Judee Sill

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Guilty. But the records are great. Haven't heard Tommy Peltier's Chariot of Astral Light, which she's on as well.

Brakhage (brakhage), Sunday, 13 November 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
I can't stop listening to her.

Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 26 February 2006 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

that's some pretty nifty drumming Kevin Kelley does on That's The Sprit - not anything like his Byrds work (country drumming is sort of restrictive)

Anyway, she's the tops, easily one of my top 5 favorite artists, and I've only been listening to her for less than 9 months.

timmy tannin (pompous), Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

she's neat.

Autonomous University of Zacatecas (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 26 February 2006 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link

the wife just watched one of the worst movies ever made and there were two covers of Jesus was a Crossmaker on it. one by the hollies and one by Rachel Yamagata.

also, The Donor is one of the fucking raddest songs ever.

team jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

does she have anything else that layered and heady?

team jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll take you to the mat over Elizabethtown, man. I love that movie.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link

worstest dude, worstest

team jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 26 February 2006 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I want to like her more, but her songs seem a bit too clever for their own good (ie too many melodies.) Granted I should probably go back for another listen, I do remember there being some gems on the first album.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 26 February 2006 06:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"thats the spirit" and the next song on dreams come true are great. all three albums are pretty incredible - she's definitely my favorite "discovery" of 2005. has anyone heard any of the album(s) where she guest-appeared? i know theres at least one...

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Sunday, 26 February 2006 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link

wtf is with rhino handmade releasing these "limited edition--never again available $$$$$$" cds and then the licensing is handed over a mere one or two years later to some other label? no one is ever going to buy anything from them again.

amateurist0, Sunday, 26 February 2006 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link

sill is crap. do you also enjoy james taylor, joan baez, and joni mitchell? you should then.

corey c (shock of daylight), Sunday, 26 February 2006 08:37 (eighteen years ago) link

While her arrangments are straightforward and her voice is sweet, her records have this undercurrent of masochism that put her as close to Leonard Cohen and Lee Hazelwood as Joni Mitchell. I'm sure I'd heard the Hollies' version of "Jesus Was a Crossmaker" a dozen times, but it never resonated. I only recently heard Sill's- and I've been transfixed ever since. She's sort of a like Karen Carpenters bad-girl sister- still trapped in a scene and a role that doesn't suit her, but that pathos comes through.

bendy (bendy), Sunday, 26 February 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago) link

sill is crap. do you also enjoy james taylor, joan baez, and joni mitchell? you should then.

actually, i do. have fun listening to limp bizkit.

team jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

that's some pretty nifty drumming Kevin Kelley does on That's The Sprit - not anything like his Byrds work (country drumming is sort of restrictive)

-- timmy tannin (timmytanni...), Yesterday 8:28 PM. (pompous)

OTM, they way he controls the (muliple) tempos of that song is great.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 26 February 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I find Judee Sill kind of overrated, but not near as bad as a james taylor or joen baez.

I do enjoy Joni Mitchell, esp. Hissing of Summer Lawns.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 27 February 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Joni Mitchell and Joan Baez, yes.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:34 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
someone who posts here, and on this thread, reviewed the Judee reissues today. Good reviews, but you're WAY off about DREAMS COME TRUE
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/s/sill_judee/judee-sill-heart-food.shtml

timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 24 March 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Why are these being reviewed now?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

pfork in being behind teh curve shockah.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

i agree re: dreams come true. the first two songs on DCT are two of my favorite JS songs, for sure. i think that was the only thing about dom's review that i disagreed with, though.

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

oh wait yeah - two more things. i disagreed about the spelling of carole king's name, and also JONI MITCHELL IS SO MUCH MORE THAN PROTO-ADULT-CONTEMP.

but these are trifling matters. awesome piece, DL.

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.webnoir.com/bob/music/

whatever (boglogger), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah...i am quite fond of the dreams come true sessions. considering the tracks weren't completely finished, i think they sound great and the songs themselves are worthy. sure, there's no -the kiss- or -jesus was a crossmaker,- but whatever.

for those completely obsessed with sill, that tommy peltier disc that came out last year is pretty good. her contributions aren't too overwhelming, but it's nice stuff.

crumsho (clikatowi), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah whatever - that demo page is AWESOME

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Friday, 24 March 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Pitchfork reviewed 'em because they were recently reissued by Water records. The Rhino Handmade ones sold out mid-last year.

