Year-End Critics' Polls '08

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FWIW, my list.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Your list is a bunch of TL;DR?

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Yay!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

well, i rolled my eyes at fleet foxes, but that's just cuz i hate them. it was pretty damn predictable actually. thought it was nice Badu was high up there, did they even review that record?

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link

nabisco did

t_g, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

oh ok yeah i honestly didnt know

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I Pitchfork not going to post individual writers' lists this year? Or did I miss them?

Dan S, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

You missed them: http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/feature/148119-2008-albums-of-the-year-individual-lists

Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

This is the first year in awhile that I didn't roll my eyes at PFM's #1 album pick. Not my favorite album of the year, but at least it isn't Joanna Newsom (or Panda Bear) Sufjan Stevens.

Corrected.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks Matos

Dan S, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:40 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm, of montreal was on four lists, pretty high up on a few. compare this with, say, #50 ponytail, which was on two lists.

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Looks like while the Fleet Foxes album was #1 overall, it was only placed #1 on a single writer's individual list. By comparison, Deerhunter and Cut Copy were placed #1 on three lists apiece, while Hercules and Love Affair, Earth and Arthur Russell all placed #1 on two writers' lists apiece.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:52 (fifteen years ago) link

the responsible ones:

>> Brian Howe
2. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing

>> Eric Harvey
1. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing

>> Jayson Greene
4. Wale: The Mixtape About Nothing

abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

the responsible ones
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Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

looks like the era of beanie sigel ending up on pf end of year lists is long gone huh

please don't stop the usic (J0rdan S.), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Sig's album was merely good.

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeahhh suggesteban, looks like an executive decision (and holding fast to their 5.9) trumped the math there on Of Montreal; it does not seem to add up, not at all

yoshinorimike, Friday, 19 December 2008 19:46 (fifteen years ago) link

OH MY GOD MAYBE THEY DONT RUN THEIR EDITORIAL LIKE A DEMOCRACY WHAT WILL WE DO?!?!?!?!

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i never cried foul, whiney.

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Of Montreal were nowhere close: Only five votes, two in the top 10. Ponytail, on the other hand, were on 10 ballots, including once in the top 10. You vote for 50 albums, plus you allocate points to your top 25-- you can't just look at those lists as published and determine anything.

scottpl, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

ok thanks scott

suggesteban loaiza (k3vin k.), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

thought it was nice Badu was high up there, did they even review that record?

they reviewed it like 3 months after it came out or something, as they obv didn't think erykah badu was an artist worthy of their attention until it was obvious how much consensus there was around new amerykah. which says a lot about their editorial priorities!

thumbs up for the cave17 list btw, excellent top 2 and some interesting choices in there (like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again). we should be talking more about the cave17 list, not the pfork one.

lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:35 (fifteen years ago) link

also impressed at cave17 getting the anthony hamilton in there - released, what, four days ago?

lex pretend, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

The Cave17 list has Flight Of The Fucking Conchords on it, so no.

touch me i'm usic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:37 (fifteen years ago) link

haha we are DISQUALIFIED :[]

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, Flight of the Conchords at #4 was the weirdest thing about the list to me

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

btw Matos, thanking u so much for the soulbounce lists!

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

in re: Flight of the Conchords: We have a small staff, two people rated it very highly, end of story. Don't understand why there is any confusion. Me and my son love "Robots" because it is funny but it wasn't on my list either.

(Boring semi-defensive comment: I guess comedy records don't count unless they are hip records by hipsters like David Cross or Patton Oswalt?)

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I do need to track down the A. Hamilton

USICMAKEULOSECONTROL (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost Comedy records count if they are funny.

nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I like Conchords much more on TV, but the record is well made, which apparently this year counts for a ton. (Hey, my favorite album is Ne-Yo, so I oughta know, right?)

I posted my top 100 tracks on my blog if anyone wants to look:
http://m-matos.blogspot.com/2008/12/fuck-it-ive-tweaked-it-long-enough-and.html

Matos W.K., Friday, 19 December 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow Matos, maybe someday I'll hear like six of these

My biggest disappointment this year is not hearing more from Brazil; Gilberto Gil had 2 records out this year and CSS sure but I am just out of touch these days, my contacts down there have dried up (LOL optometry humor)

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Babe, Terror is a great Brazil 08 joint, d5: http://www.myspace.com/babeterror

nah bisco right (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 19 December 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

this not my cup of caipirinha, chris, but thanks. although we should probably keep our semi-beef alive so i can get tons of publicity for SCRAPPY LITTLE CAVE17.COM

i was hoping for albums from some of my fave rave indie brazilian people but they didnt happen yet, tudo bem

Dimension 5ive, Friday, 19 December 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

(like, raveonettes is the kind of indie that i'm not 100% down with myself, but i do love a single here and there by them and it's not what you'd expect to see on EoY lists) (and so far more welcome than fucking fleet foxezzzzzzz again).

