Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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Also, I really want to see this..

I do have to admit, I didn't get that excited about Closing of Winterland though. THen again, I watched it at like 3 in the morning a couple months ago when I was pretty wiped out. I'll give it another go.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a ridiculous Godchaux apologist, FWIW.

haven't tracked down that Arista set - 71, eh? I'm more a 72-77 kinda guy, but will check it out - thanks!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, a 72-77 guy! I'm impressed. I'm still trying to get with the Godchaux era. I think it will come to me in due time. Do you have that One From the Vault? That one's pretty good, as I recall.

Yeah, the Ladies and Gentlemen thing is '71 but it's pretty song-oriented. Sort of midway between the psychedelic blow-outs and the Europe '72 stuff. It's a nice, pleasant listen. GREAT version of "Bird Song".

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:42 (fifteen years ago) link

im a 73 guy and yah the new dvd is great!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:23 (fifteen years ago) link

ok, fuck it, Chaki I trust you.. I will watch it again!! It just kind of seemed goofy to me. With the whole dude riding in on a joint at the beginning of the concert. Like, you almost want to shake Bill Graham and the Dead and say, "the 60's are OVER!! Didn't you guys watch 'gimme shelter'??" Plus, the Godchaux. And "Fire on the Mountain" goes on entirely too long. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Dead, don't get me wrong, but that 'FOTM' just goes on too long, sorry. But I will check it out again, as I said...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm.. I just started watching it again, midway through the set. You know what? This version of "Friend of the Devil" is really kind of beautiful! Even Donna is kind of endearing right here! Mea culpa.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:45 (fifteen years ago) link

"Even Donna" - wtf?

Donna was probably just as proficient a musician as Phil Lesh (making her twice as proficient as Bob Weir) and an all around great, great vocalist. Her live performances were hit and miss due to lack of proper monitor support, everyone knows that.

She never gets a fair shake. It's not like she was Linda McCartney fer chrissakes.

The Godchauxes broght so much life (not to mention a a very vital jazz-informed musical eloquence) to The Dead. I love Pigpen and Mydland as much as the nxt guy, but the 70s are where it's AT because of Keith and Donna!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

two months pass...
Disk one of Vol. 23 rules. I have to admit, though, that the "China Cat Sunflower" / "I Know You Rider" medley gets sooo tiresome after listening to Dick's Picks.

Rocking the Rhein is good stuff as well.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

the "Dark Star" on Rockin' the Rhein is eyeball-melting

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought Dick's Picks 22 on a fleeting whim a few days ago.
I'm a little regretful of it now.
Feb '68 show at a Lake Tahoe bowling alley. Vocals are rarely audible (which I guess isn't always a bad thing, har har).
Now I'm wanting Rockin the Rhein.
I think I need a break from the Dead.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I just listened to Reckoning this past Friday night. Always a treat to pull that one out.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link

'Two From the Vault' is's mastered or mixed really well for headphones. And at the end of 'Morning Dew' the house pulls the electricity from them, great moment.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link

"It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense."

Au contraire. Au contraire.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

"The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time."

i take umbrage with this comment.
and so would CCR.

me rawk.
you snow.

eedd, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Regarding my last post, in case it's not clear, I mean to say that they SUCK LIVE. I don't get it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Blues for Allah is the best thing they ever did, according to me

Help/Slip/Frank rules

Jackson, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Donna's "soulful" scream at the end of "Scarlet Begonias" on Dick's Picks 7 is the most out-of-key singing I've heard on an officially released record.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:11 (fifteen years ago) link

apparently there's a letter to the editor in the new Arthur from me regarding The Dead, but i haven't seen it. i can't get it here

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:49 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
HELP - I'm visiting a well-stocked Deadhead (over 300 shows) who has kindly offered to let me borrow whatever I want from his stash - any suggestions as to what I shld look out for - keep in mind that I generally prefer Dead Stuff w/ LOTS of guitar solos, the freakier the better, and am less concerned abt 'songs' per se

