The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

neither of them have scored in the last 6 months

the appraisal of telegraph blogwriters and other assorted bankrupts is rather wishfully END TIMES

cameron is ~gonna get thru this~

not without a few kickings, still

slam dunk from NV

Cameron is kind of obligated to be on the back foot with all this. every additional word he says about it reminds people of his involvement with Coulson. his hands are tied.

A roffly detail:

The prime minister is currently en route on a foreign trip. His location is being kept a secret for security reasons, according to the BBC. However he was informed about Stephenson's resignation before flying and is being kept informed in the air.

"Called Siberia, I think, don't worry, plenty of room."

he will make a new life in mexico

for Cameron to go, I think it'll take somebody senior in the Government to deal the first blow. Can't see that happening.

yah pretty sure georgie never did that

Wasn't one K. Clarke famously anti-Murdoch at one point? He's been quite quiet too.

What a day this was. Cmon Tuesday already.

So where is Cameron that he needs to be secretive, Afghanistan - surely too dangerous currently (and hasn't he just been there)? Iraq? Scotland?

Australia, obv. Murdoch's mom is already getting her knife ready.

libya?

He's en route to South Africa.

any chance if cameron cred was destroted lib dems would make common cause w labour and form new coalition?

the lib dem leadership would need to be completely removed, don't think there are any likely insurgents from outside the cabinet

triumphant return of charlie kennedy would be fun tho

"Secondly, once Mr Wallis's name did become associated with Operation Weeting, I did not want to compromise the Prime Minister in any way by revealing or discussing a potential suspect who clearly had a close relationship with Mr Coulson. I am aware of the many political exchanges in relation to Mr Coulson's previous employment — I believe it would have been extraordinarily clumsy of me to have exposed the Prime Minister, or by association the Home Secretary, to any accusation, however unfair, as a consequence of them being in possession of operational information in this regard. Similarly, the Mayor. Because of the individuals involved, their positions and relationships, these were I believe unique circumstances.

I'm still trying to get to get to grips with this bit. It's late and I'm tired, can someone re-write it for me in one sentence?

"I'm a coward and I hate myself but I hate Cameron even more."

Dunno but Cam's guys are spinning vehemently against Stephenson as we speak. Nothing so entertaining as a falling out of thieves.

have we done this bit about honest copper Paul Stephenson yet?

Ahead of a planned appearance before MPs on Tuesday, it was revealed Sir Paul enjoyed a free three-week stay earlier this year at Champney’s, a leading health spa, following surgery. Champney’s was at the time employing Mr Wallis, a former News of the World journalist, who also gave public relations advice to the Met. The New York Times has also alleged Mr Wallis reported back to News International while he worked for the police.

Wait, so if nobody in politics, the press or the police can be trusted at face value anymore, who's going to investigate all of this? Are judges the only institution not yet involved?

clearly it will be arbitrated the the britain's got talent judges

BY the

"britain's got corruption"

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/13956-simon_cowell_really_musical_authority.jpg

"I don't mean to be rude but you all completely suck."

xps - it's ok, it was just a mate of his giving him £12k worth of bed and board for nought - no biggie...

this is by far the most entertaining political bloodbath i've seen, though more annuated ilx users will doubtless wish to have their say

w/r/t politics, if this claims tory scalps, so far i don't think labour's prospects are really better than they were a few weeks ago. miliband is doing no more than voicing public opinion; he's still a weak candidate without a convincing story about unemployment, economic restructuring, curbing the power of the banks and corporations, lowering the cost of living, etc etc etc. that isn't irrelevant to this crisis, which is partly about a conspiracy of what used openly and unironically to be called top people against everyone else.

It's basically down to the X-Factor panel, who have often been accused of vote rigging, but found to be innocent in every incident.

xpost I SAID IT FIRST!!

i was young and naive and optimistic but i think there was a moment during the Westland scandal when it really felt like Thatcher was on the way out. this is far more satisfying and far-reaching tho i think.

