Danny Baker: Classic or Dud

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did he say "fancy a kick-around, bob?" one fateful afternoon?

carsmilesteve, Wednesday, 29 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I was about to say, first I ever heard of this particular story. What gives?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, thought that would titilate you. The story is that about a year before Bob's tragic death he and the Wailers were in London. Being rabid mad football fans they decided to have a kickabout with the NME. Imagine the scene unfit Music Journo's vs The Wailers - who were to all intents and purposes quite tasty. Anyway Baker - being known as a football fan (though chubby) felt an extra duty to try and play well so as when they were losing about 10-0 he decided to revert to usual Millwall tactics of the age and went in too footed on old Bob.

Bob was instantly in hideous pain, wailing indeed, and the match was abandoned due to this Baker caused toe injury. A quick trip off to hospital later on tour revealed that said to was not just broken but had become cancerous. Within the year Marley was up there with his namesake Jacob.

Whilst the causal connection between a bad tackle and cancer is highly unlikely and certainly won't stand up in a court of law, Baker blames himself to this day for cutting Bob's career short - and at the same time halving the birth rate in Jamaica.

Pete, Thursday, 30 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Those of you vaguely interested, Baker is back on radio at his spiritual home GLR (I mean London Live - pointless name change). Saturday mornings 8 - 11am. Let's hope Kelly, Dr H and Aliss Moss turns up too.

Pete, Monday, 10 September 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Allis, yes. Dr. H, no.

Baker and Kelly will be teaming up again on Radio 5 in the new year (from 11 to 12:30).

Alex Gollner, Friday, 12 October 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...
And lo, what goes around comes around. He just won the Sony Award for best DJ for his BBC London breakfast show, which it was pointed out was ironic for a man whose contract expliocitly tells him not to play records.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

and the day after he hands in his two month notice...

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I refuse to get that Ramones DVD because it has a Danny Baker commentary as an extra. So D.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Six O Clock Show: classic
NME: not sure, classic if rockist?
The Big Breakfast: classic
Danny Baker After All: dud
606: classic
Pets Win Prizes: dud
guest spot on Fantasy Football where he chokes on jellied eels while wearing a Flamengo shirt: classic
TFI Friday: dud
as half of screenplay writing duo Chris Baker: dud

but i'm sure he's good on BBC London so remarkably the classics just about have it. i'm generally impressed/envious of his career/fingers in pies ala Keith Allen.

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

NME: not sure, classic if rockist?

In fact he was totally non-rockist at the NME, he was a soulboy and was into pop music, Michael Jackson, Earth Wind and Fire etc

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link

yeh i figured he was into Rare Groove and such - what years was he at the NME though?

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Kind of late 70s, early 80s?

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:10 (fourteen years ago) link

... I think he thought all that postpunk stuff was a load of old pony basically

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

I always think he was there later than that because really I'm thinking of Danny Kelly.

$V£N! (blueski), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:16 (fourteen years ago) link

You missed another of his achievements:

Starting the Sniffin' Glue fanzine with Mark Perry: classic

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, NME baker was apparently amazing. big disco fan. i forgot about sniffin glue, which could scarcely have been more rockist. weird.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

how exactly was sniffin glue 'rockist'? why is it 'weird' that Baker cld like prog and punk AND soul AND pop etc etc?

Andrew J L, Tuesday, 10 May 2005 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Didn't he do the last NME pre-Madness of King Pop interview with Michael Jackson around the release of 'Thriller' in late 82 ?

darren (darren), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Dusty Baker.....DUD.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

in that jackson interview he mostly talked abt wack-a-mole!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 10 May 2005 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Should I not object to that commentary then?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Baker at NME: classic for the Chic album review, for the Jackson interview (Yoshi! "I'm playing with words you see...is funny"), for the Britfunk piece (which if you can find it will show you EXACTLY what he thought of post-punk), for Samuel KB Amphong, for his Teazers columns ("Basement 5 are my favourite group of all time! Sorry, who was it we were talking about again?") and especially for the funniest singles columns ever run, in the NME or anywhere else.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 06:57 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoops, two weeks, not two months. What am I going to listen to in the mornings now?!

