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I've been listening to "The wrong road" ever since I heard of his death. That's one of his most beautiful songs I think, very sad and shimmering.

And "Bachelor kisses" is as close to the Perfect Pop Song you can get.

Hanna (Hanna), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm listening to the 16Lovers Lane Demos this morning..
"And don't the sun look good to-day..."

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link

"Boundary Rider" off Ocean's Apart is one of his best.

TRG (TRG), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm taking some comfort from the aptly titled "No Reason To Cry."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Nobody has mentioned 'You Won't Find it Again' a truly over-looked gem from the 16 Lovers Lane era. I'm always floored every time I hear that song.

csbx, Monday, 8 May 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I love that song, especially when the second guitar comes in.

Anyone own the 2-disc version of Horsebreaker Star? About 6 songs were trimmed for its U.S. release. Listening to it in the car last night I was struck by how every song - no question – works on its own terms. What a songwriter.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Couldn't agree more about "Boundary Rider." He never lost the magic.

mr. jimmerson, Monday, 8 May 2006 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link


does anyone have "the man who died in rapture"? I've never heard it, and would like to.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Noticed today that the Go-Betweens page on the Beggars Banquet site has posted a free MP3 of Grant's song "Fingers" off his "Fireboy" solo album. I'd forgotten about that tune; it's especially touching given the circumstances.

http://www.beggars.com/banquet/index.htm

Guthrie's Caretaker, Monday, 8 May 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

For old time's sake, I'll still have to pick "Apology Accepted" as my favourite of all.

But "Finding You" from Oceans Apart is the first one I picked when I heard the news.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

For old time's sake, I'll still have to pick "Apology Accepted" as my favourite of all.

A Lindy-confirmed story says that Grant actually started crying in the studio while recording the vocal take.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It's weird, I only just remembered it was him who did that one late last night. What a chorus.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

God, so many songs to choose from--

1. cattle and cane
2. right here
3. bye bye pride
4. unkind and unwise
5. love goes on
6. quiet heart
7. going blind
8. that way
9. two step, step out
10. easy come easy go

sheep sheet (serious sheet), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

"Unkind and Unwise" / "Cattle and Cane" / "Casanova's Last Words" / "Emperor's Courtesan" / "Dusty In Here" / "Secondhand Furniture" / "Apology Accepted" / "Hope Then Strife" from the first few years alone...

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I put on Tallulah when I got home - but then I decided Friends of Rachel Worth was what I really wanted to hear. Magic in Here & The Clock were sounding very appropriate tonight.

This is turning out to be like Phil Hartman for me. Getting weirder as the hours go by.

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Monday, 8 May 2006 23:54 (seventeen years ago) link

i know it's an easy choice but "cattle & cane"'s 11/8 rhythm (i think) which drives the whole song.

i saw barbara manning cover this a trillion years ago and i had to find out who it was.

here's the original video:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZCbyByY-A6w

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

went home last night and made a playlist of my fave mclennan tunes and it made for some fine listening. I've always leaned towards Forster but hearing these songs on their own made it clear what Grant's strengths were/are: total emotional honesty and swoon inducing melodies. a good combination. anyway, here's the playlist...
Cattle And Cane
Bachelor Kisses
Dusty In Here
Right Here
That Way
Five Words
Boundary Rider
In The Core Of A Flame
Quiet Heart
Poison In The Walls
Streets of Your Town
The Wrong Road
Love Goes On!
No Reason To Cry
Unkind & Unwise
The Devil's Eye
Old Mexico
Apology Accepted
Bye Bye Pride
This Girl Black Girl

Tyler W (tylerw), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

He wrote so many amazing songs... but for me "Right Here" has to be no. 1. It's one of those songs where everything just comes together, like "Beyond Belief" or "Emma's House" -- it's impossible to imagine anyone writing it, each note follows the previous one so inescapably. At least it has that effect on me. I'm describing it badly, maybe. I'm a bit overcome.