Brooker Buckingham (Brooker B), Saturday, 25 March 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...

so, there's a new Judee Sill release! Live recordings from BBC sessions, on Water. picked it up last weekend -- great stuff, even better than the live stuff that was on the Rhino CD of the first album.

Her guitar playing really sounds great on "There's a Rugged Road" and ditto her piano on "Enchanted Sky Machines". there's a funny moment in an interview with a BBC dude who asks if she's enjoying playing European venues, and Sill says "What's a venue?" also a sweet part where she says she misses her basset hound.

anyone else pick this up?

Stormy Davis, Friday, 22 June 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Yep, got it in mail the other day. Sounds really good, tho hearing those between song talks sheds as much light on JS as the songs do to me

Dominique, Friday, 22 June 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Just got the BBC disc in the mail this morning. Stunning from the outset.

fukasaku tollbooth, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Voxtrot's new album has a song about Judee Sill called "Real Live Version". I have mixed feelings about it, but ultimately I think I may like that at least someone tried to write a song about her. Any other examples?

oo, Sunday, 2 September 2007 22:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Jackie Leven, 'The Silver In Her Crucifix,' from his fine 2007 album 'Oh What A Blow That Phantom Dealt Me.'

Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Monday, 3 September 2007 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

Was listening to that BBC session earlier, when she introduces The Kiss as "a new song I finished a few weeks ago", wow... that's intense beautiful. Like Dominique said, you can tell by those talks she wasn't really kidding around.

Apparently there's a Tommy Peltier record called Chariot of Astral Light which supposedly features Sill, anyone heard it?

sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

the harmonies in "my man on love" are wacky; love it.

not everything is a campfire (ian), Monday, 9 August 2010 03:14 (thirteen years ago) link

Her voice can make me cry sometimes.

Trip Maker, Monday, 9 August 2010 03:15 (thirteen years ago) link

three years pass...

can someone tell me where is this song from originally?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Y1YimQa5U

nostormo, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

there's a couple of songs on that comp that were based on unrecorded sheet music

Number None, Monday, 21 October 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link

thanks

nostormo, Monday, 21 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

why was i not told about this artist

Treeship, Saturday, 9 April 2016 05:31 (eight years ago) link

listening to "heart food" over and over. saving the s/t for tomorrow.

Treeship, Saturday, 9 April 2016 05:31 (eight years ago) link

oh wow i'm jealous. she's literally the greatest

J. Sam, Saturday, 9 April 2016 05:38 (eight years ago) link

♥Judee♥

Austin, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I also discovered her pretty recently. Incredible.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

I cry almost every time I hear the bridge on "The Kiss." This brief set from '73 is a little rough but endearing: http://youtu.be/AnVa2GK3_T8

one way street, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link

this performance of "the kiss" is sublime

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0feFedDW_iQ

map, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:54 (eight years ago) link

Treeship, seek out Sybille Baier next for extra joy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY_F0mPq7ec&feature=youtu.be

clog dabussy (fgti), Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

^^^ otm. Also, Connie Converse doesn't sound much like Sill or Baier, but as she has a similar quality of being both eccentric and uncomfortably emotionally direct.

one way street, Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

long time judee fan

i always thought her first record was way better than her second

have a first pressing of it in near mint condition

she was one wacky lady which adds to the allure

F♯ A♯ (∞), Monday, 11 April 2016 17:17 (eight years ago) link

One thing that's amazing about her live is that the records have a lot of enhancements and overdubs, yet she manages to get the same level of intensity with just her voice and a guitar or piano.

human life won't become a cat (man alive), Monday, 11 April 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

ya'll like mary mccaslin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnEXe2gGU94

ian, Monday, 11 April 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

I really, really like that LP ("Way Out West") but haven't heard or got around to hearing any others. Where next with Mary?

Tim, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 11:08 (eight years ago) link

"Emerald River Dance" tears my heart in half every time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzs_QXTisyA

Soundslike, Sunday, 3 October 2021 23:50 (two years ago) link

Apart from Dreams Come True, there's demos, alternates, and live tracks found on the CD reissues. It can all be found on Abracadabra, The Asylum Years. There's one outtake, "The Desperado," from Heart Food. Vinyl nerds can find these tracks on the Songs of Rapture and Redemption 2lp set. I'm glad I have these different versions but I never find myself reaching for them.

