― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 February 2003 22:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
Also, I like the idea of "kittens!" but I don't like kittens in reality. Does this have anything to do with my relationship with indiepop?
― Miranda (Miranda), Friday, 21 February 2003 23:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
That's not really an answer, I guess. I was trying to write to people who don't care about indiepop, in order to offer them some interesting new things to look into. A lot of people read Pitchfork, so I imagine a few of them will figure out how to order it. Plenty of them will find at least one copy in their local stores; maybe enough others will ask about it to get more store buyers to try and order copies. But yeah, a lot of them will just go through the next few years thinking "Boyracer ... I think I read a positive review once, but I've never seen their records anywhere."
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 February 2003 23:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 21 February 2003 23:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
spam to thread!
http://www.pataphysics-lab.com/cgi-bin/cart.cgi?item_id=512&action=showitem
m.
― msp, Saturday, 22 February 2003 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Miranda (Miranda), Saturday, 22 February 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 22 February 2003 00:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gygax!, Saturday, 22 February 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
the boyracer album is just wonderful, something about the speed at which stewart strums his guitar is thrilling to no end. and the aislers set album is just incredible, amy linton is the smartest pop chick(oh no i said pop) on the block.
― keith (keithmcl), Saturday, 22 February 2003 02:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
Well i like FLorian a lot have done it for a few years now...
― Jens (brighter), Saturday, 22 February 2003 10:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
The number one band in the indiepop list poll this year was the Funday Mornings, so me and a few others i know scrabled around to find their records. As Pete H. says on twee.net it's straightforward Fat Tulips esqe fun pop, and it's OK, but it's not mind boggling good. So I'm still waiting for a best new band to come along. And I've been signing on to the tape-swaps just waiting for them to jump out at me.
― marianna, Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marianna, Saturday, 22 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 22 February 2003 21:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 22 February 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
*drools* what an amazing song that is
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jack cole (jackcole), Sunday, 23 February 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 23 February 2003 07:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Sunday, 23 February 2003 10:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
I do not care if braindead indiepop fans do that david (free jazz threads only ever get 5-20 replies anyway). I have heard indiepop and most of it has nothing going for it.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
Doesn't that approach kind of miss the point? I should really stay out of this.
-fh
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
I arranged their first live show, they are really nice 15 year oldsyou can get their 7" from www.benno.com or maybe www.normanrecords.comor maybe www.roughtrade.com
You´ll like it if you like the likes of Fat tulips, Talulah gosh, Twa toots...
― Jens (brighter), Sunday, 23 February 2003 11:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
(Plus i know one of their members so I'm loath to do my usual sight-unseen slagging)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 23 February 2003 22:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I am curious about the Baskervilles.
It has been a quiet start of 2004 for indiepop.
― marianna, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 14:45 (twenty years ago) link
― LondonLee (LondonLee), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 15:14 (twenty years ago) link
The Architecture in Helsinki album is coming out in Europe and USA in April. It's really nice.
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:51 (twenty years ago) link
― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 18:59 (twenty years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Dare, Wednesday, 24 March 2004 19:16 (twenty years ago) link
the magic whispers cd is great, kinda like a modern update of hunky dory but with two girls singing. the pipas ep is fantastic. new brunettes album is out soon.
― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link
And Orlando is hot, even though they are only a pretend indie band.
― Luke Broster, Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 25 March 2004 07:45 (twenty years ago) link
i've heard the lp, courtesy of melbournian friend, and is one of my favourites of last year. and they made it into peel's festive fifty with that song about the owl (or something). remind me a lot of bearsuit and hyper kinako if that helps, like the indiepop version of melt banana - little bitty pop songs.
oh, here we go, festive fifty 2003: (http://infoman16.tripod.com/festive50/festiv03.htm)
5- Bearsuit - Itsuko got married (A-side of limited edition single)29- Architecture In Helsinki - The owls go (from Fingers Crossed)44- Hyper-Kinako - Tokyo Invention Registration Office (B-side of Car And Kettle) (Demo)
andy
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 25 March 2004 16:35 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 March 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link
― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 25 March 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
He was invited to write for the fourth album too, but he neglected to get anything put together. I think the two of them are on a similar wavelength, though, so it shouldn't affect the style much. Besides, it isn't as of non-Bid material has never been featured on a Scarlet's Well album. If Dickon even writes anything, that is.