Thank You

Uncle John, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
I just got this Jerry Garcia Band 3-CD Kean College set from 1980 that Rhino put out last fall. S'good! I'm just a dabbler in the Dead, but this is close to perfect -- nice sparse 4-piece, warmly recorded, the grooves don't overwhelm the songs and vice-versa -- I mean, the grooves are songlike, and the songs are groovelike. And maybe because he doesn't have to work to make himself heard, Jerry's playing is even more loose and gentle than usual. The solos are like barstool conversations. I think I'm going to be listening to this a lot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 January 2005 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yah that shit kicks ass

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:05 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...
May check out that Jerry band thing. Has anyone heard the No. 29 6CD thing from '77? Curious about that as well.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

One more chance at an answer re No. 29. I orderd the Jerry Band thing yesterday.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Not Dick's Picks, but...

Does this new version sound better:
Europe '72 Remastered with bonus tracks?

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Friday, 1 April 2005 15:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Mark, I haven't heard 29, but I've heard that show and it is extremely good, particularly if you like the 77-78 style. You really can't go wrong with any show from 5/77 if you like that stuff (I think that period is a little over-rated, but its good). I think the Dick's Picks from Englishtown, NJ in 9/77 (I think it's like no. 21 or something) is a better show, though, so if you want a 77 show, go with that. The 77 NYE show is also shit-hot. (I think that's in the teens somewhere).

And LS, Europe 72 sounds better (though the original still sounds fine to me) and the bonus tracks are worth it.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 1 April 2005 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks. I had heard Phils bass was too high in the mix or something on the reissue.

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Friday, 1 April 2005 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

It's higher, yeah. I guess whether it's too high is a matter of taste.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Friday, 1 April 2005 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks, Scott. Do love 77-78 era, & I like to see a "Scarlet-->Fire" in there somewhere, so maybe 29 is worth a shot (looks like it's the only one of the '77 Dick's Picks to have one).

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I just wanted to point out for people who still don't know it...

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON GREAT LIVE DEAD RECORDINGS. and Furthur both have plenty of 1st rate SOUNDBOARD and other high quality recordings.

Download these for starters FOR FREE:

1977-05-08 - "one of the best" (5/7 and 5/9 were good, too)

1972-05-26 - soundboard

1977-05-26 - (same month/day as above, but different year)

1977-11-06 - "one of he best"

1970-05-02 - Harpur College (hard to find, but available as a Dick's Pick if you can't find it as a free download)

1971-04-28(?) - Fillmore East

1971 - Port Chester

1969 - Ark

1973 - Pavillion

1978 - Red Rocks









Lots of these are available as soundboard (SBD), just look for it. The Soundboards from 77 were especially high quality.

Sorry the dates are not in chronological order, but I started out doing it highest quality first and then I just went through my discs and chose the best for sound quality and performance. The above represent a good many hours of great live Dead: flub-free, energetic and good singing.

... and YES, I did learn all about bold punctuation from comic books!

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:41 (fourteen years ago) link

dude you're paying for "dick's picks" though not full shows... no on could edit like dick.

charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The above shows don't need editing, IMO. Some shows do, plenty do not!

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 2 April 2005 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

... besides, aren't most Dick's Picks full shows? They're mostly 3 or 4 discers, which is inkeeping with those listed above. Some were highly circulated boots before they became Dick's Picks. I think a lot of what you're paying for is some remastering, but the free soundboard FLAC or SHN shows are so high-quality they often sound like official releases.

As far as paying $$...

I think "Go To Nassau" is just FANTASTIC! "Live Without A Net" is way overlooked, too, although I can see why people wouldn't like it. It grows on you, though.

