just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Movie thread

I like the number that Comics Alliance did on the first Batman:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/05/23/batman-1989-review/

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/05/30/batman-1989-part-two-review/

(They've been going through all the movies these past few weeks.)

2nd Burton Batman is great fuiud

adding a bunch of people to the enemies list

Oh, wait, I misread Burton Batman as Batman Begins. Regardless, Burton Batman has major issues, but it does strike a nice balance between comic book and dark batman. Second Burton Batman has superior set/costume design; Pfeiffer's cat woman might be the most iconic villain in one of the ultimately least iconic superhero sequels. And also, Batman Returns has ... a plot to poison Gotham's water supply, too?

2nd Burton Batman is great fuiud

^^^agreed!

Oh, wait, it's a killing of the first born plot. But the second Burton Batman does have Danny DeVito eating off someone's face, no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7PuqHC8KaE

i do love batman returns - saw it in the theater when it came out, i was 7 years old, its really just a crazy burton movie that happens to have a batman cameo in it. its got tragic penguins, killer performances from devito and walken, plus michelle pfeiffer is the definitive catwoman imo - nobody will ever change my mind on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onHNcxo-Lmk&feature=related

But anyway, Captain America. I laughed but it looks OK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0j-Zrbo7rA

the first movie is a total mess - veers wildly in tone, character motivations make no sense, plot has literally no regard for a coherent sequence of events, majority of the acting is terrible etc

the first movie is hilarious and fuiud

Michael Keaton wtf

batman returns is fantastic imo but its probably not a great 'superhero movie' the carnival atmosphere makes it too ridiculous and lurid but w/e

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6hZ4f34II

^^ HILARIOUS

look all i'm saying is if you give a major super hero franchise kick-off to the guy who made frankenweenie you get what you pay for

I mean, come on:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxySK01v1os

the first movie is hilarious and fuiud

it is hilarious. because it is SO BAD

They should have Prince play a villain in a new Batman.

Now imagine the movie actually started with this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n4s-lkYm0w

i loved dark knight as much as the next guy who didn't think it was The Greatest Film of All Time but i will take a movie where thugs deface fine art to the sound of prince over Brooding Arguments About Creeping Fascism every day of the week

xpost -- Compare and contrast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-sV-O2-jCY

(Or eight million other films, obv.)

ppl hating on "Batman" need to reexamine their aesthetic priorities IMO

I get the feeling Prince was the only one that realized how ridiculous the whole endeavor was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3Bj_So1PuA&feature=related

I am pretty certain Jack Nicholson and Michael Keaton got it, too

i am pretty sure nicholson was lol'ing all the way to the bank and i salute him for it

You're goddamn right he was:

http://promovieblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/jack-nicholson-the-joker-money.jpg

and wheeeereee is the BATman...

I kind of wonder if Prince wasn't shown any actual movie footage and just had visual cues of what the characters looked like and someone summarized the script

Thinking about the artistic process of Prince is probably something I could do for decades and still be puzzled, though

i have a feeling prince was shown some sketches of the joker's outfits and combined with some vague memories of the tv show cranked the whole thing out in an afternoon between lunch and his nap.

I wonder what the soundtrack discussions were like. "Who would really nail the feel of Tim Burton's Batman?" "Well obviously someone famous for being horny and funky, right? Horny and funky are definitely the adjectives that spring to mind looking at the storyboards."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt2nc2NkcGE

I am pretty sure the discussion was more like "$$$$$? $$$$$$. $$$$$ PRINCE!" "$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Oh man I'm going to have Batdance stuck in my head the rest of the afternoon, aren't I?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyrdui5wQmE

^^ classic material

That edit of the boxing glove apparently taking out Billy Dee Williams and then pulling back to show it was hitting the TV screen = A+ still.

still mad at Schumacher for turning Billy Dee Williams into Tommy Lee Jones

haha i remember being 11 and none of my friends understanding why it was so cool that billy dee was harvey dent. "give it a couple movies. you'll see!"

I love Batdance btw

Vicki Vale! Vick - Vick - Vick - Vicki Vale!

xp In Blockbuster, Tom Shone identifies Batman as the tipping point for blockbuster hype - the first movie where hype was successfully manufactured on a grand scale. I wish he'd included a bit about the soundtrack because I bet the conversation was pretty much verbatim as Dan said.

i can still recall the shock and awe of seeing this commercial for this for the first time. my parents only got me to finally go to bed when it was clear they weren't going to play it again that night.

I remember the shock and awe of seeing the soundtrack cassette

also hearing "The Future" and "Electric Chair" for the first time

and yeah, the hype for this was insane. i was too young to really live through star wars hype, but i don't remember anything being so...saturated for so many months before the thing premiered.

the amount of batman-related merchandise i bought in the spring/summer of 1989 was 0_o.

the first batman was before my time, but i remember watching it on tv as a kid and asking my dad why batman was wearing a turtleneck and glasses - i found it very confusing that batman would dress like a weenie

like i remember going to county fairs and shit and there being booths where people had made bootleg batman buttons where they didn't even get the symbol right and still selling out of them.

even carnies know a good thing when they see it, i guess.

My dad was such a Batman stan (since the 60s) that he bought the soundtrack. It's not the first Prince album I would have chosen to hear all the way through. Probably stopped me from going beyond his singles for a few years afterwards.