But at the same time, I can see what you mean. The subject matter is so outlandish that it'd be easy for it to fall into self-parody without some careful rules set into place.
― Luke Broster, Friday, 26 March 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link
Comes out the middle of the next month, but you can get it early from their website now.
― Ryan WS (fffv), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link
― fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 26 March 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 13 April 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― youn, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― youn, Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Thursday, 19 May 2005 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 19 May 2005 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― mikef-who-mostly-lurks (mfleming), Thursday, 19 May 2005 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh yes, there were other addendum lists that came out at the time, I compiled them all.
Whats your top 10 indie pop LPs?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 3 March 2023 17:31 (one year ago) link
There were? I thought this was just a singular fan exercise by that blog.
Dang, I'll need a minute to over-think that answer. There's so much overlap with shoegaze, american shoegaze, lo-fi, Dino Jr rock, slacker, general ameri-indie stylings...
Give me some guard rails maybe!
― Evan, Friday, 3 March 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
I’m not listening to much of this kind of stuff at the moment but was surprised and pleased to see a song by the band I was in 35+ years ago crop up in that addendum list. Thanks for posting it, Evan.
― Tim, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:11 (one year ago) link
Of course! That is a fun surprise. And because you weren't forthcoming about it, I won't ask :)
― Evan, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link
Haha sorry for being obtuse, you can hear me singing on “Goldmining” by The Visitors.
― Tim, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:22 (one year ago) link
Wow, top spot!
― Evan, Friday, 3 March 2023 22:33 (one year ago) link
Second Story - The Hang UpsSunlight In A Jar - The LucksmithsTrampoline - Greenberry WoodsPassion Play - Papas FritasTallulah - Allo DarlinMercury Girl - Cleaners From VenusLunar Sea - Camera ObscuraSprocket Dick - Tripmaster MonkeyBlack Cab - Jens LekmanThe Wild Ones - Push Kings
― enochroot, Saturday, 4 March 2023 01:23 (one year ago) link
I still have the Visitors flexidisc!
― everything, Saturday, 4 March 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
!! A really tiny number of people seem to like it quite a lot.
― Tim, Saturday, 4 March 2023 11:24 (one year ago) link
Not sure if I quite grasp the thread revival, but FWIW I listen to late 1980s UK indie a great deal. In recent weeks I was playing the C87 CDs 2 and 3 over and over and over again.
