Taking Sides: Motown (The Sound of Detroit) v. Gamble & Huff (The Sound of Philadelphia)

(Benny Benjamin was no slouch either.)

Eisbar - i rather suspect that Geir's sole awareness of Philly soul would be the more MOR stuff the Stylistics did with Hugo & Luigi which was big in Britain but not the US - he probably likes "Na Na Is The Saddest Word" because it has a "classically European arrangement" (actually, i rather like that arrangement as well, but not because it's "classically European", just because it *works*). or maybe Elton's collaborations with Thom Bell, which i also like, but *you know* ...

(sorry everyone, continue thread normality)

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oh great more fucking cock

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

the 70s disco age was the darkest age of music after The Beatles.

"so-called jazz compositions must contain at most 10% syncopation" (Nazis' instruction to Czech dance bands during their occupation)

your phraseology reminds me of Enid Blyton saying that somebody's nose was "over-long" in a book written during the Second World War (with its obvious overtones of the British aristocratic interest in eugenics)

funk is to Hongro what jazz was to the Nazis. had he been around in the 40s he'd have been calling Vidkun Quisling a saviour of his people.

you clearly know ABSOLUTELY FUCK ALL about the interconnectedness of all the elements within Nazism. your post reads like you only learnt today that Nazi Germany ever actually existed at all. "uninteresting" is also a fucking tasteless word to use to describe such a murderous doctrine as Nazism. to infer such things is to move closer and closer to being David Irving.

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My musical views, however, like Hitlers, are very "German", in that I like the idea of "absolute music", and of music as an intellectual thing, something that appeals to your head rather than your body, which is very much the same thing that Brahms or Mendelsohn would have spoken about in the 19th century. Obviously, this "German" heritage may have appealed to Hitler, but you can't call Brahms, Mendelsohn, or even Wagner, nazis just because Hitler later shared their musical views.

1) Classical Music
2) History
3) Cultural History
4) Politics, including its vital and unavoidable connections with music

Of course, the entire idea of a politician banning a style of music just because he doesn't like it (for "objective" reasons or not) is completely absurd and grotesque. And, I mean, even as much as I hate the idea of 12 tone music, having 12 note composers killed because of their music was, well... ... quite undescribable, really...

http://www.inmusicwetrust.com/articles/images/29/r33.jpg

is it because i attacked him?

one law for carlin, another law for everybody else on ilx part 2450.

you people would probably come out in favour of paedophilia if i attacked it.

so let's get rid of this relativism. hongro is a stinking racist piece of shit who, if the moderators had any guts at all, would long have been banned from these boards.

his mother should have had an abortion rather than make us suffer.

in future when i ask a question on ilm or ilx i expect relevant answers. if you can't give them, keep your shit to yourself.

in what way do we suffer, really?

I'm not defending him.

I'm just finding it weird like a mondo film.

The sad answer to your question AFAIK Marcello is "apart from the one Matos mentioned there aren't any good ones in the UK", the fashion in soul and disco reissues seems to cycle along with the fashion in pop reissues, so it's all 80s soul weekender stuff now and no love for Philly. It's hard to find on soulseek too :(

Xpost: if you want Geir to be banned ask on the Mods board Marcello. As it stands I don't think anything he does merits banning - he has some spectacularly wrong-headed ideas which he debates politely and without flaming or threatening other people. It's also not as if he's the thin end of any unpleasant wedge or is corrupting the hearts and minds of ILM - everyone disagrees with him all the time.

I ch-ch-choose THE SOUND OF PHILADELPHIA - those strings get me every time.

http://citypaper.net/articles/2003-08-07/cover.shtml

After four decades of lying dormant, a collection of unproduced tracks from the defunct Philly Groove label may one day find its way onto your playlist thanks to a partnership between Drexel and New York music publisher Reservoir.

http://drexelmagazine.org/2015/07/drexel-helps-long-gone-music-label-get-its-groove-back/

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/09/arts/music/joe-tarsia-dead.html

RIP Joe Tarsia engineer at his own Sigma studio in Philadelphia who worked on many a Philly soul record in the 70s