Year-End Critics' Polls '08

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I do need to track down the A. Hamilton

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost Comedy records count if they are funny.

nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Conchords much more on TV, but the record is well made, which apparently this year counts for a ton. (Hey, my favorite album is Ne-Yo, so I oughta know, right?)

I posted my top 100 tracks on my blog if anyone wants to look:
http://m-matos.blogspot.com/2008/12/fuck-it-ive-tweaked-it-long-enough-and.html

Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow Matos, maybe someday I'll hear like six of these

My biggest disappointment this year is not hearing more from Brazil; Gilberto Gil had 2 records out this year and CSS sure but I am just out of touch these days, my contacts down there have dried up (LOL optometry humor)

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Babe, Terror is a great Brazil 08 joint, d5: http://www.myspace.com/babeterror

nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

this not my cup of caipirinha, chris, but thanks. although we should probably keep our semi-beef alive so i can get tons of publicity for SCRAPPY LITTLE CAVE17.COM

i was hoping for albums from some of my fave rave indie brazilian people but they didnt happen yet, tudo bem

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

(like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again).

The Pfork list would make a lot more sense if the Raveonettes album took the place of Fleet Foxes. It's a fucking great record, my #1 for a few months early in the year, and I think the comparisons to Psychocandy are on target. I'd venture to say if Lust Lust Lust was released in 1985, and Psychocandy in 2008, then Lust would be the stone cold classic Psychocandy has instead become.

I love both albums, mind you.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd like to add my voice to the "Wale is boring" chorus.

usic concrète (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw him on MTV Jams today and it was pretty WTF.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Aw, man! Anthony Hamilton has a new one out? Is it great???

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

It is even better than Comin' From Where I'm From.

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.

To be honest... there are days I think Lust is better than Psychocandy, track for track.

ilxor, Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:20 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting. i think it's their weakest record. but i'll always prefer spectorish stuff to the marychainish stuff

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Jody Rosen in Slate

1. Girl Talk, Feed the Animals
2. Lil Wayne, Tha Carter III
3. Jamey Johnson, That Lonesome Song
4. Calle 13, Los De Atrás Vienen Conmigo
5. Portishead, Third
6. Sugarland, Love on the Inside
7. Benji Hughes, A Love Extreme
8. TV on the Radio, Dear Science
9. The Cool Kids, The Bake Sale
10. Ashton Shepherd, Sounds So Good

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/id/2206848/entry/2206850/

The Rosen album list plus his singles is part of a series of e-mails between he and Ann Powers and Robert Christgau on Slate

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Christgau at Slate (He also talked about the Franco compilation on NPR)

Albums

1. Franco: Francophonic
2. Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III (Deluxe Edition)
3. Drive-By Truckers: Brighter Than Creation's Dark
4. TV on the Radio: Dear Science
5. Coner Oberst: Coner Oberst
6. Randy Newman: Harps and Angels
7. Les Amazones de Guinee: Wamato
8. Hayes Carll: Trouble in Mind
9. The Roots: Rising Down
10. The Magnetic Fields: Distortion
11. Orchestra Baobab: Made in Dakar
12. Girl Talk: Feed the Animals
13. Raphael Saadiq: The Way I See It
14. Los Campesinos!: Hold On Now, Youngster …
15. Steinski: What Does It All Mean: 1983-2006 Retrospective
16. Robert Forster: The Evangelist
17. T.I.: Paper Trail
18. Menya: The Ol' Reach-Around
19. Jaguar Love: Jaguar Love
20. The Rough Guide to Colombian Street Party

Singles

1. M.I.A.: "Paper Planes"
2. Lee Dorsey: "Yes We Can Can"
3. Conor Oberst: "I Don't Want To Die (In the Hospital)"
4. Los Campesinos!: "Death to Los Campesinos!"
5. Rihanna: "Disturbia"
6. Mike Doughty: "More Bacon Than the Pan Can Handle"
7. Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip: "Thou Shalt Always Kill"
8. Randy Newman: "Potholes"
9. Drive-By Truckers: "The Righteous Path"
10. Nas: "Black President"

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Christgau explains why he put Lee Dorsey on his singles list. Lee Dorsey is no longer with us but....Christgau says "Old guy that I am, I don't watch music on my computer or anywhere else, but seeing will.i.am's version just once reminded me how much I loved Dorsey's (and the Treacherous Three's, though I'll bet Michelle O. loves the Pointers'), and, therefore, I stuck it atop my singles list out of sheer orneriness."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

black devil disco club is getting no mentions anywhere compared to thier last one

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 21 December 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Speaking of Anthony Hamilton, his guest spot and a number of other tracks on the new Mint Condition are ace.

