The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

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TS: criminal negligence vs. actively rolling in the muck

Josef K-Doe (WmC), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Three down surely? xp

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

James Murdoch hasn't sent a grovelling resignation letter yet. But I would kill to read it.

"Dear Dad, my bad, so sad."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Extra points if he raps it.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

xp - but that's Coulson at the back next to Brooks.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:35 (six years ago) Permalink

It is, isn't it. There's a general short-hair-and-glasses douchebag quality around Murdoch that seems to smooth them all out.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Here one of Murdoch's mastheads published this accusing one of its competing papers of "hacking hypocrisy". Editor-in-chief of the accused paper shot it down in flames.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway, Murdoch speaks:

“Les and I have been on a remarkable journey together for more than 52 years. That this passage has come to an unexpected end, professionally, not personally, is a matter of much sadness to me,” commented Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and CEO of News Corporation.

“On this difficult day we should appreciate that his extraordinary work has provided a platform for the future success of Dow Jones. And his great contribution to News Corporation over more than five decades has enhanced innumerable lives, whether those of employees hired by him or of readers better informed because of him.

"News Corporation is not Rupert Murdoch. It is the collective creativity and effort of many thousands of people around the world, and few individuals have given more to this Company than Les Hinton.”

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:39 (six years ago) Permalink

As the Telegraph notes, "The fact that the press release carries a nice tribute from Murdoch makes you wonder how long Hinton's resignation has been in the works."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Are these resignations orchestrated to wrap up the agenda for the week? I know Murdoch would love nothing more than to start next week with an agenda that's not about him.

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

(and tbh I don't believe it would work anyway)

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:45 (six years ago) Permalink

He and his son are facing that committee on Tuesday, all of Monday will be nothing but 'what will he say?' Interspersed with announcements that the Sun has been sold to Borders for immediate liquidation, the ceremonial destruction of Wapping with the people still in the buildings and Chase Carey and Roger Ailes coming over to talk about how British people suck.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:46 (six years ago) Permalink

"News Corporation is not Rupert Murdoch" seems a really significant quote right now

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah. I don't think Murdoch has a great deal of control over this particular narrative.

xp yes it does (and a lie)

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that quote's getting a lot of immediate attention, I'm noticing.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink


Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:48 (six years ago) Permalink

monty burns' mother

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

dear old thing

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 20:51 (six years ago) Permalink

I appreciate how she is not so much cutting that cake as simply outright murdering it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

is that pic of rebekah in the now-locked cleggeron thread a current one? if so, can't believe she'd pin a sarah payne badge to her dress.....

whatever, Friday, 15 July 2011 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I presume it's from when the NOTW campaigned for "Sarah's Law".

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Would any of you recommend a simple explanation of what this is all about? I understand that phone hacking was involved, but why is this having such long legs politically? I just don't get this story but I want to!

Euler, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:12 (six years ago) Permalink

The short version is that a lot of people had their privacy violated, including celebrities, politicians and people with close ties to famous Britain incidents like the Tube bombing.

The outrage is due to a case involving a 12?-year-old girl who was missing for days who was later found murdered; her family kept calling her phone to find her, leaving messages that filled up her voicemail, and the hackers kept deleting them to make more space so they could get more info, leading the family to believe she was alive when she wasn't.

Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:15 (six years ago) Permalink

What he said. Further:

Guardian's overview page:

But of course there's always...

On top of all that, the connections/collusion between various papers, London police and the major parties of government are why this thing has major legs.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:17 (six years ago) Permalink

It has long legs politically because almost every politician in the country has been in thrall to Murdoch for decades and they've finally broken the spell xxp

Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:18 (six years ago) Permalink

euler, i thought it was because of suggestions/rumors/evidence that the sun and perhaps other newscorp companies had been using similar, criminal techniques to shut down police investigation into them, intimidate politicians, and generally enjoy a great deal of political influence, so that the knowledge of their criminal activity in some cases has led to suspicion that they're thoroughly rotten (and can be publicly, i.e. politically, pursued for it). xxxp

j., Friday, 15 July 2011 21:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Also former execs from NI being on the police payroll while the police were trying to tell the Guardian 'nothing to see here, mate'.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Yep, former NI execs on the police payroll and former police chiefs / prosecutors who were meant to be looking into the criminality on the NI payroll.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:24 (six years ago) Permalink

aaaaaargh no Newsnight.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:32 (six years ago) Permalink

fuck golf

prolego, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:41 (six years ago) Permalink

ok this helps!