New Guardian piece

The Guardian has learned that Scotland Yard chiefs invited Wallis to apply for a senior communications post with the force in 2009, a decision Stephenson was aware of. Wallis was approached to apply for the two day a month contract by the Met, following discussions involving the forces's most senior figures.

A source with close knowledge of the Yard's thinking at the time said part of Wallis's attraction was his connection to former News of the World editor Coulson, who was a leading aide to Cameron, then in opposition and expected to become prime minister.

Part of the Met's thinking was that Wallis's connections would help the force's relationship with Cameron: "One (Wallis) is a lot cheaper and gives you direct access into No 10," the source added.

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

xxxp

The narrative that EMil is starting to develop is that once Wapping has been pulled down and the fields sown with salt, the political landscape of the country will change for the better and the Labour party will rise from its tomb and effect real social change free from the scaremongering of a Murdochite press.

This is bollocks obviously but

you'd have thought the mail could have picked a more suitable time to try and bring the bbc down but no

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2015829/Melanie-Phillips-If-Miliband-hero-wont-tackle-REAL-threat-way-life--BBC.html

this is by far the most entertaining political bloodbath i've seen, though more annuated ilx users will doubtless wish to have their say

http://enemiesofreason.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/11qhf7o.jpg

NEVER FORGET

But for years now, the BBC has instead been playing to the lowest common denominator

now i'm enough of a snob about the Beeb but nobody who's seen ITV or Sky's original programming cd write this with a straight face

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

Well that's kinda the point in all of this as I understand it, that HAD been happening all this time and no major traction came of it beyond Coulson's resignation a while back, though the new police investigation had been continuing. Then the news breaks about said teenager's phone and now we're here.

what would have happened with all this w/o the moral authority of the poor dead teenager's family? if it was just celebs and royals? would it have the same traction?

― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, July 17, 2011 11:16 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

answer is something like 'probably not'. notw staff were jailed for hacking royal/celeb phones years ago but the weirdly sustained fiction was that the editors knew nothing.

i was young and naive and optimistic but i think there was a moment during the Westland scandal when it really felt like Thatcher was on the way out. this is far more satisfying and far-reaching tho i think.

This is looking to be the scandal of a generation. The very fact that Rupert Murdoch is at the centre of it all and has no control whatsoever of the story speaks volumes.

The other considerable factor is the feeling that many politicians have broken loose of NI and seem incredibly excited about it.

He's en route to South Africa.

Someone else just said South America(which is a bit vague). Is is normally a secret when the PM goes abroad (to places that aren't war zones)?

xpost -- Yeah, that's the thing I'm sensing too, if only because part of the story seems to have clearly shifted to how NI in all its forms is reporting (or more to the point, not reporting or misreporting) the story. WSJ interview seen as crass defiance, Fox and Friends piece widely mocked of course, etc., and of course above all that the NotW closing -- rather than tone-setting it's all sounding like an extended flail. Ergo, if they try to attack any politician going at them, what exactly would it achieve?

I thought that when I read the Gordon Brown Is Going Mad Again piece in the STimes this morning. All a bit desperate.

you could see this as another example in a half decade full of them that there is a club at the top of society that appears to just shit on everyone for fun

^^^Apparently Ed Miliband is going to tie this into a culture of irresponsibility ie. bankers' behaviour and the like.

Miliband will use a speech in the City of London on Monday to widen his attack on Britain's "untouchables" – scandal-dogged bankers, politicians and now the media, who think they are above the law – by identifying other groups whose conduct puts them in the same category. After Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation the police too are expected to join the Labour leader's list.

^^^Guardian, just up...

that sounds promising. pretty much everyone who has worked in the_city deserves a mallet to the nuts tbqf.

Hmm seems a bit of a shit angle; this is strong enough on its own, it doesn't need a larger narrative. You dont want this to seem too big to fix; you want itbboiled down "here is a really clear and obvious crime: so sack x and y; do Z; all will be well". Not "oh woe what a massive systemic mess we are, the only answer is nothing simple or pat and leaves lots of room for argument"

Depends how he sells it, I guess. Oh.

Depends how he sells it, I guess. Oh.

haha. yerce.