The Pfork list would make a lot more sense if the Raveonettes album took the place of Fleet Foxes. It's a fucking great record, my #1 for a few months early in the year, and I think the comparisons to Psychocandy are on target. I'd venture to say if Lust Lust Lust was released in 1985, and Psychocandy in 2008, then Lust would be the stone cold classic Psychocandy has instead become.

I love both albums, mind you.

ilxor, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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abanana, Friday, 19 December 2008 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd like to add my voice to the "Wale is boring" chorus.

usic concrète (The Reverend), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw him on MTV Jams today and it was pretty WTF.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Friday, 19 December 2008 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Aw, man! Anthony Hamilton has a new one out? Is it great???

Someone Still Loves You Evan and Jaron (Tape Store), Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:12 (fifteen years ago) link

It is even better than Comin' From Where I'm From.

Dimension 5ive, Saturday, 20 December 2008 02:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like the Raveonettes album, but that is just rong rong rong.

To be honest... there are days I think Lust is better than Psychocandy, track for track.

ilxor, Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:20 (fifteen years ago) link

interesting. i think it's their weakest record. but i'll always prefer spectorish stuff to the marychainish stuff

Merry Christuomas (electricsound), Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Jody Rosen in Slate

1. Girl Talk, Feed the Animals
2. Lil Wayne, Tha Carter III
3. Jamey Johnson, That Lonesome Song
4. Calle 13, Los De Atrás Vienen Conmigo
5. Portishead, Third
6. Sugarland, Love on the Inside
7. Benji Hughes, A Love Extreme
8. TV on the Radio, Dear Science
9. The Cool Kids, The Bake Sale
10. Ashton Shepherd, Sounds So Good

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.slate.com/id/2206848/entry/2206850/

The Rosen album list plus his singles is part of a series of e-mails between he and Ann Powers and Robert Christgau on Slate

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Christgau at Slate (He also talked about the Franco compilation on NPR)

Albums

1. Franco: Francophonic
2. Lil Wayne: Tha Carter III (Deluxe Edition)
3. Drive-By Truckers: Brighter Than Creation's Dark
4. TV on the Radio: Dear Science
5. Coner Oberst: Coner Oberst
6. Randy Newman: Harps and Angels
7. Les Amazones de Guinee: Wamato
8. Hayes Carll: Trouble in Mind
9. The Roots: Rising Down
10. The Magnetic Fields: Distortion
11. Orchestra Baobab: Made in Dakar
12. Girl Talk: Feed the Animals
13. Raphael Saadiq: The Way I See It
14. Los Campesinos!: Hold On Now, Youngster …
15. Steinski: What Does It All Mean: 1983-2006 Retrospective
16. Robert Forster: The Evangelist
17. T.I.: Paper Trail
18. Menya: The Ol' Reach-Around
19. Jaguar Love: Jaguar Love
20. The Rough Guide to Colombian Street Party

Singles

1. M.I.A.: "Paper Planes"
2. Lee Dorsey: "Yes We Can Can"
3. Conor Oberst: "I Don't Want To Die (In the Hospital)"
4. Los Campesinos!: "Death to Los Campesinos!"
5. Rihanna: "Disturbia"
6. Mike Doughty: "More Bacon Than the Pan Can Handle"
7. Dan le Sac vs. Scroobius Pip: "Thou Shalt Always Kill"
8. Randy Newman: "Potholes"
9. Drive-By Truckers: "The Righteous Path"
10. Nas: "Black President"

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Christgau explains why he put Lee Dorsey on his singles list. Lee Dorsey is no longer with us but....Christgau says "Old guy that I am, I don't watch music on my computer or anywhere else, but seeing will.i.am's version just once reminded me how much I loved Dorsey's (and the Treacherous Three's, though I'll bet Michelle O. loves the Pointers'), and, therefore, I stuck it atop my singles list out of sheer orneriness."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 December 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

black devil disco club is getting no mentions anywhere compared to thier last one

♪☺♫☻ (gr8080), Sunday, 21 December 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link


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