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I totally left out some of the best quality I've found yet (Just downloaded recently and were in my bag):

1977-06-09 - soundboard
1977-02-26 - soundboard
1977-04-22 - soundboard
1969-02-22 - soundboard

all totally killer quality top notch, but I'm not familiar enough to tell apart the 77's yet. I think 06-09 is the one that really is blowing me away lately.

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Up above that should say "best quality I've found LATELY" (not "found yet").

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:30 (fourteen years ago) link

you are otm actually

charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 2 April 2005 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
Listening to a bunch of live Dead recently I've determined definitely my favorite eras in order of preference are:

'77 - '78
'69 - '70

I like the warmer, funkier mid-70s stuff more than the turn of the '70s acid, I guess. Curious if there is anything in the '80s that might interest me. Downloaded a couple of supposedly great shows from '79 and Jerry was already sounding pretty rough.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 November 2005 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Looks like you can't download shows from anymore.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Anybody else picked up this Rare Cuts and Oddities: 1966 thing that they are selling at ??

It's incredible: early Dead at their greaser/psychedelic-Tex-Mex best. The fidelity is insane too, it's like these cuts were recorded yesterday. It sounds way better than even the stuff on that Birth of the Dead comp. so crazy. There's a slowed down version of "Cream Puff War" on here that's great, a studio "Standing on the Corner", a version of "Stealin" that has an arrangement that's totally cooler than the one from the 1st single!!!!! I am not shitting you! this version of "Stealin'" is just tough ... it's just incredible. Any 1st album fan (and if you're *not* a first album fan yer nuts, get outta my face) needs to get this at once..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 23 December 2005 06:47 (thirteen years ago) link

I've been getting into these through digital download at the gdstore (considerably cheaper than the imported CDs here):

Two From the Vault (1968) - really good

Grateful Dead Download Series Number 6 (also 1968)- also very good

but Dick's Pick's 12 (1974) - which is a favourite of Suzy Creamcheese, I think , from another thread - is a soft ultra-noodley show.

Which were the more harder jamming/ rocking years?

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 16:02 (thirteen years ago) link

67-69 are def. the dead's 'hard jamming' years - garcia esp. seemed to play w/ much more venom during this period - check out the jams on tunes like The Other One, New Potato Caboose, Alligator/Caution/Feedback, Viola Lee Blues - i think you'll dig Dick's Picks 22 (a rare 68 show that SMOKES) or the 3 disc 69 Fillmore West set that Rhino have just put out

in his autobiog Phil Lesh sez that 74 (the 'wall of sound' era) was the Dead's finest year musically, and i sorta agree w/ him - personally i like the noodle-jazz stuff they got into round about 72-74, def. post-Bitches Brew rock music (and they cld still get pretty intense when they wanted to - just a diff. sound/emphasis). garcia certainly swapped gtrs round abt 70 and that seemed to make a major diff. to his playing

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 19:55 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
The 60's were definately the best era, to my taste. To me the music died with Europe 72, and maybe before that.

I'm looking for the best recording of Dark Star - other than Live/Dead (which is just incredible). Is there another recording that is nearly as awesome, yet different?

Is the Greyfold 1-hour remix any good?

Other One, Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:48 (thirteen years ago) link

Grayfolded is really nice, you should get it.

Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 21 January 2006 18:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Grayfolded actually ends up being two hours I think (2 discs).

And I don't know, '73 Dark Stars are my favorite ('73 was my favorite year). There is a capital Dark Star from one of these '73 DPs ... Dick's Picks Volume 19, maybe? '73 was a great year for Playings and Eyes, both of which are represented well on this DPs.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Saturday, 21 January 2006 22:42 (thirteen years ago) link

What was the consensus on that 11 disk Fillmore West? Or are people still working their way through it?

I bought one but I'm keeping it in shrink-wrapped mint condition as an investment for the time being.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 21 January 2006 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

four months pass...
The jazzy Star on Dick's Picks Vol. 11 (720927) is wonderful.
As are 731111 and 731206 and the wonderful Winterland 740224,
which merges into an equally beautiful Morning Dew.
This is something I probably shouldn't admit, but I'm sad enough to have
a thirteen-and-a-half hour iPod playlist, consisting of Stars from 1968 (single version)
to 891026, when the tune reappeared after a long absence, I think ...

