The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

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before it gets lost under all the brooks stuff, & w/apologies for continuing to just c+p from the guardian liveblog verbatim, i thought this was interesting:

Just 24 hours before news broke that Milly Dowler's mobile had been hacked, Elisabeth Murdoch and her husband Matthew Freud hosted a gathering of the UK's political and media elite at their Costwolds mansion. According to The Mail on Sunday, Guests included Peter Mandelson, the BBC's Mark Thompson and Robert Peston, Labour MP David Miliband, Conservative education secretary Michael Gove, Tory policy guru Steve Hilton, his wife, Google communications chief Rachel Whetstone, Rebekah Brooks and James Murdoch.

like so much of what's fascinating about this (to me, dilettante) is getting a window into the texture of the whole world these people occupied, how often they lunched & fraternised. & d miliband & brooks & the murdochs hanging out just seems like such a fucking underworld, like seriously when i imagine this soiree it is happening in the batcave, it is intriguing to me.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:38 (six years ago) Permalink

conspiring to intercept communications

is this the same charge everyone else is under, & what phone-hacking is categorised as btw? i just wondered if it might refer to one of the other supposed offences

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:40 (six years ago) Permalink

like so much of what's fascinating about this (to me, dilettante) is getting a window into the texture of the whole world these people occupied, how often they lunched & fraternised. & d miliband & brooks & the murdochs hanging out just seems like such a fucking underworld, like seriously when i imagine this soiree it is happening in the batcave, it is intriguing to me.

it's def something which i want to see more analysis of, because in one sense it's like - duh, of course they're friends. why wouldn't they be? it's natural to socialise with people you meet in your professional life. it's natural for networking to elide with actual friendship among people who have similar interests and personalities. that's not a grand conspiracy, everyone does it. but riven through it are all these deeply gory interpersonal details (eg brooks and the browns) and the sense of having to navigate this minefield of fake friendship even amid the real frienships...it reminds me of, like, a medieval royal court or something.

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

really wonder how the crisis would have been different if david milliband was the opposition leader, as ed has been so aggressive in all of this.

also wonder if rebekah has been arrested so she doesn't have to go in front of the commons committee on tuesday.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:47 (six years ago) Permalink

She'll be out in time to go to the HCMS committee. Coulson was out after a long day of being held.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:52 (six years ago) Permalink

it'll provide her with an "ongoing police matter" out for every question though :/

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:53 (six years ago) Permalink

They all need to go under oath on Tuesday.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 12:58 (six years ago) Permalink

mps will probably use some unused powers dating back to the 14th century to drag her from jail to get her to that committee if they have to.

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 13:42 (six years ago) Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/U3uc6.png

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

wtf

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 17 July 2011 14:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh FFS. Which news outlet is that?

emil.y, Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Yahoo! News

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Yahoo News seem to have a general problem with justification of images in their rolling news bits...decapitations are common.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

oh if only

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

HEH

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Sunday, 17 July 2011 16:20 (six years ago) Permalink

A+

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 July 2011 16:30 (six years ago) Permalink

18.20 Channel 4 is reporting that the Serious Fraud Office is now involved in the investigation of News International

Can UK folks tell me what this means in terms of ratcheting up pressure? Is this an SEC equivalent?

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

lol that sounds so fake

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Fraud, For Serious

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Some followup:

18.23 Tom Watson MP apparently wrote to the SFO to ask them investigate whether management had failed in its responsibilities to share holders. The SFO won't confirm or deny its investigation and News International are saying they've had no contact from investigators.

18.27 Channel 4 seems to be slightly back tracking now, stressing that the SFO aren't necessarily investigating but they have been asked to.

So who knows.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

lol i thought the serious fraud office had been shut down

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

@rblandford: Mick Hucknall arrested by accident.

bernerrrrr! berrrrrnowwww.... (Eazy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Sir Paul Stephenson has just resigned.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

ooh, any indication why?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

these girls fall like dominoes...

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

ooh, any indication why?

― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, July 17, 2011 7:36 PM (31 seconds ago) Bookmark

loool

so brycey (history mayne), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Can we place bets on the next resignation?

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

So how long until Yates goes, at this rate...

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:38 (six years ago) Permalink

Stephenson just now:

I have this afternoon informed the Home Secretary and the Mayor of my intention to resign as Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police Service.
I have taken this decision as a consequence of the ongoing speculation and accusations relating to the Met's links with News International at a senior level and in particular in relation to Mr Neil Wallis who as you know was arrested in connection with Operation Weeting last week.
I had no knowledge of, or involvement in, the original investigation into phone hacking in 2006 that successfully led to the conviction and imprisonment of two men. I had no reason to believe this was anything other than a successful investigation. I was unaware that there were any other documents in our possession of the nature that have now emerged.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

murdoch minor then cameron please

lex pretend, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost "Basically, I suck."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

wow

prolego, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Firstly, I want to say what an enormous privilege it has been for me to lead this great organisation that is the Met. The recent example of the heroism and bravery of Met officers in chasing armed suspects, involving the shooting of one of my officers, is typical; but is in danger of being eclipsed by the ongoing debate about relationships between senior officers and the media. This can never be right.

