Is the work of Steven Soderbergh the most overrated thing ever?

not allowed

it doesnt bother me because i dont think hes saying other people are suckers for being into narrative filmmaking - i think there are infinitely more obnoxious ways he could go about saying that he's bored with directing

also yeah that trailer looks *exactly* like a DTV action movie except with big stars. it's one of the more surreal trailers ive seen in recent memory actually

yeah it seems like a category error

anyway yeah sorry don't know why i went on and on about that quote. he seems like a decent, sincere sort who's only saying that he himself is a bit bored with what he's been up to.

I've been seeing this guy at my lab a lot recently. People are ridiculously deferential to him and he drives a beaten up old VW bug.

So, there you go

that's because he's driving the original herbie.

is that a euphemism

pass the herbie from the left hand side

Off to join Bill Watterson or something.

Passive aggressive notes

this reminded me how much i enjoyed getting away with it.

seeing the byline reminded me how much i don't enjoy dan kois

well yes that article is a list of glib thoughts and anecdotes. but the book is good!

yeah it's a good book. i didn't read the article. tbh im not even sure if i've ever read anything by dan kois except the one where he says foreign movies are for posers, which i power-skimmed.

poser.

schizopolis is ~10x better than it has any right to be

Kent Jones does a fine takedown of Kois in the new Film Comment

is there a soderbergh poll?

shd leave it till he's retired / haywire has come out

sure, just wondering if i'd missed the thread

that would have been a disaster

steven soderPOLLgh is the one to search for

Getting Away With It is very smart and enjoyable and one of the main reasons I'll always give Soderbergh the benefit of the doubt.

Sad irony having that Slate article slathered in ads for Moneyball.

I don't have a problem with ranking OOS and The Limey as his beset, and Kois is OTM about Traffic and his Best Director Oscar ("it's a helpful reminder that, to the Academy, "best directing" usually means 'most directing'").

sex lies & videotape is still brilliant imo

although weirdly for such an important film, it doesnt seem to have retained its stature

http://timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/film/15082547/steven-soderbergh-interview

hm, re-editing 'kafka' sounds interesting i guess?

glad hes not into super-quick-cutting action steez

Did not know his new flick stars Gina Carano. Infinitely more interested in seeing it now.

new flick looks *~dope~*

heard bad things

don't care

Soderbergh should make another "Schizopolis," not this commercial garbage. He's been a whore since he started working with George (C)loon(e)y.

consider yourself 'snapped', george, if you're reading tonight

http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/wenn3103499.jpg

AV Club liked it

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/haywire1.jpg?w=600&h=379

official ilx thread for steven soderbergh's haywire starring gina carano and bearded antonio banderas

I put this in the Side Effects thread too:

http://www.vulture.com/2013/01/steven-soderbergh-in-conversation.html

thanks for that, great interview

When I hear people talk about 2025, I’m like, this could all turn into Mad Max a lot sooner than that! I was talking to Dr. Larry Brilliant, who consulted on Contagion, and I asked him, “Does the world seem to be spinning out of control as fast as I think it is?” And he said, “Oh, yeah.”

i admire this dude's relentless work ethic

bummed Che went off of netfilx before i got around to watching them

Che is great.

and i've caught Contagion so many times on HBO that I've begun to think of it as a kind of minor masterwork.

I love Soderbergh interviews. The one time I talked to him he was a blast. Love that even he recognizes "Out of Sight" as his one movie where absolutely everything seemed to go right, 100%. Even the timing, which he had nothing to do with. If he made the exact same movie today, it would not be the same, because Clooney and Lopez now are totally different creatures.

ive only seen about half of his films but i've liked them all

"getting away with it" covers exactly that out of sight timing thing, but as a diary as it happened. recommended.

"But an alarming thing I learned during Contagion is that the people who pay to make the movies and the audiences who see them are actually very much in sync. I remember during previews how upset the audience was by the Jude Law character. The fact that he created a sort of mixed reaction was viewed as a flaw in the filmmaking. Not, 'Oh, that’s interesting, I’m not sure if this guy is an asshole or a hero.' People were really annoyed by that. And I thought, Wow, so ambiguity is not on the table anymore. They were angry."

great interview!