Tell Me about the Fender Jazzmaster (MOD: Also Jaguar, etc.)

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eye dew knot no how 2 phind owt watt year mi JM izz it waz kraphted in japan the ser.No. izz Q030524 kan anyone help me.. {it izz lake placid blue(shiney blue)}

heith, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

According to the serial number, it was made in 1993-1994.

Here's a generally useful tool for Fender dating:

http://www.fender.com/support/dating/

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, if you go here:

http://www.fender.com/support/diagrams/index.php

and scroll all the way to the bottom of the page (which will take a while) there's a really straightforward Jazzmaster switching diagram in pdf format. I would post it, but I'm not smart enough to know how to post .pdf format to Ilx.

John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I am going to buy a reissue 62 JM or a Jag. I don't know which though, so you're going to have to help me!! I will be trying out a few of each over the next few months. I want character, unusual tones, something a bit out of the ordinary (alright.....I want to sound like Tom Verlaine, but the fingers may not be up to the job). I'm hoping it'll sound great on cleans and light o/drive, from what I read I don't think I'll be disappointed, but no idea what to expect with higher gain effects.

As far as I can tell the Jag has one more fret (not important), a strangle switch (is this good? I like the sound of it), different PUs (any info about the characteristics of these would be interesting). How do the different circuit/pick-up combos compare?

Jim - you said yr old JM was way better than yr Jag. Any more thoughts?

Also, thoughts on the bridge. Are they really as dodgy as people say? I am happy to put in a buzz bar or a mustang bridge, but your thoughts welcome.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 10:56 (seventeen years ago) link

I see there were bridge and PU comments upthread that I hadn't seen. Anyway - more welcome.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:02 (seventeen years ago) link

There are not enough pictures on this thread! What does your Fender Jazzmaster look like?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2363/1091/1600/may11guitar.jpg

I Was Wrong, That Don't Mean You Were Right (kate), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm gonna go for sunburst or candy-apple red if I can find a good one in those colours. Yours is lovely though, Kate.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for the diagram, I played a blue Jazzmaster a couple of weeks ago and felt too stupid to ask someone how those roll switches on the top worked.

What an odd wiring design.

I think the Jazzmaster/Jaguar body shape is really underused by Fender. I like the look without all of the extra switching. This Jaguar Baritone looks sharp and would be great as a two humbucker or P90 jazzmaster scale guitar. It would be like an SG with a Strat scale length.

ihttp://www.electric-guitar-review.com/images/Fender%20Jaguar%20Baritone%

Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Soon to be arriving at my store:

http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0259505515

So incredibly good it hurts.

John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

ESP got there WAY before them on that bass, and a bunch of cheap-o Chinese manufacturers too. Couldn't get them in the US, though.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, lust lust lust. I can't get that baritone picture to work, though.

The Minimal Criminal (kate), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 10:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Those Jaguar basses are gorgeous. I tried one out a couple of months ago and I loved it; very versatile with a great range of sounds. I'm currently lamenting the fact that I don't have the money, and should I get some money, my priority has to be a new computer. Bah!

Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:47 (seventeen years ago) link

And also lamenting that I let slip the oppurtunity to buy a Jaguar baritone for £350 including hardcase. Double bah!

Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 18 May 2006 17:49 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, JJ: what store?? i should poke my head in next time i'm home.

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Eclipse Music in beautiful, scenic...West St. Paul.

John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 18 May 2006 19:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Let's try this again...

ihttp://www.fendereurope.com/news/images/Jag_Baritone_Special.jpg

Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, 18 May 2006 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

gorgeous is the word

http://www.fender.com/products/prod_images/basses/0259505515_md.jpg

dan (dan), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

We sold the first two we got in (1 red, 1 black) the day they showed up. The neck on that bass is FANTASTIC, and the aged block inlays look super-cool in person. Feels sort of like the Geddy Lee neck, without the rest of the bass having all the Geddyleeidness.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:36 (seventeen years ago) link

are there other colors? the red headstock is kinda yucky

guess papers (eman), Friday, 19 May 2006 01:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My main bass these days is actually a Geddy Lee Jazz. It sounds good and the thin neck is choice. The only vintage thing they should have left off was having to take the neck off to adjust the truss rod. The inlays on the Ged are painted. I swapped out the white pickguard on mine and put a black pearloid one.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 19 May 2006 04:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i will check it out next time i'm home, JJ!

gbx (skowly), Friday, 19 May 2006 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

RE: Geddy Lee Bass.

Actually, we have one of those coming as well. They're fantastic. The Geddyleeidness I referred to is the Mod Shop style of that bass (badass bridge, etc.). My only actual critique of the bass is the black neck binding, which is legit, but still bugs me for some reason.

