Mark E, The Revenge & Slow-Motion House/Disco

Belvide Beat could do with a 12"

I am absolutely obsessed with Matthew Kyle at the moment. Really captures that awesome throbbing intensity vibe that I love about the best of this stuff but with this really voluptuous deployment of soul as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUE2rH14uX0

He's got some awesome DJ mixes available on his soundcloud also. Some of the most consistently beautiful mixes I've heard:

http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/live-rhythm-brunch-july-31st

http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/disconnected-021

I'd like to stick my hand up high for the new Massimiliano Pagliara LP, Focus for Infinity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkpxuMfiNak&feature=BFa&list=AV4oVf-d_DwKDFcDgtZia1jg7aKp6wdgsl&index=2

Got this off the amazing Matthew Kyle live at Rhythm & Brunch set I told you bitches to download. Astounding:

http://soundcloud.com/cisco_cisco/cisco-cisco-higher-original

Cisco Cisco - Higher.

"Brothers In Arms" by these dudes is also amazing:

http://soundcloud.com/cisco_cisco/cisco-cisco-higher-original

Spent the weekend listening to Matthew Kyle. Top notch, esp the disconnected mix.

"Honey Sugar" is his most played track on soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/honey-sugar . Here's the Tyrone Davis song it edits, new to me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcXINw4MAY

feeling the new toomy disco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHHJHysXhrs

this remix isnt slo-mo but i like it too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PHZ7sI9eOA

So fucking beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntVd3YpRtiQ

seems both mark-e and the revenge have abandoned this sound now, ive done gigs with both recently and wasnt really feeling what theyre plying, slightly harder and faster with none vocals or cheeky samples that made their names. Perhaps a reaction to getting bigger gigs?

i think it probably is a reaction to those bigger gigs, and it's weird that all the interesting aspects of their earlier sounds keep getting washed out over time as they play at bigger and bigger clubs. it's not like it's impossible to draw out a faster song and treat it in a similar way to all the slomo stuff, so abandoning that sound really doesn't make much sense to me.

idk if lovebirds fit this category but this one is a nice example of how to ramp up those bpms and keep things idiosyncratic...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzU42usvGKo

what did these old revenge records sound like?

looks kind of like house-influenced big beat or vice versa. maybe they are just moving back to that sound now that edits are kind of passe.

i think one of things abt a lot of these tracks is that while they seem DJ-oriented i dont get the impression that being a good DJ is necessarily reflective of being a good producer of songs like this. that at some level, they are sort of at odds

i mean thats at some level a 'well duh' kind of thing but i think its partic true with the slow motion stuff

what do you mean? i have some questions about what you're getting at.

what seems dj-oriented about these tracks? what makes tracks dj oriented (as opposed to merely seeming like it). what makes a good dj? a good producer of songs like this? how are they at odds?

i guess what i mean is, there are producers, and there are DJs, and producers who make songs people like end up becoming DJs, and that while they may have DJ'd before producing now they are suddenly booking more & more (and bigger) gigs, and suddenly they find that certain kinds of songs work better at certain times in sets, and that all-slow-motion-all-the-time can actually be pretty monotonous, so they start 'finding themselves' as DJs and subsequently lose the particular magic/distinctiveness of their producer-ly days as they start diversifying. Something is gained, something lost

this is a generalization

i havent seen any new Revenge sets or anything

oh i see this is not specific to "slow motion house"

well doesnt have to be but seems like it could be applicable in this case?

was just spitballin

yeah i think it is sort of a "condition" afflicting all of dance music ... the DJ / producer divide. although often that leads down a boring trail (functionalism vs auterism, etc).

i was more wondering if you thought there was a specific reason that line of thought was particularly applicable to this style, except for the fact that it seems like these guys are sorta flailing at the moment.

remember reading an early interview with Mark E as he was first (and fast) becoming a name, and he hit on at least one angle of what you're saying, D-40, and spoke about tempo. He was like yeah, I make this slow stuff because it's funky and fun but when I DJ it's a lot of uptempo house that I love with this slower stuff dappled here and there at the right moments.

It reminded me of Michael Mayer in '04 saying schaffel was never meant to be The Sound of a whole night or mix or whatever, but rather dropped in to enhance the atmosphere. 'Course looking back Kompakt didn't really practice what he preached, what with whole mixes of the stuff and whatnot

moonship- do you actually want to know what those tracks sound like? or were you positing that the revenge were uptempo to begin with?

i think linkwood has fared the best with more uptempo sounds, eg "electricity" and ESPECIALLY "one" (or dirty love or w/e was the first track on that 'from the vaults' release)

"get up on it" is pretty rad, very in line with the first releases on instruments of rapture. the vocal sample is relatively cheeky too i suppose, has nothing to do with big beat to my knowledge

no, i actually want to know what that stuff sounds like ... when i first got into slo mo house i scoured the net for those five20east singles but it seems like they never really made it to mp3

they look like big beat albums to my eyes, but as i said, i've never heard them.

yeah i think it is sort of a "condition" afflicting all of dance music ... the DJ / producer divide. although often that leads down a boring trail (functionalism vs auterism, etc).

i was more wondering if you thought there was a specific reason that line of thought was particularly applicable to this style, except for the fact that it seems like these guys are sorta flailing at the moment.

― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Thursday, September 8, 2011 3:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

oh well i would theorize that, in particular, slow mo disco doesnt seem particularly fun back to back to back in a dj set ... lots of dance movements come out of ~dance scenes~ as opposed to this which feels more producer-led

part of this is that i dont think ive ever been to a party or club where more than 1-2 tracks 'like this' were played where ppl were actually dancing

but maybe im outside the loop on that one

typically shift into idk whatever hercules & love azari & Cut Copy track is hot at the moment

anyway time for the ILX premier (i think?) of my fav slow dance jam '11!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8opdoJcppk

part of this is that i dont think ive ever been to a party or club where more than 1-2 tracks 'like this' were played where ppl were actually dancing

― D-40, Thursday, September 8, 2011 2:52 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but maybe im outside the loop on that one

― D-40, Thursday, September 8, 2011 2:52 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark

for some reason i always picture the 'heart' of this scene being some musty northern uk pub with lots of pasty looking dudes in track jackets

oh, and for vah1d

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5LcvEvWwiY

i think 2011 has especially been a bummer year for this stuff because all these guys are now releasing full length albums, and this is a sound (as deej noted) that really gets stale when played back to back for considerable amounts of time. at least we got a few good cuts on the mark e and 6th borough lps, and everything tiger & woods has put out this year just keeps sounding better the more times i hear it

yes! especially

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXKK21bHJ_4

i'd like a whole album by these guys atually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T5icZQgpT8

no ones gonna step into a club they got booked to play and drop a whole set of this stuff, especially past midnight, and especially if they're the out-of-town headliner.

no dj is an island, etc.

i cant remember what track it was, but i was playing something straight off of this thread at this lounge bar i had a regular gig at. i'd always stay in this style from about 9:00 or 10:00 PM until about 11:30, slowly working my way from below 100 bpm up to around 116 over the course of an hour or two. about a half hour in to my set, (and a good 6 minutes in to the track i was playing), the bar was just starting to fill up, and this past-middle-aged sex-in-the-city looking lady got up from her s eataround the corner, walked up to my booth, gave me an exasperated look and just exclaimed "switch it up please!! its getting monotonous!!!"

i can't remember but i think i might have been playing this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdjqnB9Ns6c

and then she was all "If this is house..."

ha otm.

that is 6th borough's best song imo

"just a memory", surely.

no ones gonna step into a club they got booked to play and drop a whole set of this stuff, especially past midnight, and especially if they're the out-of-town headliner.

I've seen the Revenge play post-midnight sets of all his own stuff when he's the out-of-hemisphere headiner

once he did a front-room and a back-room set, and all but about five people ditched the main room for the slower-mo Revenge second set

(first set might not have been his own shit, I don't remember)

I could still dance to "Rnb Drunkie" for hours if I had the chance to.

would totally dance post midnight to this stuff. For hours. If the 'chill' thing managed to find a club audience then I don't really see why this can't. I guess we're living in a post Ibiza morning after continue clubbing world though. Wonder how this stuff is going down in Europe actually.

goddamn this suzanne kraft ep on running back nails this slo mo disco thing, such a grower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueRVOTr1zbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNkxpvI0Gzw

This Matthew Kyle mix of tunes from his new label is great, love this dude's aesthetic so much:

http://soundcloud.com/matthew_kyle/not-knowing-your-wildest

Washed Out - You and I (Dave Wrangler Dub)
Heion - Not Knowing (In The Woods - Coming Soon)
Heion - Get On (In The Woods - Coming Soon
Tina Turner - Never In Your Wildest Dreams (Magellanic Cloud Edit)
Heion - Off (In The Woods - Coming Soon)
Kartell - Love Strike
Joseph Terruel - Thinkin' About You (In The Woods - Coming Soon)
Matthew Kyle & Cuetec - Momentum (Audio Parallax - Coming Soon)
Cuetec - Early Sun
Joseph Terruel - A Dark Day Like Today
Al Usher - Lullaby For Robert (Bogdan Irkak Remix)
Ecxellior - Danse La France (She Said Disco Remix)
Joseph Terruel - La Bella Durmiente (In The Woods - Coming Soon)

Would Erdbeerschnitzel count ITT? What I've heard of his stuff is :-D :-D

yea i think he counts, and yes his stuff is amazing. just picked up the always remain ep, looking forward to giving it a listen

Does this count? This is something I love (Newworldaquarium: "Star Power", 2007):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfahxUkPmLA

And what about this? (Kassem Mosse: "Demo Drums")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edBQgDwmBIk&feature=related