And Dance of the Lemmings?
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 December 2008 14:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Haven't heard it
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Thursday, 18 December 2008 14:28 (fifteen years ago) link
get on that, colonel.
also it's
YETI>>>>WOLF CITY>>>TANZ DER>>>>PHALLUS>>>>>VIVE LE TRANCE>>>>CARNIVAL
not to imply that any of them are terrible, though, they're all worth listening to.
― Manclusion (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 December 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link
I think Carnival is certainly better than Viva Le Trance. The first few songs on Viva are really good, but then it falls off...
Anybody want to buy my Hi-Jack LP?
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 December 2008 04:11 (fifteen years ago) link
i was actually going to put them as tied
but you're probably right, now that i think about it.
― Manclusion (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 December 2008 04:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't really argue with the rest of your hierarchy. Yeti is spectacular and Wolf City purrs along like a dream.
― Nate Carson, Friday, 19 December 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link
I find this band perplexing. I like various chunks of their catalog but sometimes I am baffled that the term krautrock is used to encompass acts as disparate as Amon Duul II, Cluster, and Neu!, all of which seem wildly different for the most part. have had Wolf City and Yeti (never heard any of the Amon Duul stuff) and they're okay - not as goofy/fun/random as Faust. Kinda of a piece with Hawkwind but not as conceptually together.
― I, Mr. Sneer Joy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 22:36 (thirteen years ago) link
AD2 had more range than Hawkwind. Tanz der Lemminge, one of my favorite albums of all time, zigzags thru a panoply of psychedelic flavours. Restless Skylight Transistor Child goes from awkward Teutonic boogie to sitar-addled psychedelic folk idyll to distorted overdriven acid rawk to impending doom. The next track, Marilyn Monroe Memorial Church is a stagnating pool of echoey Goth bleakness.
I love Hawkwind and can see the comparison but I think it sells the Duuls short and ignores just how much they could do well.
― kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Amon Duul II is def more all over the place than Hawkwind (who pretty much just cycled between one or two modes for the bulk of their early career). whether or not that's a virtue... eh, I'm undecided. I find the sprawl of Amon Duul II's stuff a bit off-putting.
― I, Mr. Sneer Joy (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
Yeah well that sprawl is the essence of the band. No other band combining Jefferson Airplane, Incredible String Band, Velvet Underground and Night on Bald Mountain
― kingkongvsbasedgodzilla (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 15 February 2011 23:34 (thirteen years ago) link
So I guessing Stefan Zauner, singer of Freiheit, is the only former member of Amon Duul II to have appeared on Top of the Pops? (This could have gone on The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread, er thread).
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link
Amon Düül II--C, because
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqxH2aU9z-Q
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
"Hijack" is rubbish.
Me otm. I listened to this today, along with a lot of other shitty so-called Krautrock, and... well, put it this way, Renate sings two songs on this album and Lothar Meid sings THREE, I mean, wtaf?!?!? He's the worst singer in a band that contains Chris Karrer and John Weinzierl, need I say more? And what's with that song where he just lifts entire lines of lyrics, unchanged, from Mott the Hoople?
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link
HISI (had it, sold it) - long gone from my collection, never to be heard again
― zoomer death circus (sleeve), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
Chris Karrer sings three songs too! But then Renate did say the guys in the band were a bunch of sexist hippie assholes.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
Touring next year… could be exciting or maybe not?
― mmmm, Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link
I hear they're pretty good! I mean it's an oldies act, but most of the original lineup iirc
― sleeve, Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:38 (two years ago) link
Okay thanks! Going to buy the tickets. Will give me a nice run up to spend the time with their music.
― mmmm, Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
please report back! very cool.
― sleeve, Saturday, 4 September 2021 20:46 (two years ago) link
And what's with that song where he just lifts entire lines of lyrics, unchanged, from Mott the Hoople?
It's worse than that, there's actually TWO songs on this album ("Hijack") that lift entire lines of lyrics, unchanged, from the same Mott the Hoople song!
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 07:10 (one week ago) link
Maybe the clue is in the album title; a détournement.
― ringworm, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 09:50 (one week ago) link
For the record, the Mott song is "Hymn for the Dudes" which is quoted in both "I Can't Wait" and "You're Not Alone"; the former also contains a line lifted from Leonard Cohen's "Stranger Song", which maybe does suggest this is a conscious repurposing.
I only heard this album this year but I found it a lot easier to digest than Vive La Trance; the band just seems a lot more confident about their efforts even as they scatter their energies. They're not "trying too hard" but the creative decisions seem less contrived; I was touched to hear Chris Karrer contribute a long sax solo to "You're Not Alone", or to hear elephants trumpeting over a "Shaft" funk groove. For what it's worth, this is probably the best of their "non-classic" records (though I haven't heard Made in Germany because only the single-disc version is streaming).
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 17:59 (one week ago) link
I quite enjoy Made In Germany
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:02 (one week ago) link
"Hijack" is terrible.
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:07 (one week ago) link
What you call a "conscious repurposing", I call lazily stealing some lines to fill out a lyric - and it's not like it's they're referencing some lines from a classic song, it's from a contemporary song!
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:15 (one week ago) link
idk i like "hijack"
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 18:29 (one week ago) link
What you call a "conscious repurposing", I call lazily stealing some lines to fill out a lyric
It just makes it more interesting for me, more than if Lothar Meid had scrambled his brains to come up with two or three more lines of English lyric.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:09 (one week ago) link
made in germany is interesting because it's one of those records where a completely different guy takes over and then vanishes, in this case a guy named nando tischer
i guess it's kind of the end of "classic era" adii tho... lothar, falk-u, and renate's last '70s outing with them, right?
― Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 19:11 (one week ago) link
Lothar's not on it I think? It's the bass player from "Vive La Trance", Robby Heibl, but Danny Fichelscher is on at least one track!
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:28 (one week ago) link
The comings and goings in this band make Hawkwind seem steady and sedate.
― My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 20:29 (one week ago) link
can't believe they stole some lyrics on uh Hijack
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 08:06 (thirteen hours ago) link