"that's some really wild stuff"
― buzza, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
In The Lounge of the Crimson King
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
More on Belew's fourth-rate David Byrne impersonation - "I repeat myself under stress, I repeat myself under stress." Geddit? Hilarious, eh? Anybody who finds that remotely amusing in any way should be avoided.
Dave Q really killed it on this thread, huh? I like lots of KC but I hardly ever find myself playing them. When I do, it's either Larks' Tongues or Beat.
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 27 July 2011 18:29 (twelve years ago) link
I think Belew's a pretty terrible lyricist but that was kinda the point, right? The lyrics weren't supposed to stand out. It was all about the music at that point.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
Met this guy tonight who said he'd done tarot card readings with Adrian Belew, back in '83 or so
the story just got weirder from there
― geeta, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 07:54 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSVAUjd5QI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
― nostormo, Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:35 (twelve years ago) link
Fripp speaks
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
excellent...wish it was longer
― frogbs, Saturday, 4 August 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
2009 Crimson, with Porcupine Tree drummer as second drummer, was awesome live.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 4 August 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
so, who is buying the 13 CD, 1 DVD, 1 Blu-Ray of Larks' Tongue In Aspic?
http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=3916
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 August 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
Just registered for DJM live site just so I could hear a sparse guide track for "Islands" the song. Boz sounds like he's singing into a cheap condenser mike, but otherwise it's quite lovely.
'Islands' is the worst album ever made by anybody.― dave q, Friday, February 15, 2002 7:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
NO.
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
its kind of weird to imagine that King Crimson only played a fixed amount of concerts when they were active. it feels like they're able to just create more and more live bootleg material at will, even if it was phyiscally impossible for them to have played that many dates.
― frogbs, Monday, 13 August 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
So many of them are pretty dodgy quality though, aren't they?
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Monday, 13 August 2012 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/lk/l/w/dd360157ea8e506661983ea7336800bc/4330188.gif
― frogbs, Friday, 17 August 2012 13:23 (eleven years ago) link
classic:
'released in three separate editions to satisfy the merely curious and the expectant collector'
― j., Friday, 17 August 2012 14:31 (eleven years ago) link
so, who is buying the 13 CD, 1 DVD, 1 Blu-Ray of /Larks' Tongue In Aspic/?http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=3916
http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=3916
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 20 August 2012 03:26 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWaz8xfFjuE
― Three Word Username, Monday, 20 August 2012 06:50 (eleven years ago) link
Guess Fripperlips is done for good?
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/king-crimson-robert-fripp-quits-music-business/
Hope he enjoys retirement!
― frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
He's been retired for a while, I believe. Couple of years? Also, for what it's worth, he was semi-retired for pretty much the second half of the '70s, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, this is not new news.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
Wait, hold up:
A multi-disc deluxe edition of the 1973 Crimson classic ‘Larks’ Tongues in Aspic’ is set for release in October and will include 13 CD’s, a DVD and a Blu-Ray disc.
13 CDs!?!?!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
Disc details at the bottom of this page: http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
So basically a bunch of live discs previously sold through the site. That's cool though. Band in the Muir era was neat.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
Wasn't aware Kanye had sampled "Schizoid Man," which Fripp seems pissed he didn't get paid for. Wonder if he ever paid any royalties for quoting "Surrey With The Fringe On Top" in "Moonchild?"
― Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
I figured Fripp was done, but this is the first time I ever heard him say it (I know he said he wasn't going to tour anymore some 4-5 years ago), maybe I'm just not paying attention
― frogbs, Friday, 7 September 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
Fripp got paid for Schizoid sample, but iirc only after going straight to Kanye and the two of them presenting a united front to the label. He was very careful never to criticize West, even though he could have for not clearing the sample ahead of time.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
fripp did an album with mel collins and jakko jakwhatsit last year, so he hasn't been retired for 4 years. it was a bit disappointing, definitely not the new lease on KC I think they were hoping for.
― akm, Friday, 7 September 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
Well it certainly wasnt the new lease on KC I was hoping for.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
If the '72-74 lineup reunited I would buy a ticket in about 5 seconds flat. Anything beyond that, I don't really care.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 7 September 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty sure Cross & Wetton are the only ones game for that.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'd be up for another outing of any other combination that the last 2 though (the Jakko one or previous I mean).