John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 20 May 2006 07:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I really like that Jag bass in the sunburst, it looks real fab. The red one didn't really get me, but the sunburst is the shiznick. I'm going to have to check out one of those.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Sunday, 21 May 2006 01:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Personally I just want a Mustang like nuts, based mostly on coveting an old bandmate's. But I suspect I'm way too cheap about guitars for anything that nice to be the thing that replaces my broken-down Squier.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 04:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i've played a mustang, a musicmaster and a bronco - the mustang was def the nicest of the three. but jazzm tops them all imo. it feels so classy to play. i don't know why, but the jag felt like a guitar for making noise. beautiful noise, of course.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 05:01 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Hey Guys I work at a used music store and last week my boss brought in his 1962 jazzmaster (real deal) he got about 30 years ago for 250.00 and of course as a surf player i fell in love with it. my buddy happed to have a 62 re-issue so we did the pepsi challenge, The real one won round one…but I just set up the MIJ and
Were doing round 2 tomorrow. So ill get back to you.

The switch on top…at least on the MIJ I am playing in the down position is normal operation with volume and tone knobs and in the up position is only the neck pickup and the “wheels” are volume and tone for the neck pickup and the other controls are disabled. But the neck pickup rules and the bridge is too quiet but I think I can wedge something under it to raise it a little to match volume of neck pickup.

But I need a trem arm for the MIJ can anyone help? If you don’t use yours can I buy it from you. To me that’s the hero of the guitar is the trem system. I play in a surf band so it is necessary for me.
Thanks Scot

Scot Haut, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Guys I work at a used music store and last week my boss brought in his 1962 jazzmaster (real deal) he got about 30 years ago for 250.00 and of course as a surf player i fell in love with it. my buddy happed to have a 62 re-issue so we did the pepsi challenge, The real one won round one…but I just set up the MIJ and
Were doing round 2 tomorrow. So ill get back to you.

The switch on top…at least on the MIJ I am playing in the down position is normal operation with volume and tone knobs and in the up position is only the neck pickup and the “wheels” are volume and tone for the neck pickup and the other controls are disabled. But the neck pickup rules and the bridge is too quiet but I think I can wedge something under it to raise it a little to match volume of neck pickup.

But I need a trem arm for the MIJ can anyone help? If you don’t use yours can I buy it from you. To me that’s the hero of the guitar is the trem system. I play in a surf band so it is necessary for me.
Thanks Scot

Scot Haut, Tuesday, 13 June 2006 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Psst. Secret information follows:

'65 Mustang MIJ reissue arriving for Fender summer production. Will be announced officially at Summer Namm.

John, Justen, REMIXING, MANG, WHAT??? (johnjusten), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 23:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Is that the "Competition" model? Or was that later?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link

No racing stripes...I think that was later. Apparently pretty painstakingly accurate though. I'll post more details tomorrow when I'm back at work.

John, Justen, REMIXING, MANG, WHAT??? (johnjusten), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Street price should be $700, btw.

John Justen, UMSOGTH PERMAPRESS CTHULU. (johnjusten), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn, I really wish Fender would reissue the competition Mustang WITH matching headstock this time! I missed out a few years back when they reissued it. I just don't know why they have to be limited edition.

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I think it was in '68 or '69, that the Mustang came with the stripes. But I don't know which year they introduced the contour on the back of the body. '65 seems like it would be the slab body version of the Mustang, which would be pretty cool. I guess we'll find out tomorrow : )

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

man racing stripes are the way to play faster. and speed holes. maybe shape them like f's. (for "fast")

dang why you even got to say such a thing, wes? your humor is not okay (meanin, Wednesday, 21 June 2006 02:04 (seventeen years ago) link

if you have a few hours to play with, you can go here to look at pretty pictures, and then here to contemplate actually pulling the trigger, after going here to convert yen to $.

now for more pretty pictures

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/backsliding/33294_b.gif

$702 to my door

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j314/backsliding/49464_b-1.gif

$827 to my door

dan (dan), Friday, 23 June 2006 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, they look great, the white one especially. They look so much nicer w/the matching headstock colour too!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 23 June 2006 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I am about to pull the trigger - I just need to figure out whether I want a Jag or a JM. There are some decent deals around right now - I have seen JMs for around £400. Jags seem to be more. I guess I need to try some - so a trip to Anderton's or Pete's Guitars is imminent.

Kate - have you modded your JM in any way, or is it absolutely stock. Any mods to the bridge? I ask because you're the only person I know who has a JM, and I've heard how good it sounded in action.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:47 (seventeen years ago) link

**and then here to contemplate actually pulling the trigger**

'tremoro' system!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

The white one is really sharp. I also like the block inlay, those look great and Fender does not use them as much as they should.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 23 June 2006 21:11 (seventeen years ago) link

i agree, the white one looks extra nice!

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 23 June 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(Earlier mention)
Anyone that puts a mustang bridge abd a buzzstop on a Jazzmaster is an IDIOT!!!!
How's that mustang bridge going to line up the string, huh?
Anyway..just get a little file and groove out the saddles for each string and put a dab of your clear finger nail opolish on the screws to lockem'.

Also the buzzstop kills the tone and feel. There is a reason for the extended string length and height after the bridge.
If I have to listen to anyone else ruin a Jazzmaster with these stupid mods I will puke!!!!!!!