Pessimist, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, I'm the one who, too quick on the trigger, mentioned "Love is a Sign." But then, I misremembered "Second Hand Furniture" as being Forster's. I do actually own these records . . .

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

He was a truly great songwriter. After listening to most of The Go-Between albums at least twice over the last few days, I come back to the songs that have impacted on me most:

1. In the core of a flame ("If the devil had seen your dress ...")
2. Was there anything I could do? ("If you spend your life looking behind you, you don't see what's upfront")
3. Finding you

Rod Brown, Friday, 12 May 2006 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll never be able to pick a favorite, as my favorites are always changing - but I love the rise in key at the end of Bye Bye Pride:
"Stride over stride
Walk to that tide
Bye Bye Pride
Because the door is open wide"

dave's good arm (facsimile) (dave225.3), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

So hard to pick favourites, but here goes! - From Grant's solo albums

Lighting Fires, Riddle in the Rain, What Went Wrong (Both Versions), Keep My Word, Fingers, Haven't I Been a Fool, Ice in Heaven, Room for Skin, Things Will Change, One Plus One, Easy Come, Easy Go ...

... And Go-Betweens
Was There Anything I Could Do?, Streets of Your Town, Bachelor Kisses, Streets of Your Town, The Wrong Road, Love Goes On, That Way, Catle and Cane, Quiet Heart ...

Peter Bauckham, Friday, 12 May 2006 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Wait: two versions of "What Went Wrong"??

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 May 2006 14:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Found the video for Right Here (with Grant seemingly in a Bonds chesty t-shirt) on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqtTd_0oFU4

(Warning: this video contains Robert Forster's Tallulah-era mullet)

The Notorious ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The following seems more appropriate for this than the RIP thread, but at the same time this really isn't about Grant's songs per se. One of my favorite Australian CDs for years has been the Andrew Wilson compilation Amateurism which seems like a convergence of sorts. It collects material from four Wilson bands, which featured Grant, Lindy, Steve Miller (Moodists), the McCombs (Triffids), and others. Forster wrote the (humorous) liner notes and David Nichols released it. But perhaps my favorite bit about the whole thing, and a little known Grant fact, is that he appeared playing bass under the name Candice!

The following goes into more detail:

Andrew Wilson - Amateurism 1980-87 - CD
1. playing around 2. theme from 'four gods'-the movie 3. belmondo 4. enchanted house 5. restless 6. when daddy blows his top 7. out of your shell 8. soul too sold 9. a fact unknown 10. under the wings of 11. you should be shot 12. like in salem 13. good things 14. belmondo (live) 15. leave the house 16. in the orchard 17. after the accident 18. then I lost

The following is the press release for the release of Andrew Wilson's "Amateurism 1980-87", released Feb. 1 1999.
ANDREW WILSON. amateurism 1980-87 CD. Cat#: CH 28. 1981 (BRISBANE, QUEENSLAND): Andrew Wilson's first band, the four gods, released the final single (to date) on the Able Label, famous for releasing the first two Go-betweens singles "Lee Remick" and "People Say" (as well as the Apartments' classic debut single, "The Return Of The Hypnotist" and the Numbers/Riptides' "Sunset Strip"). The band as it appeared on record included Lindy Morrison on drums and Grant McLennan (masquerading as 'Candice') on bass. 1983 (SYDNEY, NEW SOUTH WALES): The frontier scouts, Andrew's next band, released a single and a 12" EP, both on the Au-go-go label. David McComb of the Triffids contributed some feedback guitar. 1987 (MELBOURNE, VICTORIA): For Andrew's last recorded project so far, he gathered a group of friends to release an 12" EP under the name Andrew Wilson and associates, featuring Robert McComb of the Triffids, Steve Miller of the Moodists, Nigel Harford of White Cross and others. This was released on the Melbourne label Crash. These four Andrew Wilson artifacts are compiled on Chapter Music's new CD, amateurism 1980-87, along with a handful of live and rehearsal tapes by the four gods and the frontier scouts. Robert Forster of the Go-betweens has written charming and nostalgic liner notes. David Nichols, drummer for Chapter Music recording artists Driving Past, tracked Andrew down when doing research for his book The Go-betweens published by Allen & Unwin in 1997. It was then that he dreamt up the idea of this compilation, and convinced the modest Wilson to go along with the it. Andrew Wilson is a lost hero of Australian music, a truly gifted but unheralded songwriter. Amateurism is an invaluable document of Australia's long-neglected pop music history - intelligent, emotional and compelling. This is the first in Chapter Music's series of Australian Archival Reissues, focusing on independent, underground music of the last twenty years.