Mind you, listening to a rubbish morning show will probably drive me out of bed, which would be a good thing.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I can't listen to his Radio London show as it frustrates me, every time he gets going, he has to stop for dreary, interminable quarter-hour traffic and news summaries. Put him on Radio 2. Wogan's past retirement age!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:44 (fourteen years ago) link

You can listen to the "listen again" on the BBC London website which handily cuts out the boring bits.

I must admit Vicky is probably right. I thought having a morning show I really liked would help me get up int he morning, but actually i usuall listen until 9 and am then late for work*. Any news on if he is moving anywhere. Getting a nice Sunday morning show???

*Not that in the scheme of things this really matter.s

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Hold up! He did not Start "Sniffin Glue". He joined it towards the end.

Oh, when he was on the NME, his first (I think) singles review column was all raving about disco 12" singles. Most of which had terrible titles like "I'll never forget my favourite disco" but as I've never heared the tracks, I'll refrain.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and ALSO!!!

He'd write stuff like "It sounds like Highway Star, and I've always hated Highway Star" which was a LIE! which he admitted later. It was more pretence than the CLASH!!! (I mean this, btw). Also, when "So it goes" had a retrospective, a lot of the lost vids were supplied by DB. Hang on, who had a video recorder in 1976-1977? Very rich people, that's who.


Despite all that, I vote Classic.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I doubt if you'll get him on Radio 2 on Sunday morning - Steve Shite's Sunday Love Songs and Michael Parkinson (the Geir Hongro of broadcasting) are immovable. So it would have to be tedious BBC Radio London, which manages to reduce one of the world's great cities to the level of Chipping Norton. On a wet Wednesday morning. In November. 1974.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 08:57 (fourteen years ago) link

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/story/0,14173,1480588,00.html

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Crappy news, but probably to be expected. I had a feeling he wouldn't stick that lousy early-morning slot forever. And the format was patently unsuitable - no records allowed and Baker having to stop every five minutes for travel bulletins.

It would be nice if they could do the obvious thing and put him back together with Danny Kelly again. It seems silly to have them doing different shows on the same station.

Giving Jon Gaunt the breakfast slot would probably be the worst thing ever, but I doubt I'll be listening to it anyway.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:18 (fourteen years ago) link

Giving Jon Gaunt the breakfast slot would probably be the worst thing ever

PLEASE tell me that's not happening.

stevie (stevie), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Well I won't be listening to it if that turns out to be the case. I suppose that's why Wogan does so well in the breakfast ratings; he seems to be the only DJ on that time who doesn't shout at you continually.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Me and the missus were so angry with BBC London when they dropped Baker's show for a fortnight at the beginning of hostilities in Iraq (because it was deemed "inappropriate"; a rolling news service was put in its place) that we wrote our one and only Points Of View-style letter of complaint to the Beeb. We got some risibly-argued PoS response which just made us angrier.

Sad to see him go (though, in recent weeks, I've been craving sleep so much I've been hitting the snooze button more often than not).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Its odd actually, I rather like the format now, and wonder if I will be able to wait between records for more banter. Nice to get rid of the news and stuff, but this is BBC radio.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 12:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Fuck the BBC.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Gah. Will we have to go back to XFM? I don't know if I can take the nob jokes. There's no way Wogan will do, especially as there's the chance of catching the end of vile Sarah Kennedy on R2.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:37 (fourteen years ago) link

hah! Laura hated GMTV but always stuck it on in the morning before 7:30 when getting ready for work because she liked Wogan but couldn't bear a nanosecond of Sarah "Terrible Twooooooos" Kennedy.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 07:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd rather listen to static than Kennedy. Same goes for Jon Gaunt. Looks like we'll be battlin' the pirates for XFM reception again. Ahaarrr!

robster (robster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Guys! Radio 4! Today! John Humphries laying into haplass politicians! Strangly cheery weather presenters! GET ONE THINKING!

Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm surprised at how many of you listen to the radio in the mornings (just because I never do I suppose).

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Being woken up by a radio is a bit less brutal than an alarm clock.

Radio 4 is an option I suppose. Today tends to make me angrier than I want to be at that time of the morning though. Is there a channel that just does the shipping forecast all the time?

robster (robster), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link

John Humphrys is a wearisome Welsh windbag. I wouldn't know about XFM since I only ever listen to their ambient/electronica programme occasionally on Sunday nights. But Christian O'Connell sounds pretty repulsive and shouty.