I also enjoy Tim's old records, but he knows that already.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 4 March 2023 11:49 (one year ago) link
I found 3 great sources for addendum's to "Scared To Get Happy":
From Wilfully Obscure (http://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/2013/06/va-scared-to-get-happy-addendum-aka.html):01. Visitors - Goldmining02. Moss Poles - Go Down03. Remember Fun - Train Journeys04. Field Mice - I Thought Wrong (Run away) (demo)05. The Church Grims - Plaster Saint06. Candy Skins - She Blew Me Away07. Outskirts - Blue Line08. Various Artists (the band) - Original Mixed Up Kid09. North of Cornwallis - Billy Liar10. Hellfire Sermons - Rachel Clean11. Potting Sheds - Happy Again12. The Perfect Disaster - Call it a Day13. Hey Paulette - I Really Do Love Penelope14. Jane From Occupied Europe - Ocean Run Dry15. James Dean Driving Experience - Drop Dead Darling16. The Rose Of Avalanche - Always There17. Power of Dreams - The Jokes On Me (demo)18. Palisades - Knight in Gale19. This Scarlet Train - Picture Frame20. St. Christopher - Even The Sky Seems Blue21. Stray Trolleys - Secret Dreams Of A Kitchen Porter22. Sundays - Can't Be Sure (4-track demo)
From Facebook suggestions:Playthings - JuiceThe Times - My Andy Warhol PosterThe Cleaners From Venus - Julie ProfumoAtom Spies - Aliens In Your WardrobeThe Perfect Disaster - TV Girl On FireThe Passmore Sisters - Every Child In HeavenBarbel - InfernoJim Jiminee - I Wanna Work OR +Snap Me UpSt. James Infirmary - Terry MarriageheadEssential Bop - Eloquent Sounds OR +CroakedElectric Guitars - WorkThe Lilac Time - Return To YesterdaySnakes Of Shake - Southern CrossMemphis - You Supply The RosesDislocation Dance - You’ll Never, Never KnowThe Anyways - ConfessionThe Friendly Fires - ArkansasFat Tulips - Where’s Clare Grogan Now?Parachute Men - Leeds StationFizzbombs - SurfaroundMousefolk - Devil in the Deep Blue SeaBaby Lemonade - Real WorldMayfields - World of Your OwnMoss Poles - One SummerThe Bridewell Taxis - Just Good FriendsCandy Darlings - That’s Where Caroline LivesThe Big Paintings - My Minitrend FriendGifted Children - My Favourite FilmsHoneycrash - Kill Someone You Like (aka I Don't Blame You)Fontaines - I Want EverythingCity Giants - Little Next To NothingJazzateers - Wasted OR +Natural Progression (Part 1)
From https://pedaladasabuenritmo.wordpress.com/2013/07/04/scared-to-get-happy-addendum-i/Young Marble Giants - CakewalkingVic Godard - Stop That GirlDirect Hits -Modesty BlaiseEyeless In Gaza - New RisenRinging - CapriceMemphis - You Supply The RosesCocteau Twins - Aikea GuineaBeloved - A Hundred WordsEnormous Room - 100 Different WordsStars Of Heaven - Talk About It NowBridge - Shame Is A GirlWallflowers - Thank YouCleaners From Venus - Living With Victoria GreyJames Dean Driving Experience - World Weary & Wise (new version)Emily - Mad DogsReserve - A Perfect LieThe Man From Delmonte - (Will Nobody Save) LouiseThe Parachute Men - Sometimes In VainMarden Hill - Oh ConstanceRemember Fun - Cold InsidePo! - Appleseed AlleyThe Nivens - YesterdaySt. Christopher - All OF A TrembleThe Ogdens - Rachel Put Your Arms About MeDevine & Statton - Under The WeatherThe Love Parade - Under The WeatherTreebound Story - Swimming In The Heart Of JaneSt. James Infirmary - Terry Marriagehead
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 4 March 2023 19:10 (one year ago) link
Nice! Looks like wilfullyobscure inspired the third one (at least)
Not sure if I quite grasp the thread revival
Sorry, to clarify I was providing a personal status update given my previous revive here.
― Evan, Sunday, 5 March 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link
Well, to answer your previous revive -- yes, I am still very strongly into this music and listen to it frequently.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 5 March 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link
Awesome.
Boy I got so overwhelmed by the innocent top 10 indie pop question, I've been putting it off...
Going to pivot and mention some recent favorite 45s:
Majestic 12 - Lost & FoundMy Favorite - The Informers & UsTizzy - New JerseyMoped - Naked, Sharp & PlasticSnog 6 - Start All Over Again (CD EP)Sammy - Neptune Ave. (Ortho Hi Rise)The Someloves - Know You NowLenola - Oh Yes, Jeep Is Good! (more in the indie-noise-shoegaze camp)Number One Cup - Malcolm's X-Ray Picnic Bubby Girl - Coyote Spindle Solar Coaster - Zero Sum / KarmageddonHopper - WastedLKWRM - Thirty Years Of Concentrated Thought (CD EP)The Pennikurvers - The Pennikurvers Clag - Manufacturing ResentMadison Electric - Heavy Petal The Cherry Smash - West Coast Rip-Off New Sweet Breath - Silka Charlotte Hatherley - SummerBomb Pops – Girl Daredevil + Riverside
― Evan, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
Long shot - does anyone have digital rips of anything the label Bliss Aquamarine released?
