― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― blueski, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 21:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Wyndham Earl, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
m.
― msp, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kenan, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
Before that was punk with Bad Religion, Dead Kennedys, Minor Threat et al.
― Ian Johnson, Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 22:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 October 2002 23:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
which may speak for my recent/current VIOLENT RAMP obsession.
― gygax!, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 02:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
That, and Peel - got me into everything from The Flaming Lips, Pavement & Pulp to minimalist techno, early drum'n'bass, German folk music and African pop. Still don't like The Fall much, but.
― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 03:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 07:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
Seriously, if I could point to one thing that turned me musically weird... WCDB Albany, NY. Used to be the most amazing college radio station. Now I hear it's all sports all the time or something... ugh.
― kate, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 09:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 10:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 10:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
Depends on how you define it obv, but if we mean alternative *mainly guitar-based music*, then I'd say it's narrower in every way - ambition, emotional range, use of sound, willingness to experiment and so on.
Also doesn't *alternative* get in the charts? Or does getting in the charts disqualify it as *alternative*? Which is silly.
The use of alternative seems so early 80's.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 10:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 10:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
Pre-punk I was into whatever was in the charts plus the odd bit of prog which friends' elder brothers usually had. I also saw non-chart stuff on OGWT, but didn't really connect with it as much as chart music. Punk took its time to travel to the rural North, so I was about 6 months behind London. We'd heard The Pistols/Damned/Ramones/Subway Sect/Buzzcocks etc on J.Peel and read about them in the music press, but didn't fully get into it until the first punk recds hit the charts in 1977. I remember watching the Tony Wilson program 'So It Goes' too, but that was 1978 wasn't it?
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 10:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
And Boards of Canada, Neu!, Sonic Youth, Yo La Tengo, Field Mice, Montgolfier Brothers, Godspeed YBE!, Cat Power, Pixies, Jesus & Mary Chain, Tocotronic to name but a few. I like alt-country but there is a lot of alternative music I like which has nothing to do with it.
P.S. Concerning the definition of alternative in this thread, have a look at the question, Dr.C:And by Alternative I dont just mean Alternative rock. I mean, pretty much, anything that isnt mainstream
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 10:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 11:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 14:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
the progression for me went as such:7th-9th grade - classic rock10th grade - pearl jam, smashing pumkins, nirvana...11th grade - sonic youth, nirvana, pavement, yo la tengo12th grade - sonic youth, pavement, yo la tengo, the pixies
college it all exploded into me basically listening to anything in my search for great stuff. its not like when someone says "oh I listen to everything" and really mean "I don't give a shit about music" I mean it as "I'll listen to anything once, and if it seems like it could be special, I'll listen to it again."
― tinobeat (tinobeat), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 16:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
Were I more socially agile back then, my enjoyment of the music wouldn't have progressed past a superficial "because it sounds cool" brainwashed cock-sucking level. But, hey, when you feel ostracized (regardless of whether it's true or not) - better yet, when you WANT to feel ostracized (since that's easier to cope with than the grey areas of truth defining your feelings of inadequacy and awkwardness) - and you want to reinforce your self-worth, why not construct walls of counter-culture coolness covered in glyphs decipherable only by One Of Us, thereby reinforcing the ostracization that might / might not have lead you to this state of exile in the first place, along with reinforcing the bullshit strata that ultimately leads to the Us Vs Them mentality permeating most of pop culture?
(And I qualified strata w/ "bullshit" because that's what I want it to be, not because it actually is.)
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 17:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 18:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Amedee Archambault (Amedee), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 October 2002 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
Nirvana
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
Wanting to be the kind of person who had opinions on the Pixies.
― Treeship, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:30 (ten years ago) link
bands
― Chinese Taipei (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
albums
― JEFF 22 (Matt P), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
those too
― Chinese Taipei (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Melody Maker
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
My new friends in secondary school liked Green Day
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
are you still friends?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
with most of them, yes
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
Do you still call them "basic bitches"?
― Treeship, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:47 (ten years ago) link
on occasion
― Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link