best Fred Durst shoutout in Staind's "Outside"

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THIS IS THE REAL MUTHAFUCKIN DEAL Y'ALL

I think this is being underrated, cos I'm kind of touched that Fred thinks a bloke strumming a guitar and emo-mumbling is as real as I do.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

I think people hate on Staind hard for several reasons. First, "Staind." Second, there's the fact that he sold out his whole band by claiming he really only wanted to go country in a song that sounded exactly like a Staind song, only with a different producer who'd heard some country. Third, it's hard to conceive of a band more melodically deficient than Staind. They literally have one melodic mode in which they work, on every song, no matter what the chords are. It's the same Nirvana-changed-my-life move that really inspired a generation - I just spent a few minutes trying to figure out which mode it is that the Staind melody is in, I want to say Phrygian but I don't think that's right, but anyway it's just so cynically uninterested in its own music. A Stained song involves putting some chords together and then doing the same thing you did in the last song.

Also watch any of the videos somebody needs to give this guy 10,000 noogies.

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 12:58 (twelve years ago) link

going with "lighters" because it's kind of poignant being on the cusp of a new generation of concertgoing and all, and "i'm feeling those cellphones" just wouldn't be the same.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:25 (twelve years ago) link

also poignant as it is, listening to stained is like blowing your nose into a glass of apple juice and then drinking it not on a dare but for pleasure.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

see, my computer won't even let me write "staind" without having to go back and fix it.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

I can't sit still through this. Does anyone know at what time "lighters" comes up?

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link

I mean on paper "I'm feelin those lighters" is, as moley says, a no-brainer. But within the clip "Biloxi!" really shines. It's a hard vote, but "Biloxi" it is.

^^^

Tim F, Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

At the beginning of this song, had he forgotten how to it went? There are some plain wrong notes in there played over and over until he hits the verse.

also lol @ "BILOXI!"

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:01 (twelve years ago) link

also lol @ Fred not being able to sing the chorus

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

dan i think you are asking a lot of staind dude's memory and skill set.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

according to one of the youtube commenters this was the first time the guy had ever played the song in public, it wasnt on any of their CDs, and he hadnt even written lyrics to it?

max, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (twelve years ago) link

which would mean that yes fred is trying to sing along with a chorus that literally didnt have lyrics until that very moment

max, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

so Fred is a mind-reader? cool

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/blogs/popwrap/201002/images/08/SNL.jpg

they should have dressed like this

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (twelve years ago) link

so it's the gil e jorge of nu-metal

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

DJP wardrobe correction so OTM

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:23 (twelve years ago) link

This video and fred ad libs provided many lols at the time, glad to see we weren't alone

I knew a guy or two fresh year of college sincerely into this song

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Staind also were annoying for rhyming the same vowel sounds over and over again. It's even in ths song titles! For example, 14 Shades of Grey has the following songs:

Price to Play
So Far Away
Yesterday
Fray (this is 4 of the first five tracks btw)
Blow Away

Good God!

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:55 (twelve years ago) link

man, you know durst was 31 years old when 'nookie' came out? weird

― Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:57 PM Bookmark

And here I am the same age, and what have I accomplished?

didn't even have to use my akai (Hurting 2), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:00 (twelve years ago) link

He was actually 29.

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:05 (twelve years ago) link

and to think he was washed up before 40. he's like orson welles.

apichathong song (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

31 when the video dropped rather

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:26 (twelve years ago) link

guys 31 is still a teenager basically

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

trust me on this one

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

sad no one bit on my revive of the "Behind Blue Eyes" thread

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:29 (twelve years ago) link

We were trying to ignore that.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 July 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

Second, there's the fact that he sold out his whole band by claiming he really only wanted to go country in a song that sounded exactly like a Staind song, only with a different producer who'd heard some country

to be fair, this happened late in his career

absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:14 (twelve years ago) link

by which I mean after everyone already decided Staind were the worst band ever

again, not defending Staind who are horrible, but there were so many bands I would call the worst band of their era before Staind (Creed, Nickelback, 3 Doors Down) - I think I'd even rather listen to "Outside" or "It's Been Awhile" than that unreleased Nirvana song they remastered to sound like Puddle of Mudd

absolutely better display name (crüt), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:23 (twelve years ago) link

I'll take Creed over Staind for sure, but Staind over Nickelback & 3 Doors Down

pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah, I'm feeling you curtis. I like this better than any rock I've heard on the radio and I fucking HATED this when it was out. To me, this song is a watershed moment in blunt-edged commercial hard-rock. It's the source.