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 7 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Fripp has such a narrow comfort range anymore that I wouldn't see him live unless he personally invited me into his living room to hear him play. I don't need the grief while he tries to figure out whether he can midwife any music.
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Friday, 7 September 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Mentioned it before, but the last King Crimson tour I saw - Levin, Belew, Fripp, Mastelotto and the drummer from Porcupine Tree - really was awesome. There was a Fripp-less Crimson that toured with Dream Theater a couple of months ago. Believe it was basically Belew and his all-kid band, plus Levin and Mastelotto.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wpTOxb1nFw
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGJ_IC8OZMo&feature=relmfu
Looks like every one in a while on tour the drummer from Tool sat in for a few songs as second (third?) drummer.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
Why have Belew, Lake, Levin, Gunn, Wetton & Mastelotto never toured together? All of them seem quite happy to tour Crim material sans Fripp.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 8 September 2012 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
Straightforward q: what do you guys reckon the best live version of 'Fracture'? I remembered the Asbury Park one killing it, but I just listened to it and was kinda not feeling it so much. Haven't dug out the live box in a while.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
The Central Park show the from the folloeing day is to my mind the best, followed by the one of the 2 versions on the Great Deceiver, can't remember which one.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Thx
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
Central Park = one of the KCCC releases?
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
i would totally go see any lineup, even without fripp, again. missed the belew/levin retrospective lineup thing last time it went though. I would have loved to have seen 21st century schizoid band also (who jakko was in). I think jakko was the wrong person for fripp to bring in for that last release, he's too much of a follower; he's fine, but not distinctive in any way.
― akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
I dunno, any approximation of KC without Fripp seems kind of missing the point. I did see 21st Century Schizoid Band and I thought it was fairly pedestrian
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 19 September 2012 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
I have a hard time believing Fripp is truly retired.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
Retired and working harder than ever. He reminds me of a border collie patiently working the livestock (UMG, Sanctuary, etc) into a corral to be taken to slaughter.
― The Jesus and Mary Lizard (WmC), Thursday, 20 September 2012 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
Considering Fripp often lead guitar schools and workshops over the past few decades whose main point appeared to have been indoctrinating students in his precise methods and reshaping them in his (musical) image, it's actually really easy to imagine Crimson without him. Send in the clones!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_in_Central_Park,_NYCxpost to Jon Lewis
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 20 September 2012 05:34 (eleven years ago) link
yes but according to him they are all hopeless!
xp
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 20 September 2012 08:07 (eleven years ago) link
League of Hopeless Guitarists
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:11 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway, Belew has really been the dominent component over the past three decades. Fripp is awesome, but other dudes are more than capable of doing what he's been doing.
Anyone ever see any of the ProjeKCts? I saw one configuration that was Fripp on guitar (sounding like a marimba), Trey Gunn on bass, and Belew on drums (the entire night!). It kind of sucked, but it was neat to see something different.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2012 12:14 (eleven years ago) link
Goddamn that Bab and Babs!
― Davey D, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:33 (four months ago) link
Can't wait to watch that. But did watch the first minute or so in the kitchen, and come on, what are the odds that the chef's name would be Belew?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 23:35 (four months ago) link
A. Belew, even!
― nickn, Thursday, 16 November 2023 00:47 (four months ago) link
convinced that fripp is a much more normal person than he likes to portray himself.― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
idk the vibe i get from him is similar to the vibe i get from autistic folks who do not give a shit about what neurotypicals expect from them, they will fucking stim in public if it makes them comfortable
― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 16 November 2023 01:01 (four months ago) link
This is awesome. I think I mention this previously up thread, but the one tome I saw a Robert Fripp solo performance, he was like stand-up comic funny.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 16 November 2023 02:40 (four months ago) link
What a wonderful audience.