From: http://www.geocities.com/~jbulow/LIST_GOB.HTM

Worth seeking out if you like Send Me a Lullaby and Before Hollywood.

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 13 May 2006 01:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup, owned it for years now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 01:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Haha, I figured you probably did!

TRG (TRG), Saturday, 13 May 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

Listening to Horsebreaker Star this morning (an ideal 10 am album, by the way), I was struck by how great "Simone & Perry" is. For years my suspicion that sounds as if if could have played over the "Party of Five" credits in 1995, and the "Hold on to what you got" hook struck me as too easy. But the song builds to that line; it's earned. The he-said-she-said dialogue structure works well too.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 10 August 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

*or, rather "For years my suspicion that it sounds as if if could have played over the "Party of Five" credits in 1995 prevented me from appreciating it..."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 10 August 2008 20:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I really don't know anything about McLennan solo, never listen to his half of Intermission because it didn't grab me immediately, but I keep meaning to get back to it.

Of course there are so many excellent Go-Betweens songs by Grant. River of Money, though - surely the most underrated McLennan composition? The band at their rawest and most elemental, a really atypical song. It's probably better than the songs on SHF, Tallulah and 16LL that are considered among their best but suffer from the fake drum sound. Yet you hardly ever hear anyone talking about it. It surprises me that they stumbled on a sound that really suited them but never really went down that road again. Then again I suppose in the shadow of Cattle and Cane's brilliance a lot of beautiful Go-Betweens songs that would be considered the pinnacle of any other band's career become also-rans.

verhexen, Sunday, 10 August 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

"In Your Bright Ray" could be a song about the effect his music has on his listeners. This song makes me feel like anything is possible, it's so incredibly uplifting without any vague insincerity that often accompanies these types of songs.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 12 September 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

By far the best song on that record too.

vulva eyes (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 September 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I recall a schoolboy coming home
Through fields of cane
To a house of tin and timber
And in the sky
A rain of falling cinders
From time to time the waste
Memory wastes

I recall a boy in bigger pants
Like everyone
Just waiting for a chance
His father's watch
He left it in the showers
From time to time the waste
Memory wastes

I recall a bigger brighter world
A world of books
And silent times in thought
And then the railroad
The railroad takes him home
Through fields of cattle
Through fields of cane
From time to time the waste
Memory wastes
And the waste
Memory wastes

I recall the same
A reply
A plan you once had
From time down to mine
That time was bad
So I knew where I was
Alone and so at home

Further, longer, higher
Further, longer, it's getting higher
Further, longer...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 12 January 2013 07:05 (eleven years ago) link

six years pass...

You should do his solo stuff, which is often just as good (and sometimes better).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 18 January 2019 03:07 (five years ago) link

Love that you have Apology Accepted so high on the list.

that's not my post, Friday, 18 January 2019 05:12 (five years ago) link

and "You Won't Find it Again"!

resident hack (Simon H.), Friday, 18 January 2019 05:19 (five years ago) link

Those songs kill me

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 January 2019 12:11 (five years ago) link

<3 The Statue

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 18 January 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link

That riff running beneath and through it...

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:06 (five years ago) link

good call on "a bad debt follows you." i always feel like that one gets overlooked because it's so short.

harvey wall/barrier (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link

The "you told me skies could fall" section = A+

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 January 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link


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