Already picked up the Franco because of Christgau's A+ and its predictably wonderful. Have to get that T.I. and Raphael Saadiq.

The Roots and The Magnetic Fields aren't doing much for me, but maybe I'm just not a fan of the way they sound. I love a few tracks each off Orchestra Baobab and Robert Forster. They play as wholes in the background so far...

Pete Scholtes, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:17 (fifteen years ago) link

black devil disco club is getting no mentions anywhere compared to thier last one

cuz it's kinda dull compared to their last one :(

lex pretend, Sunday, 21 December 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Saw the movie Slumdog Millionaire last night. M.I.A.'s all over the soundtrack--a song with A.R. Rahman, "Paper Planes," and the DFA remix of "Paper Planes."

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

NY Times critics lists(Jon Pareles, Jon Caramanica, Ben Ratliff,Nate Chinen) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21cara.html?_r=1&ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print

By JON CARAMANICA
1. JAMEY JOHNSON “That Lonesome Song” (Mercury Nashville). The second album from this stoic country singer documents a series of battles — with a woman, with alcohol and drugs, with a stubborn self. The scars and the bruises, they speak for themselves, as do the words that often seem to give out, exhausted and apologetic, halfway through.

2. THE COOL KIDS “The Bake Sale” (C.A.K.E./Chocolate Industries). All memory is invention, anyway, so why shouldn’t the most precise evocation of hip-hop’s late-1980s New York golden age come from a pair of Chicago kids in their early 20s? This debut is more than tribute, though; the rapper Mikey Rocks has calm swagger, and Chuck Inglish’s beats move in multiple directions without sacrificing crispness.

3. THE GASLIGHT ANTHEM “The ’59 Sound” (SideOneDummy). The characters in this band’s Springsteen-influenced punk songs can’t be saved; years of atrophying in dead-end towns have rendered them helpless, resigned to their fates. But with his optimistic, wooly shouts, the singer Brian Fallon makes them sound like heroes, not cautionary tales.

4. TAYLOR SWIFT “Fearless” (Big Machine). Teenage subject matter notwithstanding, there’s nothing naïve about this young singer’s music; her second album is every bit as elegantly designed as her 2006 debut. Ms. Swift is one of pop’s finest songwriters, country’s foremost pragmatist and more in touch with her inner life than most adults.

5. LIL WAYNE “Tha Carter III” (Cash Money/Universal Motown). So underwhelming, so imperfect: The flaws of Lil Wayne’s sixth solo album seem so glaring because for the last two years, as he decimated the mixtape circuit with colorful, undulating rhymes, he has batted almost 1.000. Still, there’s nothing wrong with .750.

6. BON IVER “For Emma, Forever Ago” (Jagjaguwar). Bon Iver singer Justin Vernon’s croon is high-pitched and spooky; his arrangements are spare and hushed. But the small and sometimes cryptic songs on this band’s debut are deceptively tough, marching forward inexorably toward something that sounds a lot like bliss.

7. DARIUS RUCKER “Learn To Live” (Capitol Nashville). More like Hootie and the Albatrosses: Shed of the bar-band dead weight, Mr. Rucker has looked within and discovered a country classicist with a keen pop ear. And then there’s that voice, robust and honeyed and not at all, it turns out, a relic.

8. YOUNG JEEZY “The Recession” (Def Jam). This Atlanta rapper has sneered and preached and boasted and mourned. But he has never, before now, seethed. This is a harsh, captivating album about hopelessness, and Jeezy spits out unsparing observations as if they tasted bad.

9. THE ACADEMY IS ... “Fast Times at Barrington High” (Decaydance/Fueled by Ramen). Five years after promised, emo finally became power-pop this year, just in time for no one to care. That’s a shame for this Chicago band, which has a slick, acidic frontman, William Beckett, and a cache of indestructible songwriting and production by S*A*M and Sluggo that even the Jonas Brothers would kill for.

10. PLIES “Da REAList” (Slip-N-Slide/Atlantic). On this, one of two great albums he released this year, Plies is staunchly literal, more of a conversationalist than a rapper. But why bother with metaphor, imagery and cadence when straight talk can be this rich?

