John Maus

Just punching the "chillwave" button is a lazy excuse for poor execution

I'm sorry DL but just saying it is "chillwave" is a lazy excuse for being unable to explain why you dislike it. I mean, fair enough you don't like it, but John Maus = Chillwave? Seriously? No way.

doesn't this album fall more into the minimal wave revival stuff like xeno and oaklander way more than chillwave anyway?

OTM... Less po-facedly serious and industrial-ish than lots of the Wierd Records stuff, but there's echoes of Martial Canterel, etc.

Fair enough folks, I know I certainly haven't listened to it quite enough - these are very much initial reactions about both baths and jm - reactions compared to what I'm hearing a lot of right now. Tbf I need to sit down with this properly before passing sweeping judgements on what might be very good indeed.

I wouldn't call John Maus "chillwave" either, no way no how, but son of a gun, I'll be danged if I didn't include this album on an iTunes playlist of mine called - you guessed it - "chillwave"...alongside the likes of Ariel Pink, Toro y Moi, Washed Out, Ford & Lopatin, etc...I mean, sure, not all "chillwave", but they really seem to get along well...so, there's that.

You don't know how happy it makes me that the days of the record store are coming to an end. $20 for an LP? Do you remember going to the record store and not getting what you want because there was no other place to get it? Now we can get it all for free, and I think that's wonderful. There was always something really depressing to me about record stores and music equipment stores. There's something oppressive about them, like the guy who looks you up and down and looks at what you're buying. You're bound up in exchange with the snobby clerk. So I'm glad they all have little "closed" signs on their doors now.

Remind me to punch this clown in the throat if I ever see him

is that an interview quote?

p-fork interview here: http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/8003-john-maus/

i don't think he could have come off any worse if he'd tried...i have no interest in "chillwave", but even less-so having spent any time reading that brief interview.

FWIW, I wasn't saying he was necessarily chillwave, just his music is one of many that exhibit those purposefully muddy/lo-fi production jobs that kind of don't feel necessary.

*reminds If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport to punch John Maus in the throat if he ever sees him*

i knew ilm could be insufferable but lately this thread takes the cake

musician has opinion about record stores that incites esteemed ilxor If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport to violence, feebs hit wrists to chest every time the word "chillwave" is invoked because they are retarded.

stay classy Matt P

fuck you bitch

Matt P, go check out the "S/D: IDM" thread to feel warm about ILM again... I'm only mildly kidding; the discussion going on there is U&K.

Remind me to punch this clown in the throat if I ever see him

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 15:59 (1 hour ago)

dude's fuckin huge, I would train a bit first

imo just go to his live show, it's him punching himself in the throat over an over

lol Cal Arts

buzza

yeah that's a good thread. xp

sorry i called you a bitch jon. turns out im the one who needs to chillwave out.

buzza

Well, Yglesias is a fan. At least of the title.

so i am going to see him tonight

i have been led to expect *crazy things*

is this going to be like bauhaus + soul junk or what

also tropic of cancer is opening but they are not really my thing (death to false techno)

can we please mandate that the right John Maus thread is the one where Whiney calls him a "worthless VHS idiot"

i love this guy and think that thread is dumb.

and i know none of his backstory which seems to make people annoyed, cos i have a life.

hmm that's an odd slur coming from a guy that fucks w/ pre-biggie rap and dope 77-85 reggae

so you're telling me to expect a worthless vhs idiot

:-(

at least i didn't pay for these tix

whoops that was xpost to aero

i learned about three completely-new-to-me musicians today: frank ocean, twin shadow and john maus. i think i liked john maus' music the best.

i wonder if he'll do something stupid in honor of comic-con

i recommend keeping john maus in mind for christmas 2012, that album is burnt into my mind for christmas 2011. "believer" actually sounds like some hipster "last christmas" shit, amazing.

you know i think i like that type of stuff the least!

but i really like the muy dramatico tracks like "cop killer" and "don't worship the devil" and i like devo-type things like "navy seals".

i am hoping it will be more a.r.e. weapons and less twin shadow, is that a false hope?

that was sporadically awesome and he def punched himself a lot

What do you think of "rights for gays"?

there was some classic whiney g vitriol in that other thread, also pics of cute rodents

I still like the one john maus record I have I gotta say

he played rights for gays! it was awesome and my mormon friend was pumping the fist to it.

I used "mastering to VHS" to describe Maus itt, as a compliment, though.

Rereading that other thread I can't really say there's much distinction between Maus' "inside voice" and Whiney's, get Whiney talking about a nacho or about Canadian rap and he'll say some flaming things too

He punches himself during live performances?

Briefly saw him in Peckham last year for the Upset the Rhythm fest (Dan Deacon was playing upstairs, think No Age did the second day etc), his mic broke, lol it was like Barry from Eastenders in Extras in that he carried on not giving a fuck.

Ronan's right about 'Believer'.

The new rarities comp is pretty, pretty wonderful too.

people used to master to 1630 all the time actually

all he does live is punch himself and hit himself in the head w/ the mic, he's great, v tall

that was sporadically awesome and he def punched himself a lot

― the late great, Sunday, July 15, 2012 3:54 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Saw him live last week ... pretty awful/hilarious. Like, I understand if you're a press-play-&-karaoke-your-own-songs performer and feel the need to maybe compensate by "losing yr shit onstage" and "going bananananans" etc., but someone needs to sit him down for a bit and explain that his stage persona undercuts like 95% of his show and maybe consider toning down the pacing around / intense-hair-grabbing / GRRRR INTENSE stuff?

Sounds entertaining. But I think I'd rather just listen to his records.

i don't understand how him jumping around and being intense undercuts the performance when that is the performance?

i don't understand how him jumping around and being intense undercuts the performance when that is the performance?

If I'm parsing you correctly, it's because the "intensity" seems like so much of a put-on (ie, pre-meditated / disingenuous) that it was unintentionally funny, which almost never happens? Thrashing around on stage and looking like you've got bees in yr pants is a pretty standard performative pose; usually, as someone in the audience, you either buy in or watch w/o much interest in the physical performance. Out of the thousand different ways a singer can look intense onstage, he found some sweet-spot where he looked silly enough that I was perma-chuckling/cringing for the whole 30+ minutes. It probably didn't help that he was kind of running through the same four or five physical ticks throughout the whole show.

There was other stuff not to like -- same echo effect on vox, bad skip-track transitions -- but I thought his stage presence was irl lol. Then again I didn't spend any money on the show, so can't really complain that much.

This is coming from someone who likes his music fwiw.

i bought in pretty easily

i admit i did go outside during the last two because i felt like i had seen all of his poses by then but i also just wanted fresh air

i liked his unamplified screaming parts too because there