will Ichiro make it to 200 hits this year?

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System, Sunday, 10 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

I was thinking about this today...because really, what else is there to think about?

If I were a manager, and I had to choose between five years of Ichiro at his best or five years of Bobby Abreu at his best, I'd probably take Abreu. Even accounting for defense and speed, I think Abreu would be worth more to the team. It'd be close--if nothing else, you'd have more flexibility with Abreu.

If I were a HOF voter seven or eight years from now and I had the same choice, I'd vote Ichiro in a second. That is probably an indefensible contradiction to a lot of people, but the Hall of Fame to me is not, strictly speaking, the Hall of Sabermetrics or Hall of WAR. 90-95% of the time it is. But there are exceptions, and Ichiro would be one of them for me.

clemenza, Monday, 11 July 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

"If I were a manager, and I had to choose between five years of Ichiro at his best or five years of Bobby Abreu at his best, I'd probably take Abreu."

I'd take Ichiro (and I'd make him play CF) in a second. The difference between their defense is bigger than their offense. Plus Ichiro's best years post-27 were better than anything Abreu achieved in his entire career.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 11 July 2011 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

the consistency of his excellence, and its longevity, make him a lock imo

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 July 2011 13:05 (twelve years ago) link

come on, an uninterrupted decade of 200+ hits. dayum.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 July 2011 13:06 (twelve years ago) link

love that guy. even when he was with the yankees i loved him.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Monday, 11 July 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link

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System, Monday, 11 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

2 for 24 in last 5 games

velko, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 05:27 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Ichiro Suzuki bolstered his chances at another 200-hit season by going 4-for-5 with a home run as the Seattle Mariners topped the visiting Kansas City Royals 7-3 on Friday.

Ichiro, vying to become the first major leaguer to reach the 200-hit plateau in 11 straight seasons, is 33 shy with 18 games remaining.

buzza, Saturday, 10 September 2011 06:00 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ZpHr5l0U0

omar little, Saturday, 10 September 2011 07:23 (twelve years ago) link

two weeks pass...

no

― buzza

buzza, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 03:29 (twelve years ago) link

so what happens in two days? does Ichiro do the honourable thing?

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Ask for a trade? I hope so.

Antonio Carlos Broheem (WmC), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

The good news is, his Baseball Reference page is available to anyone who wants to sponsor it for a mere $1,585.

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

folks suggest that ichiro's speed is down, which is reason for his decline both offensively and defensively (how many infield hits does he have this year compared to other seasons?), but he still swiped 40 bags this year (to date) with only 7 caught. i wouldn't be surprised to see him make a bit of a comeback next year, since i figure at this point he's even more of a singles hitter than he was before and singles hitters like ichiro and derek jeter can obviously still put up the batting average even after decline years.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I'm not going to belive Ichiro is done until he has a couple seasons like this
I mean really, even Jeets is having a good season and was way more likely to be "washed up"

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

Jeter's OPS + the last 2 seasons: 90, 98
Ichiro's: 112, 85

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

jeter's doing alright, he's basically having a good "singles hitter" year offensively and playing his usual shit D.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:47 (twelve years ago) link

I just looked it up, I'm actually kinda stunned that Jeter's only had one good fielding year and that was 2009

I realize he's never been a good fielder (despite winning Golden Gloves for some reason) but I would at least have thought he would have been about average ten years ago

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 19:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think you missed the first decade of the "Jeter Can't Field" wars.

incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

B-b-but what about when he dove into the stands for that foul ball or flipped the ball to the catcher and got Giambi out??!?!

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I only really had whatever ESPN told me back then

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link

those awards are used as cake icing for superstars having good offensive seasons usually and we have to remember that a gold glove was once awarded to viagra spokesman/anti-steroid activist rafael palmeiro during a season in which he played something like 15-20 games at first base and the remainder at DH.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link

six years pass...

since the other thread is on ile

#Mariners outfielder Ichiro Suzuki is transitioning to the role of Special Assistant to the Chairman, effective today.

Read: https://t.co/HlZyrGdcVz pic.twitter.com/Gn4O2UB1Ee

— MarinersPR (@MarinersPR) May 3, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

I was hoping for half a season of relief work.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 3 May 2018 18:10 (five years ago) link

Now I don’t feel as bad about walking Ichiro last night

— Brett Anderson (@BAnderson3737) May 3, 2018

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 May 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

so he is effectively being retired, i guess? i know he has said he never wants to retire

na (NA), Thursday, 3 May 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/22624561/ichiro-suzuki-return-seattle-mariners-resolve-internal-battle

I didn't know the stuff about the split with his father and the bleeding ulcer in 2009. I hope he can handle being taken off the field.

WilliamC, Thursday, 3 May 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

ten months pass...

just announced that this morning's game will be his last

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:46 (five years ago) link

dayum

xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 March 2019 10:55 (five years ago) link

that's an odd thing to do; but such is his way i guess.

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:15 (five years ago) link

lol he is older than me

rip van wanko, Thursday, 21 March 2019 14:42 (five years ago) link

Ichiro and Kikuchi. 😢 pic.twitter.com/oeE9vATr2b

— Rob Friedman (@PitchingNinja) March 21, 2019

omar little, Thursday, 21 March 2019 16:32 (five years ago) link

My favorite Ichiro stat is that critics were prepared for his batting average to take a real hit when he played for the Mariners (he hit .353 across 9 seasons playing for the Blue Wave)... he finished his MLB rookie season hitting .350.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 21 March 2019 22:12 (five years ago) link

(my #2 favorite):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtImIqR5neU

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 22 March 2019 05:44 (five years ago) link

hahaha

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 22 March 2019 10:38 (five years ago) link


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