Top Songs

SHAWTY LO, FEATURING LUDACRIS, YOUNG JEEZY, PLIES AND LIL WAYNE “Dey Know (Remix)” (Asylum)

NE-YO “Closer” (Def Jam)

LIL WAYNE “A Milli” (Cash Money/Universal Motown)

DEMI LOVATO AND JOE JONAS “This Is Me” (Hollywood)

D-BLOCK “It’s Like That” (Koch)

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21ratl.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print Ben Ratliff has Metallica #1, then some jazz (Bennie Maupin & others) and indie (F'd up & others) and Hercules & L A.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21pare.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print Pareles has TVOTR #1 and also includes Toumani Diabete's solo instrumental kora cd, Erykah Badu, country singer Jamey Johnson, and Laura Marling

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/arts/music/21chin.html?ref=todayspaper&pagewanted=print Nate Chinen has Lil Wayne #1, then Argentinean jazz pianist Guillermo Klein, Bon Iver, West African jazz guitarist Lionel Louke, another vote for Jamey Johnson, plus more jazz, Al Green, TVOTR, and No Age

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

7. DARIUS RUCKER “Learn To Live” (Capitol Nashville). More like Hootie and the Albatrosses: Shed of the bar-band dead weight, Mr. Rucker has looked within and discovered a country classicist with a keen pop ear. And then there’s that voice, robust and honeyed and not at all, it turns out, a relic.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sherlock HOOS's Baker Steen Motherfuckers (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 21 December 2008 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I still haven't check out the cd and missed him on those country tv award show. I'm skeptical. Plus Caramanica lists the Gaslight Anthem who I just don't get---Hold Steady fans who listen to old Jersey barband rock and add little exciting to it.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:24 (fifteen years ago) link

been reading good shit about that academy is...

usic soulchild (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:28 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah idolator loves them, i didn't like their old stuff so i'm not exactly looking to get into them. maybe it's my loss.
fwiw i'm a hold steady fan and i don't particularly like the gaslight anthem

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

also no sign of fleet fuxors on slate or from what i can see frmo NYT

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Xgau did a just bust of Plies in Dec.Guide, but I'm amazed he put *all* that other stuff (even Conor Oberst, even Hayes Carll?!)before Steinski. Second only to Charlie Parker's Bird In Time 1940-1947 on my ballots--true, some of it is dated, but the peaks are so high and sharp, that the valleys seem no bigger, no deeper than those you'd find between yr own lovehandles (or mine anyway,in case yours are gross)

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Talking 'bout the Steinski being a little dated in spots, def. not Bird.

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Jon Caramaburana's taste is like the exact opposite of mine.

abanana, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Caramaburana

i put that in as filler meaning to check his name and then forgot to check it

abanana, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

You don't like rap or country? Or emo or freak-folk or barband indie?

I'm no fan of Ann Powers' writing but I wonder about this Christgau comment about Ann and some of her 2008 faves (who he praises elsewhere and she mentions they had Thanksgiving together )in Slate: Like more female than male critics, Ann has always favored the kind of unabashed emotionality I've been panning as melodrama for 40 years;

I wonder what support he has for that argument?

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean Christgau praises Ann elsewhere.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

H'mm--melodrama has its place ("melo"="music"), when well done. In music, and in music reviewing. But I did 'preciate that, despite being buddies with Marcus and even Marsh, xgau cast a cool, though not cold eye on icons like Elvis (P. and C.),Jerry Lee, Neil, etc.

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

So I guess the handy qualifier would be "*the kind of* unabashed emotionality"-eh who cares

dow, Sunday, 21 December 2008 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The National Public Radio music website and "all songs considered" concert series is so indie-wuss rock insular. Thanksfully there were a comments on their board taking them to task

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97939029&sc=nl&cc=asc-20081208#commentBlock

December 8, 2008 - It was an impressively bearded year — a year when many bands seemed to retreat to the woods, literally and figuratively, to make quieter, more personal recordings. 2008 was less about innovation and more about getting back to basics: solid songwriting, with simple guitar lines, percussion, and stunning harmonies. While bigger, more established bands like Coldplay and My Morning Jacket returned with bold, anthemic albums, debut CDs from new, smaller acts were the most memorable.