Crime levels in the Met are at a ten year low. You have seen the Met at its glorious and unobtrusive best on the occasion of the royal wedding; the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations; the vital ongoing work to secure the safety of the capital from terrorism; the reductions in homicide; and continuing increased levels of confidence as the jewel in our crown of Safer Neighbourhoods Teams serve the needs of Londoners.

Etc. etc. "please love me"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

'Coming soon our new tough talking Sun on Sunday columnist Sir Paul Stephenson.'

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

'restrained approach' as in didn't actually kill anyone this time around

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost -- "The establishment is too soft on crime and the police are clearly corrupt."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations
the professional and restrained approach to unexpected levels of violence in recent student demonstrations

BAD COP NO DOUGHNUT

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

psyched for when they take this series to film

maurice flitcoz (cozen), Sunday, 17 July 2011 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I'll have better Peter Morgan gossip this time, next week...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Your wonderful London mayor:

I was very sad and very reluctant to accept Sir Paul Stephenson's resignation.
Sir Paul is widely admired by men and women in the police service in London.
He felt this whole business was going to make things very very difficult for him in the months ahead in the run up to the Olympics, and he didn't want that kind of distraction.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

And more from Stephenson:

"The purpose of that meeting was, as with other journalists, to represent the context of policing and to better inform the public debate carried out through the media on policing issues.

I had no knowledge of, or involvement in, the original investigation into phone hacking in 2006 that successfully led to the conviction and imprisonment of two men. I had no reason to believe this was anything other than a successful investigation. I was unaware that there were any other documents in our possession of the nature that have now emerged.

I have acknowledged the statement by John Yates that if he had known then what he knows now he would have made different decisions.

My relationship with Mr Wallis continued over the following years and the frequency of our meetings is a matter of public record. The record clearly accords with my description of the relationship as one maintained for professional purposes and an acquaintance.

In 2009 the Met entered into a contractual arrangement with Neil Wallis, terminating in 2010. I played no role in the letting or management of that contract.

I have heard suggestions that we must have suspected the alleged involvement of Mr Wallis in phone hacking. Let me say unequivocally that I did not and had no reason to have done so. I do not occupy a position in the world of journalism; I had no knowledge of the extent of this disgraceful practice and the repugnant nature of the selection of victims that is now emerging; nor of its apparent reach into senior levels."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Okay come ON dude:

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8.10pm: Stephenson also addressed the allegation that the contractual relationship with Wallis was kept secret:

"The contracting of Mr Wallis only became of relevance when his name became linked with the new investigation into phone hacking. I recognise that the interests of transparency might have made earlier disclosure of this information desirable. However my priority, despite the embarrassment it might cause, has been to maintain the integrity of Operation Weeting. To make it public would have immediately tainted him and potentially compromised any future Operation Weeting action."

He said the reasons for not telling David Cameron and Theresa May about the relationship with Wallis were "two fold":

"Firstly, I repeat my earlier comments of having at the time no reason for considering the contractual relationship to be a matter of concern. Unlike Mr Coulson, Mr Wallis had not resigned from News of the World or, to the best of my knowledge been in any way associated with the original phone hacking investigation.

Secondly, once Mr Wallis's name did become associated with Operation Weeting, I did not want to compromise the prime minister in any way by revealing or discussing a potential suspect who clearly had a close relationship with Mr Coulson. I am aware of the many political exchanges in relation to Mr Coulson's previous employment - I believe it would
have been extraordinarily clumsy of me to have exposed the prime minister, or by association the home secretary, to any accusation, however unfair, as a consequence of them being in possession of operational information in this regard. Similarly, the mayor. Because of the individuals involved, their positions and relationships, these were
I believe unique circumstances.

Consequently, we informed the chair of the MPA, Mr Malthouse, of the Met's contractual arrangements with Mr Wallis on the morning of the latter's arrest. It is our practice not to release the names of suspects under arrest, making it difficult to make public details of the
arrangements prior to Mr Wallis's release the same day. The timing of the MPA committee that I appeared before at 2pm that day was most unfortunate."

8.16pm: Speaking about his free stay worth £12,000 at Champneys health farm where Wallis was also acting as PR agent, Stephenson again denied all allegations of impropriety:

"There has been no impropriety and I am extremely happy with what I did and the reasons for it - to do everything possible to return to running the Met full time, significantly ahead of medical, family and friends' advice. The attempt to represent this in a negative way is both cynical and disappointing.

I thought it necessary to provide this lengthy and detailed account of my position on aspects of the current media questions and speculation concerning my conduct. I do this to provide the backcloth to the main purpose of this statement."

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:22 (six years ago) Permalink

dunno why the press are still going on about this minor insular non-story

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:24 (six years ago) Permalink

I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did I am extremely happy with what I did

Aimless, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

On Friday, Carl Bernstein said:

it is evident to him the events of the past week "are the beginning, not the end, of the seismic event".

Dude was right.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

A shame that Sir Paul has to resign on a full pension now rather than face an investigation and lose some nominal amount of his money.

James Mitchell, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:35 (six years ago) Permalink


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