Live In London: The BBC Recordings is pretty good.

Chariot Of Astral Light by Tommy Peltier features Judee on some songs and while it's not bad, it does feel like the bottom of the barrel. There's a nice interview with Tommy where he talks about his relationship with Judee. I should give it another chance.

Cow_Art, Monday, 4 October 2021 04:25 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

That judee sill documentary I helped out on (as music supervisor) is nearly done https://t.co/onbJqaaoD4

— Pat Thomas (@PatThomas1964) July 2, 2022

dow, Sunday, 3 July 2022 03:40 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

Guardian article on the new Judee Sill documentary, including a teaser trailer

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Thursday, 24 November 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

five months pass...

Is it easy to see this doc?

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 04:30 (eleven months ago) link

Just saw a young charming singer who grew up a block away from where I live who did a Judee Sill cover- while wearing a picture of Dolly Parton hanging around her neck, who she also covered- and it was great! Actually did two Judee Sill covers along with two Roches covers. Can’t now recall what the first Judee Sill tune she did was, the second was “Enchanted Sky Machines.”

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 04:37 (eleven months ago) link

That’s my kinda show

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 30 April 2023 13:26 (eleven months ago) link

I wish it had been recorded.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 14:20 (eleven months ago) link

One of The Roches covers was “The Hammond Song.”

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 14:21 (eleven months ago) link

I had been hoping a Martha Wainwright song would be played but added “or a song by someone related to her” and The Roches sort of count, do u see?

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 14:22 (eleven months ago) link

I didn’t even tell you about the sing-a-long encores of “Do Right Woman, Do Right Man” and the Tapestry version of “You’ve Got A Friend.”

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:09 (eleven months ago) link

What's her name?

dow, Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:21 (eleven months ago) link

Ali Dineen. Think she has maybe one album and a few other things out now. They seem pretty good but the live experience was really something extra.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

3) The artist behind this song is the phenomenally talented Ali Dineen.
I was her 7th grade English teacher.
So imagínate how proud I am.

— Lin-Manuel Miranda (@Lin_Manuel) February 8, 2017

curmudgeon, Sunday, 30 April 2023 18:58 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, apparently she went to Hunter, I guess.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:06 (eleven months ago) link

I’m kind of equally if not more impressed that she has the likes of Richie Barshay playing gigs with her.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:13 (eleven months ago) link

Also, there's some kind of folksy scene at a place called Jalopy House in Brooklyn that I never heard of that she seems to be associated with, some other people from that place made the journey last night from their borough to ours.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link

This may give you an idea about the vibe:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CVWjK25jcdu/

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 May 2023 17:51 (eleven months ago) link

Also, there's some kind of folksy scene at a place called Jalopy House in Brooklyn that I never heard of that she seems to be associated with, some other people from that place made the journey last night from their borough to ours.

― Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, April 30, 2023 2:24 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Jalopy Theater? A lot of their programming seems a little like folk music cosplay to me, like people who exactly replicate the Sun country sound or do 60s western swing or spot on piedmont blues or stuff like that. Curious to check her out though.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 1 May 2023 18:59 (eleven months ago) link

It seems like that, and maybe is like that, but what I have briefly experienced seemed to be at higher level.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 1 May 2023 19:26 (eleven months ago) link

eleven months pass...

Looks like the doc is finally streaming. The trailer makes it look like the kind of talking-head doc with contemporary luminaries talking about how much the subject influenced them, but I'll probably still watch it because it's Judee Sill.

o. nate, Friday, 12 April 2024 21:17 (four days ago) link

Its really great - there is loads of brilliant archive chat with Judee, some brilliant footage , plenty of scurrilous gossip. they do the annoying animation thing but it is based on her own illustrations so they get away with it. It packs a real emotional wallop. Think its the only time i have ever cried in a cinema.

cw, Saturday, 13 April 2024 14:14 (three days ago) link

Just finished watching. Animations, "handless" handwriting, relevant talking heads—all the music doc tropes of the last howevermany years—but I found it a pretty rich experience because the details of Judee's story were all kind of a blur in my mind, having read or picked up some things here and there over the years. It was nice to have it all in one place, crafted with love.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 14 April 2024 03:51 (two days ago) link


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