blowing whistles in heaven now
― am0n, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
NYTimes goes in. HUGE amount of allegations, go nuts. Plus plenty of roffles:
Mr. Dacre, The Daily Mail editor, told his senior managers that he had received several reports from businesspeople, soccer stars and public relations agencies that the News International executives Will Lewis and Simon Greenberg had encouraged them to investigate whether their phones had been hacked by Daily Mail newspapers . “They thought it was unfair that all the focus was on The News of the World,” said one News International official with knowledge of the effort. The two men have told colleagues they did not make such calls, but two company officials disputed that.Mr. Dacre confronted Ms. Brooks over breakfast at the plush Brown’s hotel. “You are trying to tear down the entire industry,” Mr. Dacre told her, according to an account he relayed to his management team. Ms. Brooks, whose tenacity is legendary, was not deterred. At a dinner party, Lady Claudia Rothermere, the wife of the billionaire owner of The Daily Mail, overheard Ms. Brooks saying that The Mail was just as culpable as The News of the World. “We didn’t break the law,” Lady Rothermere said, according to two sources with knowledge of the exchange. Ms. Brooks asked who Lady Rothermere thought she was, “Mother Teresa?”
Mr. Dacre confronted Ms. Brooks over breakfast at the plush Brown’s hotel. “You are trying to tear down the entire industry,” Mr. Dacre told her, according to an account he relayed to his management team.
Ms. Brooks, whose tenacity is legendary, was not deterred. At a dinner party, Lady Claudia Rothermere, the wife of the billionaire owner of The Daily Mail, overheard Ms. Brooks saying that The Mail was just as culpable as The News of the World. “We didn’t break the law,” Lady Rothermere said, according to two sources with knowledge of the exchange. Ms. Brooks asked who Lady Rothermere thought she was, “Mother Teresa?”
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
re: dacre, thought this was interesting:
Asked whether unlawful newsgathering techniques could ever be justified, he said: "Goodness me, deep waters. I have considerable sympathy that if there's a great public interest then those methods can be justified."
However, he added later: "I don't think you should ever use hacking or blagging as a [public interest] defence because they're criminal offences."
like how much room is he leaving here for diff readings of 'if there's a great public interest' - like there is an obvious defence when it's regarding genuine journalistic enquiry, but given that the daily mail peddles a lot of gutter bullshit about cellulite and celebrity affairs that, y'know, there's a great public interest in, it's p interesting.
― Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
Mr. Murdoch was attending a conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, in early July when it became clear that the latest eruption of the hacking scandal was not, as he first thought, a passing problem. According to a person briefed on the conversation, he proposed to one senior executive that he “fly commercial to London,” so he might be seen as man of the people. He was told that would hardly do the trick, and he arrived on a Gulfstream G550 private jet.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
"Get me a ticket on Freddie Laker's airline."
― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
haha
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
not really keeping up w/ this thread, but the wsj editorial about this is hilariously small-minded and cunty
― goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
The Bancrofts were admirable owners in many ways, but at the end of their ownership their appetite for dividends meant that little cash remained to invest in journalism. We shudder to think what the Journal would look like today without the sale to News Corp.
read: "our only loyalty is to power, you can basically ignore what we say"
― goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
Really don't think Lady Rothmere is as bad as Mother Teresa, to be fair.
― henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
"The British politicians now bemoaning media influence over politics are also the same statesmen who have long coveted media support."
logic.ppt
― goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
And how the WSJ will trumpet this:
9.26pm: Standard and Poor's have put News Corp on negative credit watch, according to the AFP news agency.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
What time does it kick off tomorrow?
― � (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.dwot.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/schadenfreude.jpg
― online pinata store (Nicole), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14194623
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link
Hmm.
10.00pm: Three Police officers carrying cameras and wearing white forensic suits arrived a short time ago at Sean Hoare's flat in Watford.Fifteen minutes earlier, at about 9.15pm, a police van marked "Scientific Services Unit" pulled up at the address, a block of flats that the journalist moved into in November 2009.The Press Association reports that two officers emerged carrying evidence bags, clipboards, torches and laptop-style bags and entered the building.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaow
― a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
Nothing suspicious here obviously.
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
Fuck 'UK end of season finale', it's getting more like '24' end of season finale.
― James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
One of the more ridiculous later seasons, too.
Britain, you really have the best scandals ever.
― StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
My mom has not fallen for the dismissal of the story a la Fox and is actually going to watch the Parliamentary hearing, even if she has to go to C-SPAN. I really hope this is her big Helen Keller moment with this shit. OTOH: "Who's the redhead? Is sex involved?"
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
the hackers hacked:
http://whois.domaintools.com/new-times.co.uk
http://www.new-times.co.uk/sun/
― joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
now thesun.co.uk is redirecting to the hacked page.
― joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://twitter.com/#!/anonymouSabu/status/93062692327264256
― a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
omg @ that hack
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
wow!
― Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know he had a famous topiary garden!
― StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/s/sabu/23.jpg
― � (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
this is awesome!
― owenf, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:52 (twelve years ago) link
I know newscorp people on fb who were all like 'uuuh not dead, hacker fail' and the links they posted are redirecting to the hack.
― owenf, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
fucking hell ed miliband is a robot
― only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
Looks like the AnonymouSabu twitter account is going even further (no idea if what they are posting is actually real)
― jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
What do those numbers do though?
― a more annuated ilx user (Ned Trifle II), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
This is absolutely nuts in a predictable "what zeitgeisty infosec trope hasn't turned up yet?" way.
― Samantha Mumbahton (seandalai), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Think it's a cryptographic key to store the password?
― jellybean (back again) (Jill), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link
Yes... The password hashes and salts are needed to decrypt the passwords.. Using these details the passwords could be cracked in seconds...
― Night Nurse with Wound (Jack Battery-Pack), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
The Sun homepage thesun.co.uk now redirects to the LulzSec twitter page
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:19 (twelve years ago) link
this is all just spiffy
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:20 (twelve years ago) link
End of season now feels too small, somehow...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:27 (twelve years ago) link
SABU
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
i seriously would never have imagined that the parly grilling tomorrow would end up feeling like a sideshow
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
This is crazy. I've got to interview someone discussed on this thread tomorrow - musician - first thing and I know we are going to spend half of it not talking about anything but this.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
Waking up is brilliant these days. I need to take a day off just to work through the past few hours.
― Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
11.37pm: A News International spokeswoman has confirmed to the Press Association that the company was "aware" of what was happening, but made no further comment.
What else could be said, anyway? "Uh, yeah, we're fucked."
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:38 (twelve years ago) link
xp wooooow
This is crazy. I've got to interview someone discussed on this thread tomorrow - musician
Say hi to Mr. Michael for us!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Via twitter:
PaulLewisI've been at Sean Hoare's house. Police/ambulance there 11am-3pm. Then nothing. Story breaks. Forensics arrive 9pm.
I've been at Sean Hoare's house. Police/ambulance there 11am-3pm. Then nothing. Story breaks. Forensics arrive 9pm.
Hahaha Ned, unlike GM, this interviewee has never had a homosexual experience.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
Say hi to William Hague for us!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
looool
i mean just in the last 24 hours there's been
- the supposed suicide of a key whistleblower- a mysterious bag with computer and files in it found near rebekah brooks' house- hackers who claim to have snaffled all NOTW and the Sun's emails
in the 24 hrs before that there was rebekah brooks' arrest and the chief of scotland yard's resignation. this is starting to make "house of cards" look unimaginative
― 40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 July 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link