On this edition of All Songs Considered, host Bob Boilen talks with Carrie Brownstein (Monitor Mix blogger), Stephen Thompson (editor for Song of the Day), and Robin Hilton (All Songs producer and host of Second Stage) about the year in music. What were the biggest surprises of 2008? What were the best new bands, or the best songs? Listen and let us know what you think by joining the NPR online community, and sharing your comments below.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I never thought it possible that I could actively dislike Carrie Brownstein; thanks to this blog, she's done it.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

She writes about about her current indie faves and her older '90s ones with the same drab approach. And like the rest of the folks involved with the NPR site she mostly tries to pretend that anyone could ever be interested in anything but her little insular rock world.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

If only I would proofread my posts and get rid of the typos.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 21 December 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Listening to that npr roundtable discussion is painful. They're all so smug. If NPR has the likes of Christgau and Banning Eyre and Ken Tucker and others on the radio why weren't they invited to participate and offer their thoughts on genres that the others were not interested in.

curmudgeon, Monday, 22 December 2008 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

haven't been there lately, but they have had some good concerts on there, like Martha Wainwright (that one's downloadable)The best thing about the reviews is that you can check the excerpts vs. the comments; excerpts can be misleading of course, but that makes it more intriguing (or sometimes unintentional musical comedy, the best kind, of course)

dow, Monday, 22 December 2008 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Resident Advisor's Top 30 Tracks is up: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature-read.aspx?id=999

30. Sebo K - Diva [Mobilee]
29. Melchior Productions Ltd - Who Can Find Me (I Can't) [Cadenza]
28. Seth Troxler - Love Never Sleeps [Crosstown Rebels]
27. Donnacha Costello - Trust [Minimise]
26. dOP - I'm Just a Man [Eklo]
25. Portable - Release [Perlon]
24. Martyn - Natural Selection [3024]
23. Syclops - Where's Jason's K [DFA]
22. Appleblim & Peverelist - Over Here [Skull Disco]
21. DJ Koze - Zouzou [Kompakt]
20. Invisible Conga People – Cable Dazed [Italians Do It Better]
19. Move D & Benjamin Brunn - Honey [Smallville]
18. Appleblim & Peverelist - Circling [Skull Disco]
17. Stimming - Una Pena [Diynamic]
16. Dave Aju - Crazy Place [Circus Company]
15. The Juan Maclean - Happy House [DFA]
14. Ricardo Villalobos - Enfants (Chants) [Sei Es Drum]
13. Sound Stream - "Live" Goes On [Sound Stream]
12. tobias. - I Can't Fight the Feeling [Wagon Repair]
11. My My - Everybody's Talkin' [Playhouse]
10. Lawrence - Miles [Dial]
09. SIS - Nesrib [Cécille]
08. Move D - Drøne [Modern Love]
07. Omar-S - Psychotic Photosynthesis [FXHE]
06. Hercules & Love Affair - Blind [DFA]
05. Johnny D - Orbitalife [Oslo]
04. The Mole - Baby You're the One [Wagon Repair]
03. Shackleton - Death Is Not Final [Skull Disco]
02. Ricardo Villalobos - Minimoonstar [Perlon]
01. DJ Koze - I Want to Sleep [IRR]

Matos W.K., Monday, 22 December 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Jon Caramaburana's taste is like the exact opposite of mine.

Caramanica's list confirmed to me that he and Tom Breihan have v. similar tastes.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I never thought it possible that I could actively dislike Carrie Brownstein; thanks to this blog, she's done it.

i don't know somehow her being into earnest indie beard boys is no big surprise. in general i try to avoid reading what musicians i like have to say about musicians they like, cuz it's so often disappointing. (it's even worse when some indie rocker talks about that one hip-hop album they love, or when a rapper starts going on about john mayer or whatever.) there are obvious exceptions, yr j0hn d. types who are music dudes and total music geeks at the same time. but it doesn't seem that common.

tipsy mothra, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

this exercise makes me hate all music, or at least wonder what the fuck is up with my ears, or how much these dumb fucks are getting paid. the Cool Kids might very well be the worst 'rap' duo that have ever become wildly popular-- they're a terrible group who act like assholes (i've done hospitality and shit for them) and their fans don't know shit about shit.

also, TV on the Radio? should i listen to it? i love Tunde's voice, but 'Cookie Mountain' sort of made me throw up in my mouth a little, so i just ignored the newest stuff.

the table is the table, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

also, my radar for dance music has obviously left the contemporary scene. i know, like, 6 of the RA records, and only one of them made my top 10. two of them in my top 20.

the table is the table, Monday, 22 December 2008 16:43 (fifteen years ago) link

this exercise makes me hate all music, or at least wonder what the fuck is up with my ears, or how much these dumb fucks are getting paid. the Cool Kids might very well be the worst 'rap' duo that have ever become wildly popular-- they're a terrible group who act like assholes (i've done hospitality and shit for them) and their fans don't know shit about shit.

i have never done hospitality for the Cool Kids but co-sign

Maxie "Blapsie Maxie" Rosenbloom as Butch (some dude), Monday, 22 December 2008 16:46 (fifteen years ago) link


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