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Glorious mono, as God intended!

polyphonic (polyphonic), Sunday, 19 November 2006 09:27 (seventeen years ago) link

is that a joke? b/c stereo should always sound better/fuller right, so is it just poor/different mixing of the stereo recording in this case and you really just end up with 2 incomparable things. at any rate, the mono sounds better to me and i don't really care. and this album is v. good! i can totally see why it was not popular - it is very personal shit and has a bizarrely serious seriously bizarre energy...and then its scary b/c they sound like the band Chicago.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Sunday, 19 November 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
These undead cats are on tour right now. Who's going? They kinda ripped it at ATP fest a couple years back.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Finally got the "Live at the BBC" comp. I worship it.

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 00:17 (seventeen years ago) link

stereo should always sound better/fuller right

not always right because (a) a lot of recordings from the '60s and before were originally recorded/mixed with a mono product in mind, and stereo mixes created after the fact often rely on some cheesy, unnatural-sounding processing, and (b) some people just plain like the sound of everything piled together into one glorious mono blob. either way you're coloring the sound; it's just a question of which way you prefer it to be colored.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 00:28 (seventeen years ago) link

if something was recorded to be mono, it should stay mono. fake stereo mixes of this sort of thing sound unbalanced and washed out

jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 00:31 (seventeen years ago) link

The box set is the best music purchase I've ever made.

Kate Silver (Kate Silver), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 04:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I have the Zombies box set on display. Not on a shelf or in a drawer, but face out so the world can see.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago) link

I have GOT to get that. Thanks for reminding me, ILM.

sleeve (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I downloaded the whole box, but I don't listen to anything but Odyssey, really. What are the other highlights?

So weit wie knock-kneed (kenan), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 05:34 (seventeen years ago) link

the rest of it!

All of disc 1 and everything on disc 2 that's not Odessey at least.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 06:44 (seventeen years ago) link

two months pass...
Okay, so I'm finally making a point of picking up all the canonized/classic albums that I've been putting off, and the Zombies are next- so tell me, which version of Odessey and Oracle should I get? Fuel/Universal, Big Beat, or Repertoire? This is driving me nuts.

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I posted this on the San Fran thread, but i saw them on tour and it was great.

SusanD, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:13 (seventeen years ago) link

do they all have the mono Telephone? i def. think is it worth it to get the mono versions

SusanD, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure, actually- if any of them exclude the mono mixes in favor of stereo then they're definitely out.

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago) link

BOX SET

David R., Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

YES YOU NEED 20 VERSIONS OF "SHE'S NOT THERE" AND THE BUNNY LAKE PROMOS

BOX SET

David R., Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i have an old 2 LP thing called "Time of the Zombies" that is a good overview. Found it for pretty cheap.

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

"Tell Her No" vs. "She's Not There"

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Former.

David R., Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link

for me too

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

me too

SusanD, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:37 (seventeen years ago) link

i have an old 2 LP thing called "Time of the Zombies" that is a good overview. Found it for pretty cheap.

that's a good set! disc 2 is the entirety of odessey and oracle. disc 1 is the earlier hits plus lots of other goodies.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

man i love the zombies

deej, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

no wai, 'she's not there' is the second-best pop song of all time, 'tell her no' is weak indie soup comparatively

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"Tell Her No" is sumptuous.

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

yes compared to just about anything else but 'she's not there' sets the bar pretty high yo.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:46 (seventeen years ago) link

She's Not There >>>>>> Tell Her No, easily.

After a bit of research, it looks like the Big Beat reissue has the full album in both mono and stereo, so it seems settled. The Fuel reissue is more recent and allegedly remastered, and has more bonus tracks, but the bonus tracks seem like they're mostly outtakes and works in progress, the kind of stuff I end up listening to maybe once a year at the most.

Telephone thing, Thursday, 12 April 2007 03:38 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

The booklet in my copy of the boxset has detached from the spine of the box. :(

David R., Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link

it has turned into crystal..

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Wrong band.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

(!)

Mark G, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you calling me an anus?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Bummer In the Summer

Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 October 2008 13:14 (fifteen years ago) link

The Velveteen Rabbit Box Set?

the higgs, Wednesday, 15 October 2008 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Every week I like to pick up an album by a band I've never heard before. Last week it was Pere Ubu, this week The Zombies. Although I might have made the mistake of buying a copy lacking the mono versions. Doh!

AnotherDeadHero, Saturday, 20 March 2010 11:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Next week: Red Aunts, motherfucker!

Armchair Crab (staggerlee), Saturday, 20 March 2010 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

oddessey & oracle = perfect summer record

lukevalentine, Sunday, 21 March 2010 06:34 (fourteen years ago) link

wow, i am drunk. i meant to say "spring." I listen to it every spring, anyway.

hell, it's perfect any time of year

lukevalentine, Sunday, 21 March 2010 06:35 (fourteen years ago) link

"Odessey & Oracle" plus "The Decca Stereo Anthology" contain absolutely everything anyone would ever need by The Zombies.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 21 March 2010 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah Geir you said that 3 years ago.

