The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

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And now this?

BREAKING Former and current DPPs (Ken Macdonald and Keir Starmer) to give evidence to MPs on home affairs select cttee tomororrow
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:54 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

IIRC Ken Macdonald was an adulterer, what did NOTW have on him?

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link

Speaking to a Guardian reporter last week, Hoare repeatedly expressed the hope that the hacking scandal would lead to journalism in general being cleaned up and said he had decided to blow the whistle on the activities of some of his former News of the World colleagues with that aim in mind.

He also said he has been injured at a party the previous weekend while taking down a marquee erected for a children's party. He said he had broken his nose and badly injured his foot when a relative accidentally struck him with a heavy pole from the marquee.

Hoare also emphasised that he was not making any money from telling his story. Hoare, who has been treated for drug and alcohol problems, reminisced about partying with former pop stars and said he missed the days when he was able to go out on the town.

dear lord there is a freight of insinuation in these three paragraphs.

c sharp major, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

guys if somebody wanted Hoare out of the way this probly wasn't the best week?

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

what a weird coinkydink tho

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link

Not suggesting that - dude had some issues and 24/7 news cycle probably not adding much value to his mental health. As far as speaking out about Coulson, though, he was the canary in the mineshaft.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Must have been a hell of a pole to break a nose and injure a foot at the same time.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

Hmmm...

ExNOTWjourno2 Marie X
RIP Sean.. Now i'm really going to go for the jugular.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

And from our founder:

tomewing Tom Ewing
"The death is not being treated as suspicious, except by everyone reading about it."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link

18.19 Sean Hoare, who has reportedly been found dead, made fresh allegations against the News of the World last week in the New York Times.

"A former show-business reporter for The News of the World, Sean Hoare, who was fired in 2005, said that when he worked there, pinging cost the paper nearly $500 on each occasion. He first found out how the practice worked, he said, when he was scrambling to find someone and was told that one of the news desk editors, Greg Miskiw, could help. Mr. Miskiw asked for the person’s cellphone number, and returned later with information showing the person’s precise location in Scotland, Mr. Hoare said. Mr. Miskiw, who faces questioning by police on a separate matter, did not return calls for comment."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FZ2FA-epcE&feature=player_detailpage#t=70s

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:12 (twelve years ago) link

HackneyAbbott

IPCC investigating the Met Police top brass. I wouldn't worry too much, if I was Yates and co. IPCC a toothless tiger.
2 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

toothless tigers usually arent congenitally toothless tho

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

nick davies has a warm farewell piece for sean hoare up:

he had bought, sold and snorted cocaine with some of the most powerful names in tabloid journalism. One retains a senior position on the Daily Mirror. "I last saw him in Little Havana," he recalled, "at three in the morning, on his hands and knees. He had lost his cocaine wrap. I said to him, 'This is not really the behaviour we expect of a senior journalist from a great Labour paper.' He said, 'Have you got any fucking drugs?'"

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:26 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b7DgOeMnW4

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:31 (twelve years ago) link

guys if somebody wanted Hoare out of the way this probly wasn't the best week?

then again, if you wanted him out of the way and knew the police also had a vested interest in his removal, really the sooner the better - especially if you know the police will report it as 'not suspicious' no matter what

Michael B, Monday, 18 July 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

^^^also no idea how long he'd been there before they found him, yes?

Inquest, when?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:27 (twelve years ago) link

this is not the uk politics thread!

max, Monday, 18 July 2011 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

Think you're looking for the other thread dowd

xp

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:30 (twelve years ago) link

I thought this was the new UK pol thread and the other was locked! sorry about that - I guess the silence on the other confused me.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

The previous DEM-CON threas was locked, that one is the new one.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:34 (twelve years ago) link

Ah, I must have got lost between the two.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/18/mystery-bag-bin-rebekah-brooks

would be some real poetic justice in people rooting through a tabloid editor's bins preceding their downfall

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

it does sorta sound like the least believable story as yet presented in this saga

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.foxnewsuk.com/

ha ha ha ha jack my swag (boxedjoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

blowing whistles in heaven now

am0n, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

NYTimes goes in. HUGE amount of allegations, go nuts. Plus plenty of roffles:

Mr. Dacre, The Daily Mail editor, told his senior managers that he had received several reports from businesspeople, soccer stars and public relations agencies that the News International executives Will Lewis and Simon Greenberg had encouraged them to investigate whether their phones had been hacked by Daily Mail newspapers . “They thought it was unfair that all the focus was on The News of the World,” said one News International official with knowledge of the effort. The two men have told colleagues they did not make such calls, but two company officials disputed that.

