The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

Course, if *Rupert* got arrested too...

As likely as Santa Claus getting arrested for breaking & entering.
Can't shake this feeling that the whole lot of them are going to get off scott free.

from that mail "What about the REAL problems?" post

The state records our emails, spies on our rubbish bins and uses airport X-ray machines to peer sneakily at our naked bodies.

Can't shake this feeling that the whole lot of them are going to get off scott free.

After Murdoch Jr. owned up to the payments? I think not.

it may yet happen. also no police arrested yet iirc. but the committee is a spectacle, an entertaining one sure but a spectacle. starting criminal proceedings against the guilty parties is much more important in the big scheme of things.

Course, if *Rupert* got arrested too...

Can't imagine their voters in the shires are impressed at all. The pressure must be huge.

This Iain Dale goon seems distinctly unnerved by the prospect

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

Was just reading comments on the Telegraph and quite a lot of the top-rated comments were variations on "he must go." And that was the Telegraph.

the telegraph doesn't live cameron though, ever. comments boxes man.

'love'

Who would become PM then though? The cabinet is useless. I guess it'd have to be David Davis.

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

― dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:49 PM (24 seconds ago) Bookmark

can i just nick clegg

It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.

Anyway if Blair could survive after Iraq I'm sure Cameron will be fine.

cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation.

Blair was not clearly implicated in criminal activity, sorry SWP fans. Cameron, as hm says, is drowning here. Surely it's time for Ann Widdecombe to form a government of national unity.

x-post OTM. Camerons been outpaced by the story at every point.

can i just nick clegg

omg the idea of this

bring back attlee

who have the Tories got who's far enough out of the loop to take over as PM without being in the same situation in 2 weeks time?

who does labour have &c &c

i said days ago at least nobody can accuse the Lib Dems of being too close to NI. or anybody else

no lex absolutely this doesn't help the revivified corpse of the Labour party one iota. if anything, electorally this ought to play well for the LDs except you know that wd be logical or something

prolego otm and i dont see wtf shaun wright-phillips has to do with it tbh

No idea, isn't the chancellor first in line for this kind of thing? He's been very quiet recently though. Would love to know what they have on him.

I had to check the PM page on wiki for backup and found this lovely official Cameron photo on there.

there's always boris.

the chancellor was the one who recommended coulson! though that could have been a ruthless move aimed at eventually destorying cameron. he's very ambition.

xp

George has problems with escort and coke, yes?

It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks. They only tolerated him initially because he was reasonably popular. If that starts to slip, he might have trouble within the party. On the one hand, his cuts have probably been aggressive enough for most of them, on the other, he hasn't been particularly hardline on Europe or law and order. I'm sure that the whole party had fed from the NI trough at one point but none are tied so closely or would make such a convenient sacrifice. I can't really see it happening though. Who would step in? Pickles? Davies?

Also interesting to think about what the ostensible removal of the Murdoch influence might mean for his personal politics moving forward.

problems?

It'll be interesting to see how much pressure there is from the Tory right / Telegraph / Mail on Cameron in the next few weeks.

Already kicking in:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100097264/sir-paul-stephenson-resigns-this-is-grave-news-for-david-cameron/

PIIICKLLLLLLLLLLLEEESSS

Cameron speaks:

Sir Paul Stephenson has had a long and distinguished career in the police, and I would like to thank him for his service over many, many years.
Under his leadership the Metropolitan Police made good progress in fighting crime, continued its vital work in combating terrorism, and scored notable successes such as the policing of the Royal Wedding.
While I know that today must be a very sad occasion for him, I respect and understand his decision to leave the Met, and I wish him well for the future.
What matters most of all now is that the Metropolitan Police and the Metropolitan Police Authority do everything possible to ensure the investigations into phone hacking and alleged police corruption proceed with all speed, with full public confidence and with all the necessary leadership and resources to bring them to an effective conclusion.

From Osborne's last speech three days ago!

We have discussed chocolate biscuits, Tupperware, secret treaties and what Mr Skinner said in 1971, the year in which I was born.

NADINE DORRIES FOR PM

Loving waking up atm. Every day is like xmas.

This doesn't look good for ERII either, this all happened during her reign. Can we expect a "One abdicates" speech over this too?

Maybe Liz, Charles, and Wills can all abdicate one after the other, leaving Harry as king?

I mean, a guy who wears a Nazi to a fancy dress party has got to make the government look good by comparison.

Nazi uniform
oh dear...

Let it cascade down to Beatrice, who can become queen only if she wears that hat all day.

Wearing a Nazi is the in thing, don't you know.

'ere, guvnor, I 'ad that Goebbells on me 'ead last week!

Ow man, we're gonna need a bigger boatload of popcorn if all of that happens.

It's Cameron's involvement that makes me think that they're all going to get out of this relatively unscathed. Junior takes one for the team and does time in an open prison, getting let out early for 'good behaviour', but that's about it.

― Servants of the SBankh (snoball), Sunday, July 17, 2011 9:51 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark

returning to this, if the met is like every other organization of human beings in history, those slightly lower in the hierarchy will want to fill the power vacuum left by the departure of the discredited former top brass. so some part of justice may be served by their ambition, kind of thing.

Pippa will probably end up Queen.

lol @ dorries for PM.
& i had the same holy shit! feeling at wondering if clegg could somehow become PM out of this. it would be so amazing. it would be worth how terrible it would be just for how awkward it would be.

cameron doesn't control events, no-one does. there are conspiracies, sure, but cameron is clearly not on top of this situation

yeah for the talk of osbourne being quiet i really do think it's weird that cameron's been so useless w/this - you'd have thought he'd be trying to get ahead of the story, & wonder if there's a fear of something that's stopping him from doing so.

also waking up every morning knowing more of this shit is coming OTM. there was a comment is free piece about how this 'isn't britain's worst crisis', which sort of misses the point, that it's britain's best crisis.

Surely the Tory Right would rather be in Opposition than have Clegg as PM?

they mayn't have a choice?

theresa may preparing to give a statement at 10pm on a sunday makes me feel like she might've killed bin laden?, or at least the bin laden of this story, rupert murdoch?