Moka, Sunday, 21 March 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I have proof.

Moka, Sunday, 21 March 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I found out too......

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 21 March 2010 23:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I would search out "R.I.P.", their final album which never actually got a proper release (though all the tracks are available on the aforementioned box set and there's a Japanese CD release too). "I'll Call You Mine" is maybe my favorite song they ever recorded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAxZqr0XYHs

Contemplative Punk (jamescobo), Monday, 22 March 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Man this is great for all kinds of reasons including - Schlitz breakfast of champions sweater / cameraman vs pillar FITE / pretty french girls in sequined dresses dancing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eExAFAxZJxE

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 4 July 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

What's the song out now that samples "She's Not There"? I heard it in the car today, first time. More interesting than particularly good. (Google gave me an Eminem song, but this was a woman.)

clemenza, Monday, 14 July 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link

Black Hippy "Rolling Stone"

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 14 July 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

Oh nevermind that samples Time of the Season.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 14 July 2014 01:00 (nine years ago) link

If that's new, that's got to be it--I just got the two mixed up, I think. Thanks.

clemenza, Monday, 14 July 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link

I consider myself a fan and have Zombie Heaven and Odyssey and I have no idea what this "Hold Your Head Up" song you guys are talking about is. weird.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

not going to post the video in this thread, but it's been a classic rock radio staple for decades, you've certainly heard it. it's not a zombies song but white/argent wrote it

budo jeru, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

Interestingly, at the show I saw, Argent prefaced the song by saying "a lot of people think I wrote this, but it was actually Chris White". They are both officially credited, though.

JRN, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

yeah that was cool. i also lol'd when rod said something like, "i've been performing this song for a number of years. for some reason, people seem to think the lyrics are 'hold your head up, woah!' actually the lyrics are 'hold your head up, WOMAN.' so, if you're going to sing along -- and we really hope you do -- for god's sake, get it right."

budo jeru, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

Verbatim here, and probably everywhere, iirc, since they've been doing the same exact setlist for a couple of years.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link

Man, that reminds me--Rod Argent is 71, and still shredding on the keyboards, while playing just about the whole show standing up. That was something to see.

JRN, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:23 (six years ago) link

Do keyboard players tend to lose dexterity as they age? I would imagine so, and maybe Argent has, but I couldn't tell.

JRN, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

Aside: Great article from last year about the group that toured the US as the Zombies to cash in on their success. Included 2/3 of ZZ Top!

https://www.buzzfeed.com/danielralston/the-true-story-of-the-fake-zombies-the-strangest-con-in-rock?utm_term=.it8GBR9V9b#.uvYAWMYeYq

andrew m., Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:26 (six years ago) link

which, as the article explains (though i've read this elsewhere on some zombies fan site), led the zombies to record their great lost album, unreleased until 2012 i think.

anybody have an opinion on "rip" ? it's one of those things (like the vu quine tapes) that i keep thinking i'll buy but never do.

budo jeru, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link

thanks for that youtube clip upthread. i've always loved that song and that 'era' of the zombies but hadn't seen that video before. plus, i never realized what a tall drink of water blunstone used to be.

dynamicinterface, Thursday, 20 April 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link

just came back from seeing the Zombies at the Grammy Museum, in a small theater there. It was about an hour and forty minutes, the first hour being an interview with Colin, Rod, Chris, and Hugh, and the remainder being a set of Zombie songs (including a pair of new ones, which I thought were a cut below but performed with a lot of joy that was infectious.) This set was just Rod on piano and Colin singing, which was remarkable. He can still belt it out at 71. They played about ten songs, i think. Such legends.

nomar, Friday, 28 April 2017 06:08 (six years ago) link

wow

Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 April 2017 03:24 (six years ago) link

six months pass...

i did not know that...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvuOs7o944

scott seward, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

would have thought all the ilx chillwavers would have hepped me to this fact. i have been playing old prefab a TON recently.

scott seward, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

holy shit, that's really good. not a reimagination as much as a perfect match.

drejelire, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

Picked up Time of The Zombies, a double LP comp Epic put together in the '70s. The second side is a bunch of stuff slated for RIP (post O & O sessions w/Argent & White), and almost all new to me. It's like The Left Banke if they'd been grownups.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link

Sounds tempting

curmudgeon, Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

Can’t check now but I think all of that is on the Zombie Heaven box

rob, Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

Zombie Heaven has everything from the '60s. RIP itself finally came out in the 2000s.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

Time of the Zombies is so great, plus you get all of O&O in it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

I thought Heaven had a bunch of post O&O stuff on it and comparing track lists on discogs it sure she seems like all of Time is on Heaven but maybe I’m misunderstanding you

rob, Sunday, 27 September 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

Bad phrasing on my part. Zombie Heaven is their complete recordings (all of which were made in the '60s) RIP was later broken off as its own individual release a few years later.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

...and apparently a bundle of recordings not included in the box were released as Into The Afterlife in 2007.

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link


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