And here's my list, while we're all showing our hand.

1. Last Tango In Paris
2. A Woman Under the Influence
3. Aguirre: The Wrath of God
4. Network
5. Manhattan
6. McCabe and Mrs. Miller
7. Cries and Whispers
8. Badlands
9. Day for Night
10. Jaws
11. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
12. Five Easy Pieces
13. The Last Detail
14. Alien
15. Patton
16. Annie Hall
17. The Godfather, part II
18. Taxi Driver
19. Mean Streets
20. Chinatown

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 22 August 2005 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link

wk, which "Weekend"? cuz the Godard film is '67.

Aw shit. Like I said, I took that big huge list posted upthread as the nominee list. Oops.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I put Slapshot and Bedknobs and Broomsticks

The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Aguirre is going to do well. Morbius some of your objections are valid but they seem to assume that people are able to spend more time on this than is actually the case. I like your list though. I feel like I've seen a ton of Fassbinder films and yet I've seen none of the three you nominated.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

OK Dr. M, that's a nice list. I appreciate it. Don't agree with all of it, naturally. I'm not nearly the fan of Chinatown or Nashville that others are, although the former would at least make my top 30. As would Fox and His Friends and Amarcord, probably.

Come to think of it, why isn't Little Big Man on more of these lists? What's the matter with you people?!?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I dunno. I have only the vaguest memory of it. Saw it on TV -- kind of a Saturday afternoon matinee movie. I never thought much of it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

As Arthur Penn said at a screening of Little Big Man, "Isn't it better than the remake, Dances with Wolves?"

I like the movie fine -- it probly works on me better than any other of AP's, including Bonnie & Clyde -- but there are sequences where the picaresque shtick works less well than others (the gay stay-at-home brave, Richard Mulligan as Custer). It's just not in serious contention for best 20 of the decade. Chief Dan George (in this and Josey W) is certainly one of the supporting actors of the '70s.

btw I spent maybe 15 minutes on my ballot. And am already rueing the absence of Maurice Pialat, "The Day of the Locust," etc.

haha, Bedknobs and Broomsticks is probably the first film I saw of all mentioned.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 August 2005 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, I just got home, and at 6pm CST, I am no longer accepting any more ballots. I will accept all the ones that came in the afternoon though. If I didn't received it via email, it will not be counted. I'm not going by lists posted in this threads. I will finish tabulating the results now, expect the reveal to start in a few days, in a new thread. Thank you all.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

yay jeff!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 22 August 2005 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Votes counted. It was closer, the top two are seperated by 1 vote.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 00:58 (eighteen years ago) link

When do we get to see the results?

walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

This weekend at the earliest, all the votes are counted, i'm just gathering comments (feel free to send me some) and writing the html for each entry, finding pics. Shouldn't take too long, I could knock it out if a few hours if I don't stop, but I'll allow myself a week.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I promise it will be light years faster than the 80s poll.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh crap, I just remembered this and I was going to submit a ballot right now, thinking there was a midnight deadline. Oh well. I didn't even have a clue as to what my list would look like, so yeah, whatever.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 02:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Should "Performance" actually be included? I know it was released in the 1970s, but it was made in 1968 or 9.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't check any of the dates, I was just going on what you guys thought. Anyway, Performance didn't place in the top 100.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"Performance" was released in 1970. "Raging Bull" was 'made' (ie principal photography) in '79, so I don't see what that has to do with anything. A movie doesn't exist til someone sees it.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Comcast fucked me for two days, so a small delay. I'm still planning for a weekendish reveal though.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 26 August 2005 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG, I can't believe I forgot to include Greaser's Palace in my list. Of course, I would have been the only person to vote for it anyway.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Results are going well. Revel will start today or tomorrow.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

You're expecting more joy and festivity than the results will actually get, I suspect.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 27 August 2005 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Probably so, I just don't want to drag this thing out.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

(that was a gag about your typo)

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

oh! I'm very slow and hung over.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

What does an ILXor think of Joe? I watched this a couple of days ago -- it certainly wasn't fun, and by the end of it I thought it was a bad movie, but it's stuck with me pretty well, and I think maybe it's a decent film without any sympathetic characters.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Man I've wanted to see that movie for so long. I was under the impression that the characters weren't meant to be unsympathetic tho?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i.e. isn't it a "fuck these lousy hippies" rant?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Nobody's cast in a very good light. Even big-eyed baby Susan Sarandon is a fairly whiny weakling with her boyfriend.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

twelve years pass...

My picks!.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 31 July 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

Cool, I've bought like five of those (which I have yet to see) in the past month, good to see my taste is in fact impeccable.

I don't think I will ever see what other people see in Suspiria, sadly.

Why does this relates to Yoda? (Old Lunch), Friday, 31 July 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link

88. Illustrious Corpses (Francesco Rosi)

OTM; I'm slightly disappointed cadaveri eccellenti didn't do as well as possession (1982)

oder doch?, Friday, 31 July 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

Maybe it's a measure of how hard it is to make a comedy that stays funny, but I note a distinct dominance of serious films in your list.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

it's OK, OL, Suspiria is giallos are shit

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

The Driver and Apocalypse Now are both pretty funny.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Giallo directors doing poliziotteschi are the best though.

And since Morbz is here, where is The Night Porter?

oder doch?, Friday, 31 July 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

ONE of Bunuel's '70s films? And it's not Tristana? Away with thee...

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 31 July 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link


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