Revolution - Official ILX Beatles tracks poll results

Paperback Writer is also about getting high and singing "Frere Jacques" for backing vocals.

web page about the origins of paperback writer:

http://only1rad.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=frontman&action=display&thread=1239

"It was the first Beatles single that was not a love song."

wow, that's a hell of a leap if it's true!

"Please Please Me" was about wanting a blowjob, so...

the love that dare not speak it's name, out loud, on bbc1

"McCartney had suggested that Lennon launch his second book, A Spaniard in the Works, at Indica bookshop but his PR people thought the premises were too small. McCartney had set up an arrangement with Indica that any books, art books in particular, or magazines that I thought were interesting should be sent to all four of the Beatles. I tended to get in paperbacks because they were cheap and our clientele was young and often impoverished. I had imported American paperback copies of a number of popular titles that were not yet published in Britain: these included Henry Miller's Sexus and Hubert Selby's Last Exit to Brooklyn, that was out in paperback in the States long before being published here.

In the song lyrics Paperback Writer is “a dirty story of a dirty man” so maybe he had Miller or Selby at the back of his mind. It is strange to think back to a time when paperbacks were actually a new thing and not regarded as proper books; Faber coyly called theirs “paper-covered editions”. Paperback Writer recognised that they had become part of our lives, worthy of a song. "

not read anything yet that suggests it's about anything other than wanting to be an author. phew!

hoping against available evidence the top ten acts as a partial corrective the late-Beatles chauvinism that I thought had receded in recent years. Let's give it up for Please Please Me! I Should Have Known Better! You Can't Do That! If I Fell! Michelle! C'mon...

No Reply is about felching

I Should Have Known Better is definitely in the top 10

So is Long Long Long.

XPOST

Don't give up on "Yes It Is"--a long shot, but I had it at #12.

I'm sure there's a thread somewhere on greatest double-sided singles, but "Paperback Writer"/"Rain" is right near the top of my own list; I'd give the edge to "Substitute"/"Circles" and not much else. There's one or two really weird story-within-a-story segues in "Paperback Writer."

Dog Latin - chronology runs thus:

* Help! LP
* Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out double A-side single
* Rubber Soul LP
* Paperback Writer backed with Rain single
* Revolver LP

If there'd been 'expanded' versions of the remasters with bonus tracks, it'd have made most sense to chuck those two singles on with the following albums. If you consider those two singles as big stylistic bridging leaps, it makes a lot of sense.

The Past Masters double CD remaster is absolutely and utterly beyond essential. The first four tracks on the second disc are those two singles run back-to-back. Fucking hellfire.

Ticket To Ride is another big epiphany single - first single to run past 3 minutes long.

Which is the one with the fade-in? Eight Days A Week? Another epiphany. Hard Day's Night's clang intro is another epiphany. This band had a big stylistic epiphany single every fucking month for a while.

Long Tall Sally/Tutti Frutti
Jailhouse Rock/Hound Dog

are two I learned from the 50s poll

OK, trawl this lot: The bottom ten, with their points. All have one vote:

185. Memphis, Tennessee (BBC) 15
186. Birthday 15
187. The Inner Light 14
188. Hold Me Tight 14
189. Devil In Her Heart 14
190. Mr. Moonlight 13
191. Drive my car 13
192. Christmas Time Is Here Again 13
193. Another Beatles Christmas Flexi 1964 13
194. Misery 12

xpost to sickmouthy. Yes, definitely. And it's a shame the singles weren't included on their respective albums. Day Tripper/We Can Work It Out especially sound like the missing link between Beatles I'm lukewarm on and Beatles I love (i.e. early/mid era)

This thread is reminding me of my need to purchse some more remasters. I only got hold of MMT and Abbey Road.

Wow--surprised I cast the only vote for the ultra-catchy and not-obscure "Christmas Time Is Here Again." I figured it would show up towards the bottom of a few ballots.

Drive My Car is the odd one out of that bottoms list.

I'm fucking shocked at Drive My Car being there.

Dog Latin - Revolver and Past Masters are very very urgent and key. Hard Day's Night may well turn your head too - the sound is incredibly raw and live and 'in a room', makes it super exciting.

189. Devil In Her Heart 14

this was only me? whadda bunch of punks

xpost I'll bear these in mind. I don't even know if I've actually heard HDN in its entirety. Might give me a reason to dip into more early stuff. I'm just a RS+ buff really.

I've played Revolver to death, so I don't know if I'd want to shell out for a remaster - is it very different?

Revolver mono or stereo? The extreme separation of instruments/vocals on Revolver always bugged me. Is it less severe on the remasters? Does it count less? I'm up in the air about the Past Masters remaster - how much improved is the sound from the singles on "1"?

I HATE that extreme separation thing... Especially annoying if one of your headphones/speakers breaks and you're left with just backing vocals and drums or whatever.

I agree. Revolver sucks on the headphones. xp

i was just hyped to actually be able to vote for the xmas flexis - i love those things! '64 was the best one, they start off reading their lines like the year before, then start getting all smartassy at their copywriters a few lines in. john - "thanks to all of you who bought me book, thank you folks for buying it, it was very handy. and there's another one out pretty soon, it says here..."

also, kazoo vs. harmonica

Is that the one where they do a sarcastic version of "Bits and Pieces" which collapses into "Jingle Bells"?

Mono Revolver is the way to go (except it's only in that goddamn expensive box). Not only does it clear up the extreme separation issue, but some of the mixes are noticeably different: an extra guitar figure in "I'm Only Sleeping," slightly different entrances/exits of the tape loops in "Tomorrow Never Knows," etc. etc.

Oh man don't talk about the #1 album, fucking awful dogshit sound.

The way you get over the extreme stereo separation is by playing the albums VERY LOUD on BIG SPEAKERS.

that are VERY CLOSE TOGETHER!

Actually mine are about 5 feet apart and it sounds just dandy.

That would be nice. Sadly I can't even fit both speakers in my living room (have one next to the TV and one in the adjoining kitchen, which is handy if you're going room to room, but SHIT if you do want any kind of stereo experience). Plus I have neighbours and paper thin walls.

We Can Work It Out was my #2 as well, glad it's at least placed this high. such a fantastic encapsulation of their mid-period approach.

who's doing the lead guitar on And Your Bird Can Sing?

Mono Revolver is the way to go (except it's only in that goddamn expensive box).

Best Buy has had the mono boxes for $99.98 since May.

who's doing the lead guitar on And Your Bird Can Sing?

According to Lewisohn, it's John and George together on matching brand-new Stratocasters.

Is that the one where George walked out so Ringo just did the guitar?

also my prediction is Hey Bulldog at number 1 lol

Plus I have neighbours and paper thin walls.

Ah, I remember PaperThinWalls...

Although other sources apparently say that the "Bird" guitar work was George and Paul or John and Paul, so who knows? It may have just been George overdubbed for all I know!

it doesn't sound (to me) like a part John would come up with

i was the only vote for drive my car??

does that bottom 10 list mean that someone else voted for Real Love besides me...?

Me and a bunch of socks had it at #1

hahaha

Songs with one vote take places up to number 140.

Songs with two votes take places from 156 upwards.

RL placed 138.

Your conclusion...

I was told there would be no math

No math, just logic.

"I was told there would be no math": I have six or seven kids say that to me on the first day of school every year.