london restaurants

but then im with some other people later in the week and we need another recommendation.

They recommend the place you mention sarah

sushi-say is like 15mins walk from my house...

Sarah, sushi-say is fantastic, and the chef thre is very very cool.

I've heard far too many stories about Pollo ever to go back there, which is a shame as I used to like it.

How is Cafe Grove? Has anyone tried Viet Hoa? What about Goddards Ye Olde Pie Shop?

Viet Hoa is very reliable (and popular) but since the opening of about a dozen Vietnamese restaurants next to it, of course there are one or two of these that are better than Viet Hoa, like Song Que a few blocks up and the Viet community centre on the Dalston end of Englefield Road.

*ok, i don't eat sushi, but i like loads of their food.

Tim once mentioned a thai restaurant as what he'd show ppl from out of town as an example of London restaurants at their best, I thought it was on this thread but my search lead nowhere, anyone know?

Singburi?

Kiln!

Probably.

Yeah, Kiln sounds right! Thanks.

since I'm at it, 2023 meals (really need to get out of the East more)

Birthday dinner at Mangal 2
Cheese chicken from Good Friend Chicken in Chinatown
Laghman noodles at Etles Uyghur
Shanghai style pork belly on rice at Lulu's
Bueno cheesecake from Bake Street
Bifana from Lisboeta
Great tteopokki at Bi Won London
Dusty Knuckle Bakery bacon sarnie
Turkey pie from Snackbar
Pho at Song Que
Milky tea from Bun House
Potato kugel and apple kugel from Avrumie's
Fried chicken from Seoul 90
Bacon and haggis roll from Scottish Kitchen

Guilty pleasures: jerk chicken bagel from Bagel House, super sugary chai from Chaiwaala

Advice needed:

Going out with my mum in London Bridge on Sunday. She doesn't want to eat anywhere too high end (disappointing). I was *thinking* the Royal Oak, but I'm not sure it's quite right for what she'd like, what other good options are there? There's the Wright Brothers, Brindisa I guess though we went there last time. There's Padella isn't there? Not sure that's right either, plus can't book.

Define “High end”, is it a vibe or a price point, do you have that thing with yr mammy where you can’t take her anywhere cos she’ll complain about the prices

Would Cafe Murano on Bermondsey Street fit the bill? 15 minutes’ walk from London Bridge.

Anyway I never really go there apart from to the Ginger Pig before ILB meets but Eliots comes highly recommended by a mutual friend of ours, I have only had the basque cheesecake there but it’s excellent. Also there’s a Hawksmoor there which I mention as they do a Sunday roast that is supposedly good, also have good cocktails.

No helpful advice, but I took older 2 siblings and a brother in law to Borough Market last year and they hated it at first sight! They couldn’t cope with the food market atmosphere and set up, and demanded to leave almost immediately, and we ended up at the Wagamama at Bankside (not recommended).

Fizzles, I did consult a regional policeman & he says: Hope and Anchor is your only man

Anchor and Hope, even

Gyac’s right, Elliot’s is good, though the times I’ve been there it’s always worked out to be more expensive than I expected.

More or less next door to that is Rambutan, a somewhat fancy Sri Lankan place - I’ve only been once but I thought it was genuinely excellent.

If Bermondsey Street is on the agenda, consider Casse-Croûte, a pleasingly trad French place. Similar distance in the other direction is the Anchor and Hope of course, can’t go wrong there.

Haha XP, I do like agreeing with gyac

excellent stuff, thanks everyone. Anchor and Hope was on my mind and is a really good shout.

And good question about 'high end' - she doesn't want me taking her out somewhere expensive basically. BUT also she is a massive snob and annoyingly fastidious.

Will check out Elliot's and Rambutan - thanks Tim. I was wondering whether to head down to 40 Maltby Street - never been to Casse-Croute.

lol bob six - i kind of know what they mean tbh! (tho Ginger Pig in any forms is a marvellous thing, as gyac says).

At the very least this is giving me a very good list of places to go not with my mum.

Love 40 Maltby St but it’s not terribly comfortable, think I’d have thought twice before taking my mother there. Of course there is no reason to assume Ma Fizzles would react like my mum.

Mater Fizzles is a massive shire Tory iirc so probably not

It is incredibly uncomfortable, and it's annoying because it's my favourite place to eat and drink. It's all elbows and stools. And why is the goddam bar so high? It would annoy her too.

Shire Tory not right tbh. East Anglian lower middle class protestant snobbery mutating into a sort of irritable hodge-podge of it's-nobody's-business liberalism, social conservatism (ie doesn't like people or says she doesn't, turns out she has a good time if she forgets this) and odd outcrops of socialism: fervent supporter of council housing, loathes the police, public transport and cycling infra stan. idk, when you get old you just accumulate a load of incompatible shit and become cranky i guess. would never happen to me ofc.

anyway *we get on* and like a gossip and as long as we steer clear of politics and don't get too twatted actually have a serviceable relationship, so i'll stick with that. Anchor and Hope booked up, unless we want to eat at 12:30. Tempting tho as I've been meaning to go for ages and it seems perfect.

Go to Elliott’s and get the cheesecake

it’s the leading option rn.

Anchor and Hope a great success. we had a lovely time. good atmosphere and drinks were all excellent. thanks everyone for seeing it over the line.

Really enjoyed the food at Honey & Co (Lamb's Conduit Street) last week. Had a sharing menu of mezze then a main and would have been happy with just the former, to be honest. Not as special as Ottolenghi, I don't think ... and felt a bit squeezed in to the venue but would still recommend. Had *bonus wine* across the road at Noble Rot (there's scope to have a relatively priced drink as much as a hideously expensive one). They had a set menu that seemed decent/highly reasonable (but wasn't vegetarian, so no good for me). Seemed a venue where people were happy to dip in for a glass of wine with their book.