JimK, Friday, 23 June 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Are all of these guitars limited edition??

xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Saturday, 24 June 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

my MIJ jag (bought in japan) has the block inlay but also matching headstock. not placid blue, the one that's a bit deeper. the bridge is much much different than my vintage jag but it's still a pretty nice guitar.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

i mean they're both floating trem bridges but the vintage one is more woozy, a little more prone to going out of tune after a beating and truly floats. the MIJ one is stiff... doesn't really float as much as the vintage one.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 25 June 2006 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Being contrary, I really like the red one.

No mods to mine, Dr. C, however it is broken, and I can't get it into the jazz circuit - maybe an unintentional mod!

It keeps good tune, however, I did have to customise (OK, wrap in tape and jam in so it doesn't lock) the tremolo arm to get the proper floaty wooziness.

How does a ferret get invisible, then? (kate), Monday, 26 June 2006 09:00 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
so the jm i just bought sounds great great great *except* i can't do bends on the b and high e-string or the tone gets totally muted somewhere down near the bridge

detail: i didn't put in a mustang bridge, just a buzz-stop.

i know these are rattly guitars, but is this normal? should i try to have my guitar guy set it up again in some different way?

Mark Danjer (Danjer), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Um...neck shim thing I can't remember. Gzeus to thread, stat.

John Justen, All Dude Dual Groom Swordfight Revue (johnjusten), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 21:25 (seventeen years ago) link

get better at guitar, you jerkoff.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 01:48 (seventeen years ago) link

also could be a fret problem.

AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 01:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yikes. never been in the market for a usa-made fender but they have seemed to have a decent rep for a long time now, certainly not with qc issues like that

call all destroyer, Saturday, 19 November 2022 03:02 (one year ago) link

yeah wow those am vintage series were always prided on being super mint

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

I have a squire jagmaster. It was the vista series from the 90s. Wonderful neck. Great vibrations

| (Latham Green), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

I have a squire jagmaster. It was the vista series from the 90s. Wonderful neck. Great vibrations

| (Latham Green), Monday, 21 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

I had a 62 reissue. Cool looking guitar but I ended up not liking it and sold it a few years later. That one did hold its value though. I guess I am pretty much a Strat guy for my surf tremolo guitar action.

Jazzmasters are funky instruments and definitely not something that is ready to go out of the box. The vintage style bridge and it's location can be a bit tricky. I'd definitely file it next to the Firebird banjo tuners, a Bigsby and any guitar with a Floyd for stuff you got to figure out how to deal with if you want to play one on a regular basis.

Fender seems to have sold a boodle of the Squire J Mascis models and people seem to like them.

earlnash, Friday, 25 November 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

couple of honeys hanging at my place
https://i.imgur.com/d2ZKdIj.jpg

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

That red matching headstock looks sharp.

earlnash, Friday, 25 November 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

Cheers. I was never a Candy Apple Red fan but that one is 35 years old and has darkened up nicely.

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 25 November 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Roy Clark is the best...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT2PTetKMU8

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 26 November 2022 02:56 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

Someone posted photos of the new Squire 12-string Jazzmaster's insides to r/offset and everyone is going full Zapruder film on the parts and possibilities
https://www.reddit.com/r/offset/comments/144c2d9/for_anyone_wondering_these_are_the_inner_workings/

Upgrade the wiring and the pickups and you would have a hell of a cool guitar with one of them.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 June 2023 10:29 (ten months ago) link

do i need one of these? no

do i want one of these? fuck yes

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 June 2023 10:33 (ten months ago) link

For those that have a rat, big muff, blues driver AND a tone bender... a little something for everyone!:

https://www.fender.com/en-US/effects-pedals/boost-gain/fender-shields-blender-limited-edition/0234552099.html

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:20 (ten months ago) link

huh i have a fender blender but i almost never use it, it's such an extreme and distinct sound

na (NA), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 15:23 (ten months ago) link

Run a pedalboard with the Albini Dude Incredible, Shields Blender and Sunn O))) Life Pedal to cover all your non-time based bases.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 13 June 2023 23:00 (ten months ago) link

toss in the hizumitas pedal that earthquaker did w/the lady from boris!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 00:37 (ten months ago) link

I have a Rowland S Howard signature pedal - MXR D+ + Blue Box but I've never been able to tell if it's not functioning correctly or if the Blue Box is just that unusable for me. D+ side sounds great though.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 01:14 (ten months ago) link

I'm bringing my Acid Fuzz Sonic Boom 3-in-1 to this signature pedal festival.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 02:28 (ten months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjY2QJ1QnsU

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:25 (ten months ago) link

(the catch is that you have to figure out Shields' tuning in order to do all that)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:26 (ten months ago) link

trying to figure out why this is $2-300 more than a stock Blender and it's basically the sag/clipping voltage feature (not really present on any mbv material afaik?)...

seems like i would rather take my regular blender and bring it to my soldering/mod guy and pay him $50 to mod it?

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 03:41 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ultra deep dive on the Squire Jazzmaster XII

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYvll3Jwn2M

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 3 July 2023 11:10 (nine months ago) link

People need to stop making me want that.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 06:08 (nine months ago) link


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