Resonance should do a breakfast show. They've got a clear field. Hello chaps! I'm available at a competitive rate!

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:20 (fourteen years ago) link

There was a very funny interview with Prescott on 'Today' this morning. Jim Naughtie compared him to Les Dawson at one point, which he seemed quite happy about.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I couldn't stand O'Connell the couple of times I did listen. You'd be better off with Moyles. Seriously.

$V£N! (blueski), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:25 (fourteen years ago) link

If only Les Dawson were still alive to present Today...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:28 (fourteen years ago) link

That's sooooo unfair to O'Connell. He can be irritating though. I like his bantering newsreader comrade.

xpost haha I think I would listen to Les Dawson in the morning. Lugubrious.

Liz :x (Liz :x), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Resonance FM! Breakfast Show! Presented by John Prescott!!!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:39 (fourteen years ago) link

All I know of C O'C on XFM is from the hideous billboard ads - "Could a leech suck another leech?", etc. Try-hard zany shite by the sounds of it.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:41 (fourteen years ago) link

That acronym of his name sounds sweatily appropriate.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 12 May 2005 08:52 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Huzzah, back on BBC London, 3-5 weekdays. Ideal for podcasting, an hour on the way to work, and hour back. If you can get it as a podcast. Which you might not. Doesn't matter, I listen at work.

Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:35 (thirteen years ago) link

at least it wasn't an acci-dental death.

calzino, Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:28 (five months ago) link

calz moving in hard on this vacant colin hunt role

mark s, Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:29 (five months ago) link

:p

calzino, Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:30 (five months ago) link

That Gazza album only has the man himself on three tracks! Gazza, not Danny Baker. Wot a ripoff. Wot a low moment in Gilbert O'Sullivan's career too.

Zeuhl Idol (Matt #2), Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:39 (five months ago) link

I bet Danny Baker knows why Spooky Tooth are called Spooky Tooth.

Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:44 (five months ago) link

now we'll never find out

mark s, Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:47 (five months ago) link

imagine if you started getting flashbacks to the Terry Wogan interview, whilst getting interviewed by Danny Baker ...

calzino, Saturday, 11 May 2019 22:49 (five months ago) link

And faster than you can say "gor blimey gov'ner luv a duck" he's back in front of adoring crowds.

BBC News - Danny Baker: Standing ovation at first show since Twitter storm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-48249637

Also "Twitter storm"?

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 13 May 2019 05:57 (five months ago) link

this is all really tasteful

Doctor Nu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:14 (five months ago) link

Damn he was supposed to go away for good what happened

xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:21 (five months ago) link

white people have finally forgiven him

Doctor Nu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:23 (five months ago) link

He's just performing in front of crowds in his normal manner, he's not milking it.

calzino, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:33 (five months ago) link

no he should fuck himself off a cliff nothing else will atone

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:51 (five months ago) link

sometimes - and i'm just throwing this out there - a period of seemly staying out of the public eye might be in order

Doctor Nu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:53 (five months ago) link

he is calm and posting as he always does iirc

michael keaton IS jim thirlwell IN ‘foetaljuice’ (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:53 (five months ago) link

perfect

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:56 (five months ago) link

Lol. That's the one.

calzino, Monday, 13 May 2019 09:56 (five months ago) link

nothing about danny baker is about seemliness or not being in the public eye, in particular his job

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Monday, 13 May 2019 09:57 (five months ago) link

Well yeah hence fuck him

Doctor Nu (Noodle Vague), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:15 (five months ago) link

If was a bit more up for a short period of sweet obscurity he would be a coupla percent less a nauseating cunt for a day, at least.

calzino, Monday, 13 May 2019 10:23 (five months ago) link

fair

deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Monday, 13 May 2019 10:25 (five months ago) link

Biography is on Kindle daily deal today. #1 bestseller in autobiographies apparently.

koogs, Monday, 20 May 2019 09:32 (four months ago) link

His podcast with Gary Lineker stopped without any announcement.

Lineker has kept schtum on twitter about the whole thing - dunno if he's dropped Baker or they're just letting the dust settle.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Tuesday, 21 May 2019 19:34 (four months ago) link


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