Mats Blomqvist (Blomqvist), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 06:57 (thirteen years ago) link

Dark Star reappeared at Hampton Coliseum on 10/9/89, I think. I could be wrong, but the Nighfall of Diamonds release was from a show around that time.

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Dark Star reappeared at Hampton Coliseum on 10/9/89, I think.
You're right, of course. The audience reaction there is fantastic.
I think the 891026 Star is considered o be one of the best late ones
and it's the only one I've got from that year.
The Rotterdam one (720511) is another favourite of mine.

Mats Blomqvist (Blomqvist), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:31 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Yeah, what happened to archive? Do they only allow streaming now or what?

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Friday, 16 June 2006 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link

You can download audience recordings but not the soundboards.

BrianB (BrianB), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Are Dick's Picks history?

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 11 January 2007 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

I've always thought Lazy Lightning sounds like the theme song to a mid-60s sit-com

tobo73, Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:35 (two months ago) link

hartford 1977-05-28 is nice (also not a '77 head), i didn't know donna could sing! also liking red rocks 1978-07-08.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:51 (two months ago) link

I listened to the first disc of Three from the Vault thinking about Robert Hunter last night. It's from the Capitol Theatre in Feb 1971. One of these days I need to check out the New Riders of the Purple Sage recording with Jerry on pedal steel from the same shows.

earlnash, Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:56 (two months ago) link


New Live Collection Features Nine Unreleased Performances From The Early ‘90s,

Presenting What The Next Grateful Dead Studio Album May Have Been

Available On CD, Double-LP, And Digitally On November 22;

Limited Edition, Colored Vinyl Version Available Exclusively At

Unreleased Live Version Of “Lazy River Road” Available Now Digitally

The Grateful Dead may have released the band’s final studio album – Built to Last – on Halloween 1989, but that didn’t stop them from writing new songs for the following years, adding several new tracks to their live repertoire in the early ‘90s. Sadly, the group was unable to ever complete them in a studio before the death of singer/guitarist Jerry Garcia in 1995.

The world will never know what that album would have sounded like, but we do have a tantalizing idea thanks to a new collection curated by the band’s archivist David Lemieux. READY OR NOT features nine unreleased live versions of late-period Grateful Dead songs that debuted in 1992 and 1993. The collection’s tracklist reflects what might have been the band’s next official studio album following Built to Last.

READY OR NOT will be released on November 22 on CD, digital download, streaming, and as a 180-gram 2-LP set, limited to 10,000 copies. will offer an exclusive coloured vinyl version of the 2-LP set with one red LP and one blue LP, limited to 2,000 copies. “Lazy River Road” live from Chapel Hill, North Carolina on March 25, 1993, is available now digitally.

“Ready Or Not has been a long time coming. It’s an album we've been working on for many, many years. This batch of ‘new’ Grateful Dead songs has never been compiled in one place and given its proper due as a huge part of the Dead's late-era legacy,” says Lemieux. “Many of these songs can easily stand alongside some of the Dead's oldest, most-loved songs as bona fide classics despite their short tenure in the repertoire. We've dug deep into the archive and listened to countless live versions of these songs to find the best, most definitive live performances. When the Grateful Dead were ‘on’ in their later years, their live concerts were as good as any era in their history. The nine songs on Ready Or Not exemplify how good the Dead could be in their later years of touring.”

The collection focuses on the best unreleased live versions of these late-period gems, all mastered from the original digital soundboard tapes. Recorded live between 1992 and 1995, READY OR NOT spotlights performance by the final Grateful Dead lineup: Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and new keyboardist Vince Welnick.