Euler, Friday, 15 July 2011 21:43 (six years ago) Permalink

the prime minister employed as communications chief the ex-editor of the 'news of the world', who had quit after two of his employees had been jailed for hacking voicemails.

the police didn't investigate the editor at the time [because of close and in common parlance corrupt links between the police and news corp/news international] but 'most people' went along with the idea that, though he was editor, he had no idea about the hacking.

the last two weeks have blown that story to smithereens and so part of the story is about the cravenness of politicians on both sides towards murdoch. cameron had been set to give murdoch an even greater share of the uk television market -- which was already controversial.

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 21:58 (six years ago) Permalink

they should get Morrissey to release "Suedehead '11" for this

― she choots, she pah! (DJP), Friday, 15 July 2011 08:26 (7 hours ago) Bookmark

We had to sneak into your phone
just to hear your voicemails

kinder, Friday, 15 July 2011 23:10 (six years ago) Permalink

Appropriately Freudian Freudian slip about a famous Freud in the newspaper famously famed for its slips:

It also quotes Matthew Freud, Elisabeth's wife, something that is unlikely to please the PR man who has been as invisible as he can the last two weeks.

James Mitchell, Saturday, 16 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

has anybody done a "Will the Last One Out of News Corp Turn Out the Lights?" gif yet

dave lool (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 July 2011 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

long nyt article about the extent of the relaysh between scotland yard and news int

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

At a parliamentary committee hearing last week, three current and former officials who ran the case were openly mocked. One member of Parliament dubbed an investigator “more Clouseau than Colombo.”

At the hearing, the senior investigator in charge of the day-to- day inquiry, Peter Clarke, blamed The News of the World’s “complete lack of cooperation” for the shortcomings in the department’s initial investigation.

While editors were not sharing any information, they were frequently breaking bread with police officers. Andy Hayman, who as head of the counterterrorism unit was running the investigation, also attended four dinners, lunches and receptions with News of the World editors, including a dinner on April 25, 2006, while his officers were gathering evidence in the case, records show. He told Parliament he never discussed the investigation with editors.

Mr. Hayman left the Metropolitan Police in December 2007 and was soon hired to write a column for The Sunday Times, a News International paper. He defended the inquiry that he led, writing in his column in July 2009 that his detectives had “left no stone unturned.”

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

On Friday, The New York Times learned that the former editor, Neil Wallis, was reporting back to News International while he was working for the police on the hacking case.

Executives and others at the company also enjoyed close social ties to Scotland Yard’s top officials. Since the hacking scandal began in 2006, Mr. Yates and others regularly dined with editors from News International papers, records show. Sir Paul Stephenson, the Metropolitan Police commissioner, met for lunch or dinner 18 times with company executives and editors during the investigation, including eight occasions with Mr. Wallis while he was still working at The News of the World.

max, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

just a little dining, no big deal

caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

the hayman interview is on the youtubes apparently, it's pretty lol

so brycey (history mayne), Saturday, 16 July 2011 19:13 (six years ago) Permalink

since May 2010 the Prime Minister met 26 times with Rupert Murdoch, his son James Murdoch, or former News International head Rebekah Brooks. That's nearly once every two weeks. Or as The Times put it: "His meetings with the Murdoch officials exceeded all his encounters with other British media representatives put together."

p damning statistic

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink


@tom_watson If what I have just heard is true, there will have to be a major resignation tomorrow.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:22 (six years ago) Permalink

man there is such teasing going on with this! if something breaks tomorrow it'd be through the papers, wouldn't it? i don't know if it's just because of the bbc thing but things have seemed to slow down a lot over the weekend.

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:31 (six years ago) Permalink

guy's other tweets seem sorta nonplussed by people throwing around the idea of cameron resigning at some point

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

sunday papers are already out so if there is something it's probably not in them

caek, Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:36 (six years ago) Permalink

We've been caught.
The News of the World was in the business of catching other people. It failed when it came to not getting caught itself.
We are sorry we've been caught.
We are deeply sorry for the hurt we as individuals have suffered by getting caught.
We regret not acting faster to prevent ourselves being caught.
We realise that simply apologising won't change the fact we've been caught. But it might start to give the corrupt politicians and policemen we rely upon to look after us an excuse to start looking after us again.
Our business was founded on the idea that if we owned the press we would be immune from being caught. Your vindictive little country didn't live up to this.
In the coming days as we take further concrete steps to try to obscure the issues and limit the damage caused you will hear more bullshit from us.
― frankiemachine, Friday, July 15, 2011 12:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark


by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:41 (six years ago) Permalink

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