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:41 (twelve years ago) link

I'd take riding a rollercoaster without a lap bar over Nickleback

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

God, and my girlfriend at the time liked this too. She didn't understand why I would get so upset about it.

grit of ad hominem (kkvgz), Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link

Staind to me were terrible because of just how droney their shit was. it was almost offensive in its blandness.

Neanderthal, Thursday, 21 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link

N needs ti embrace the droney.

There is actually one (and only one) 3 Doors Down song I will ride for: "Not My Time"

in 77 everything is fine (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 21 July 2011 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

we should all learn this and play it in a google+ hangout imo

markers, Friday, 22 July 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link

I like droney stuff if it's like...doom metal, a la Cathedral....not warbly acoustic "rock"!

Neanderthal, Friday, 22 July 2011 02:53 (twelve years ago) link

the half-assed strummed guitar and sub-grunge songwriting is definitely the worst thing about Staind

absolutely better display name (crüt), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

besides all that other stuff

absolutely better display name (crüt), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:06 (twelve years ago) link

I'll take Creed over Staind for sure, but Staind over Nickelback & 3 Doors Down

I understand where you're coming from, but Creed singlehandedly topped everyone in terms of horribleness with "With Arms Wide Open" (arguably their biggest song) and I can never think of Creed without thinking of that

absolutely better display name (crüt), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:10 (twelve years ago) link

man i like creed

markers, Friday, 22 July 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

But within the clip "Biloxi!" really shines. It's a hard vote, but "Biloxi" it is.

― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, July 21, 2011 12:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

seriously--i spent all these years not realizing that's what he was saying and this is a revelation to me

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 22 July 2011 03:18 (twelve years ago) link

monsters of '00s post-grunge best to worst: Nickelback > Shinedown > Godsmack > Creed > Daughtry > Seether > Three Days Grace > Staind > Breaking Benjamin

drowning cool (some dude), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

dude staind is so much better than fuckin daughtry and seether and three days grace what is wrong with you

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 22 July 2011 03:19 (twelve years ago) link

"For You" and "Mudshovel" are cool but i don't fuck w/ Staind's seventeen consecutive ballad singles

drowning cool (some dude), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

hoos otm

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:20 (twelve years ago) link

basically the only reason Staind isn't dead last is i can't even name a Breaking Benjamin song much less one i like but i know i've heard them a billion times

drowning cool (some dude), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:22 (twelve years ago) link

amazingly perfect post-grunge origin story:

Before Breaking Benjamin was formed, Burnley had earned money by playing cover songs in various coffee houses as a solo artist under his own name "Benjamin." He later came up with the band's name, "Breaking Benjamin," after doing a performance of a Nirvana cover, Ben knocked over (to imitate his lifelong idol Kurt Cobain) and cracked a microphone he had borrowed. The owner of the microphone walked onto the stage and said, "I'd like to thank Benjamin for breaking my fucking microphone."[2]

drowning cool (some dude), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link

YES

markers, Friday, 22 July 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

Burnley is victim to several phobias and has even said that the name of their 2006 album, Phobia, was named after that simple fact.

drowning cool (some dude), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

lmao

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Friday, 22 July 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

love fred 4eva

Louis Jägermeister (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 April 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

i'm in biloxi right now

⅋ (crüt), Monday, 25 February 2019 00:37 (five years ago) link

like, in biloxi or just outside it, looking in?

☮ (peace, man), Monday, 25 February 2019 00:38 (five years ago) link

lol

lispectah deck (unregistered), Monday, 25 February 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt9rcD-j7wI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaV2ENqUymU

This guy is such a fucking baby.

☮, 🐸 (peace, man), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:31 (five years ago) link


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