Four of the album’s nine tracks originally debuted during a two-day period in February 1993, including “Lazy River Road,” “Liberty,” and “Eternity,” a song that Weir wrote with Rob Wasserman and blues legend Willie Dixon. Another was “Days Between.” This grand and achingly nostalgic Robert Hunter and Garcia composition closes the album with a version that was recorded in December 1994 at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum.

Hunter – who worked mainly with Garcia – began writing with Weir again during this period. Two of their collaborations are featured on READY OR NOT: “Corinna” and “Easy Answers.” The album also includes “Samba In the Rain,” a song by Welnick that features Hunter’s lyrics. The album’s two remaining songs – “Way To Go Home” and “So Many Roads” – made their live debut in February 1992, just a few months before the live versions included on READY OR NOT.


CD Track Listing

“Liberty” – Madison Square Garden, New York, NY (10/14/94)

“Eternity” – The Pyramid, Memphis, TN (4/2/95)

“Lazy River Road” – Dean Smith Center, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC (3/25/93)

“Samba In The Rain” – The Omni, Atlanta, GA (3/30/95)

“So Many Roads” – Star Lake Amphitheatre, Burgettstown, PA (6/23/92)

“Way To Go Home” – Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN (6/28/92)

“Corrina” – Madison Square Garden, New York, NY (10/14/94)

“Easy Answers” – Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (9/13/93)

“Days Between” – Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, Oakland, CA (12/11/94)

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:04 (two months ago) link

Interesting concept, but I'm now on Archive listening to "Samba" (a song no one ever liked) in the echoey Omni and it's dreadful, sorry.

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:43 (two months ago) link

In slightly more exciting news (and far better artwork), Dave's Picks 32 will be 3/24/73 at The Spectrum.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:14 (two months ago) link

I don’t get why anyone would spend $$ on that collection of new songs. If you really need to hear them they are widely available online. And several of those songs are undeniably terrible. I guess it’s cheap to produce and see who bites?

tobo73, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:04 (two months ago) link

aside from "days between" (and maybe "so many roads") this stuff isn't very good ... and sometimes it's very bad!

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:22 (two months ago) link

In slightly more exciting news (and far better artwork), Dave's Picks 32 will be 3/24/73 at The Spectrum.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 1:14 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh HELL yeah, this show has my favorite version of He's Gone, among numerous early 73 highlights

J. Sam, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:06 (two months ago) link

its a stone cold classic, for the Phil solo alone

tobo73, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:10 (two months ago) link

that ready or not album art... yikes

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:15 (two months ago) link


That's much better.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:24 (two months ago) link

yeah reminds me of the other DP with the aliens. the one with the 'close encounters' intro to st stephen. still love that one

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:23 (two months ago) link

i didn't know donna could sing!

I once mistook her for Kate Bush when a housemate was playing a Dead show

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:26 (two months ago) link

DaP 23! Eugene 1/22/78! One of my favorite entries in the series.


soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:38 (two months ago) link

I once mistook her for Kate Bush when a housemate was playing a Dead show

― sleeve

ts: donna's version of "babooshka" versus her version of "escape (the pina colada song)"

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:49 (two months ago) link


Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:50 (two months ago) link

Those were good. I loved the 19 cover with the wheat field.

My unofficial ranking of the Dick's art:
lightning bolt (19-24)
tape box (1-6)
mailers (26-30)
cosmic moving fractals (31-36)
fractals (13-18)
one off Dick plaque (25)
flying carpet (7-12)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:59 (two months ago) link


☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 15:33 (two months ago) link

four weeks pass...

The new Dave's Picks 32 confirming that there are still loads of great '73 shows to be mined. You know it's a good show when Phil pretty much nails the "Box of Rain" vocals.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 November 2019 16:39 (one month ago) link

My parents were at the vol 24 show. It was their wedding night.

brimstead, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:31 (one month ago) link

haven't gotten to it yet but 30 from earlier this year fuckin knocked me over. one of the best shows ever.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:16 (one month ago) link

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