― Evan, Monday, 6 March 2023 16:25 (one year ago) link
It's always seemed to me that there was an "indiepop revival" around say 2008, and indeed that much of the current / subsequent idea of "indiepop" was actually crystallised then, retrospectively streamlining much of what had happened originally.
The prevalence of "popfests" for several years (plus Indietracks) around that period would support this view.
I also have the sense that this then flowed into some kind of dreampop that was possibly 80s-revivalist viz. Wild Nothing (who when I saw them live were not very different from a guitar-based indie band - but this is as long ago as 2010).
Whether there has been yet another wave of indiepop revivalism I don't know - rather, I suspect that C21 culture has "kept everything in play", permanently available.
― the pinefox, Monday, 6 March 2023 18:31 (one year ago) link
Hey check out my stellar thread-relevant haul yesterday at the shop I used to manage (I am in the US):
Hood - I've Forgotten How To LiveJuno - Magnified And Reduced By Inches / Pablo Y ZeldaFertile Virgin - Lucky Day14 Iced Bears - World I LoveTompot Blenny - Thinking Of Ways Of Keeping You WarmTrembling Blue Stars - The RainbowSt. Christopher - All Of A TrembleThe Sweetest Ache - I Remember CarolineStrawberry Story - Small & Slightly Rounded EPVarious - Joe FridayThe Some Loves - It's My TimeThe Melons - Strictly Melonhead EPThe Melons - Fast LaneEye Pilgrims / Choo Choo Train - Wall Of Sand / Many Happy Returns
Not bad for ~$55 total, right?
― Evan, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link
Anyway... anyone have any good leads for some obscure "classic" indie cassette compilation uploads? I've been hunting the web and it's tougher than I'd thought! Not to dismiss the great stuff I AM finding but just as often I'll learn of compilations that don't seem to exist digitally on soulseek or blogs or archive.org etc. yet. Or, I'll remain puzzled at the absence of any blogs dedicated to that "scene" of DIY and/or small label cassettes (with downloads). It would seem like one of those things a fan like myself with access would have done by now.
― Evan, Friday, 17 March 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
Have a gander at the things on here that aren't the NME tapes (actually the NME tapes are largely excellent but they are mostly outside the rubric of this thread): https://pressplayandrecord.wordpress.com/
I found this by searching for two old tapes whose names stuck in my head: Abigail's Birthday Party and Plinky Plonky There's a Donkey. For shame.
― Tim, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:18 (one year ago) link
Ha! I can see why they stuck... thanks!
― Evan, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:24 (one year ago) link
You're welcome. There are some good things on those tapes but if you emerge from listening to them and find yourself agreeing with the thread title, you're made from stronger stuff than I am.
― Tim, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:25 (one year ago) link
I have a high tolerance for messy experimental throwaway if there's at least something to grab onto. Could just be atmosphere, or the extra-musical context of the tape aesthetic. The lows emphasize the highs along the journey, too. It all contributes to an audio ransom note of pop experiments with punk spirit.
― Evan, Friday, 17 March 2023 17:41 (one year ago) link
pinefox I'm sorry to have passed over your post above!
You're probably right. I remember 2004-06 the trend in indie circles was bombast and post-rock/emo melodrama with elaborate post-twee instrumentation. Classic indie-pop was all about the ingredients of punk with a pop approach, so it would make sense that this would come back when there was a need for the pendulum to swing back in the other direction. But the 80s revival was certainly extremely popular too so yeah that focus got mixed in.
― Evan, Friday, 24 March 2023 19:00 (one year ago) link