I went to the circus the other day and I hear two people whispering. I think they're talking about me and I start to get angry then I walk by one of the cages to confront them and this creature with big ears apologizes and says "sorry sugar it's just elephant talk"
― a very very unfair (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 November 2023 02:45 (four months ago) link
that was great, didn't think I was gonna watch the whole thing but I did. I didn't know Hall's voice was still that great. also the boogie-woogie piano on top of "Red" was really cool, certainly KC never would've performed it that way. I agree the vibe there is great, feels like one of those performances where everyone's trying to elevate the game because they're all so damn good.
when I first got into KC I read a lot about Fripp and he seemed like a massive prick but yeah I think he's one of those guys you have to actually hear talk and interact with others to get a sense of what he's really like. because nothing he does really translates well to the written word, like he's incredibly funny in a way that might feel awkward and mean if you just read about it. and yeah I'd wager he's def somewhere on the spectrum, as I suspect a lot of these weirdo perfectionist musicians are
― frogbs, Thursday, 16 November 2023 15:19 (four months ago) link
That was a great watch. Touching, even. Would love a Sacred Songs tour with this crew.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 18 November 2023 15:19 (four months ago) link
Maybe he was just caught up in the moment, but Daryl mentioned multiple times throughout the show working together further with Robert. In fact, they end on the whole band talking about learning five more songs to keep it going. Anyway, agreed with what everyone is saying here. The music was great, the arrangements were interesting, and the whole thing was really quite touching. And then, after all the great band performances, concluding with The Farther Away I Am—a Daryl-Robert duet on piano, vocal, and Soundscapes—just seemed to reinforce how unique and special the connection between these two is and remains almost five decades later.
― Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 18 November 2023 16:59 (four months ago) link
Would definitely see a Fripp & Hall tour. Sacred Songs is the only Daryl Hall album that I listen to from start-to-finish. (The only music from Daryl Hall that I have outside of that is a homemade compilation of Hall & Oates cuts.)
FWIW, a Hall-only Exposure plays great too. I think the version Fripp would ultimately release is really THE one - he did turn what was originally a negative into major positive, discovering several vocalists worked better than one - but if he could only have one singer, Hall would've been it.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 18 November 2023 22:04 (four months ago) link
finally saw the 50th anniversary doc. found it very moving and also funny as hell. Fripp kinda leaned into the "son of a bitch" persona he's built over the years but over time it just kind of becomes apparent that he is obsessed, often to unhealthy degrees, with attaining the unattainable.
Bill Rieflin segments extremely poignant but inspiring at the same time.
found Fripp's comments about Jakko not 'standing in anybody's shadows' and being a giant in his own right a pretty awesome moment.
the crowd reactions largely mirrored how the crowd looked when I saw them in 2020. everybody locked in, nobody turned away, on their phone, distracted, everyone transfixed and vibing rhythmically to the sounds.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 17:58 (two months ago) link
nobody turned away, on their phone, distracted
Agreed, though at the same time ...
King Crimson's photo policy is notorious. Before every concert, they post signs on the stage that say:"Good evening ladies and gentlemenWelcome to the showNow that you are in the venue pleaserefrain from taking any picturesusing a camera or your phoneuntil the very end of the showor you may be asked to leavethank you..."
"Good evening ladies and gentlemenWelcome to the showNow that you are in the venue pleaserefrain from taking any picturesusing a camera or your phoneuntil the very end of the showor you may be asked to leavethank you..."
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link
they had that posted at my show but being that it was an outdoor show in inclement weather in 2020, I don't think there were the usual number of people enforcing it. i didn't have any issue with complying as I was pretty engrossed.
― Disco Biollante (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 January 2024 18:52 (two months ago) link
Yeah same here. If you really needed a photo, at least they all stayed on the stage at the very end (also taking photos of the audience, which I thought was cute).
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 16 January 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link
Bill Bruford's got a pretty great YouTube channel - I'm just skimming through it now, but one of these weekends when the weather's shitty, I'm going to spend it watching everything on there. Pretty amazing to see the Red-era Crimson performing - I've got a ton of their recordings but unless I've forgotten, I don't think I've ever seen live footage of them, at least footage that was decent quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVzTmp3ZV4o
Also lots more with the Discipline-era group, including some from the tour where they opened for Roxy Music in 1982.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 05:08 (one month ago) link
I'm also finally watching the doc. I was an idiot for not going to see them on the last tour, I remember driving past the venue on my way to whatever.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 March 2024 17:19 (yesterday) link