Mr. Dacre confronted Ms. Brooks over breakfast at the plush Brown’s hotel. “You are trying to tear down the entire industry,” Mr. Dacre told her, according to an account he relayed to his management team.

Ms. Brooks, whose tenacity is legendary, was not deterred. At a dinner party, Lady Claudia Rothermere, the wife of the billionaire owner of The Daily Mail, overheard Ms. Brooks saying that The Mail was just as culpable as The News of the World. “We didn’t break the law,” Lady Rothermere said, according to two sources with knowledge of the exchange. Ms. Brooks asked who Lady Rothermere thought she was, “Mother Teresa?”

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

re: dacre, thought this was interesting:

Asked whether unlawful newsgathering techniques could ever be justified, he said: "Goodness me, deep waters. I have considerable sympathy that if there's a great public interest then those methods can be justified."

However, he added later: "I don't think you should ever use hacking or blagging as a [public interest] defence because they're criminal offences."

like how much room is he leaving here for diff readings of 'if there's a great public interest' - like there is an obvious defence when it's regarding genuine journalistic enquiry, but given that the daily mail peddles a lot of gutter bullshit about cellulite and celebrity affairs that, y'know, there's a great public interest in, it's p interesting.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

Mr. Murdoch was attending a conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, in early July when it became clear that the latest eruption of the hacking scandal was not, as he first thought, a passing problem. According to a person briefed on the conversation, he proposed to one senior executive that he “fly commercial to London,” so he might be seen as man of the people. He was told that would hardly do the trick, and he arrived on a Gulfstream G550 private jet.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

"Get me a ticket on Freddie Laker's airline."

Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

haha

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link

not really keeping up w/ this thread, but the wsj editorial about this is hilariously small-minded and cunty

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

The Bancrofts were admirable owners in many ways, but at the end of their ownership their appetite for dividends meant that little cash remained to invest in journalism. We shudder to think what the Journal would look like today without the sale to News Corp.

read: "our only loyalty is to power, you can basically ignore what we say"

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

Really don't think Lady Rothmere is as bad as Mother Teresa, to be fair.

henri grenouille (Frogman Henry), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

"The British politicians now bemoaning media influence over politics are also the same statesmen who have long coveted media support."

logic.ppt

goole, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

And how the WSJ will trumpet this:

9.26pm: Standard and Poor's have put News Corp on negative credit watch, according to the AFP news agency.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link

What time does it kick off tomorrow?

� (a hoy hoy), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:32 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14194623

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:54 (twelve years ago) link

Hmm.

10.00pm: Three Police officers carrying cameras and wearing white forensic suits arrived a short time ago at Sean Hoare's flat in Watford.
Fifteen minutes earlier, at about 9.15pm, a police van marked "Scientific Services Unit" pulled up at the address, a block of flats that the journalist moved into in November 2009.
The Press Association reports that two officers emerged carrying evidence bags, clipboards, torches and laptop-style bags and entered the building.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaow

a variable (sic) "League of Nations" (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link

Nothing suspicious here obviously.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

Fuck 'UK end of season finale', it's getting more like '24' end of season finale.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

One of the more ridiculous later seasons, too.

James Mitchell, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

Britain, you really have the best scandals ever.

StanM, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link

My mom has not fallen for the dismissal of the story a la Fox and is actually going to watch the Parliamentary hearing, even if she has to go to C-SPAN. I really hope this is her big Helen Keller moment with this shit. OTOH: "Who's the redhead? Is sex involved?"

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Monday, 18 July 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link

the hackers hacked:

http://whois.domaintools.com/new-times.co.uk

http://www.new-times.co.uk/sun/

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

now thesun.co.uk is redirecting to the hacked page.

joe, Monday, 18 July 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link


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