The Rolling "Top of the Pops" BBC4 Revival thread.

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But you have to remember that 99% of the British population despised/dismissed/detested punk rock and only a tiny handful of punk singles charted in 1977.

That said, my anticipation for Eddie & The Hot Rods grows with every passing week...

mike t-diva, Friday, 1 July 2011 11:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

But you have to remember that 99% of the British population despised/dismissed/detested punk rock and only a tiny handful of punk singles charted in 1977

I know but its effect in the music business was more profound, it was like they realised that Mr. Big being the Most Exciting New Act of the year was, all things considered, not really good enough. Uh, but maybe I'm rewriting history here because wiki tells me Mr. Big's big hit was 1977!

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2011 11:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ah, but do you remember "Christmas with Dicken"? Their big hit "Romeo" was somewhat at the close of play, but still...

also:

That said, my anticipation for Eddie & The Hot Rods grows with every passing week...

― mike t-diva, Friday, 1 July 2011 11:20 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

We are of a mind, yes.

Mark G, Friday, 1 July 2011 13:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Demis Roussos looking like Spock's psychic half-brother from that Star Trek movie.

You get nothing for a pair, not in this game (snoball), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

This week is pretty bad so far, two videos and Ruby Flipper pissing about (I'm not even going to call it dancing) to an instrumental.

You get nothing for a pair, not in this game (snoball), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

That New Seekers track is apalling, presumably it was only bought by teenage lads who wanted to check Eve Graham out on totp.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

Art Garfunkel clearly doesn't give a shit here.

You get nothing for a pair, not in this game (snoball), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I remember hating 'Diddy' David Hamilton a lot, but he's not that bad a presenter compared to the dross of Edmondsm the enforced wackiness of DLT, and the crepeiness of Sir Jimmy.

You get nothing for a pair, not in this game (snoball), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mostly I watch this for the grim fascination of the awful music, awful fashion, ugly people and the bloke in Ruby Flipper dancing around dressed as a leopard, but I have to say the Roxy Music one tickled my fancy.

There is power in an onion (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

Ha Ha...wondered when the first reference to the Summer of '76 would occur...David Hamilton looking appropriately sweaty in his White whistle...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Friday, 15 July 2011 22:21 (seven years ago) Permalink

David Hamilton was very dull. His radio show used to play 'versions' from TOTP sessions to get round needletime restrictions, and was the housewives favourite. At least Edmonds was into his music..

Mark G, Saturday, 16 July 2011 00:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hamilton's R1 afternoon show also went out simultaneously on R2, as I recall - so it was MOR to the max.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 16 July 2011 09:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

RUBBISH EPISODE THIS WEEK.

PJ Miller, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:49 (seven years ago) Permalink

longer version was 10 minutes rubbisher.

actually, i enjoyed it again.

koogs, Sunday, 17 July 2011 19:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yes, I always watch the LONG VERSION.

I enjoyed what in 1976 I might have happily called Ruby Flidder, but obviously would not do that nowadays.

PJ Miller, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:00 (seven years ago) Permalink

long version had extra Cherry Flipper doing a dance, Alex Harvey again and Johnny ("not Cash") Nash.

koogs, Sunday, 17 July 2011 20:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

It was rubbish this week.

Also, what's with the iplayer not being updated with the longer version anymore?

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 08:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

i don't think it ever has been. certainly all the ones i have (think i'm missing the first) are the short version.

koogs, Monday, 18 July 2011 08:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

They did get updated previously.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 08:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

the 5 iplayer downloads i have here are all the short version. am pretty certain all the others are too.

koogs, Monday, 18 July 2011 08:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

and i usually grab them the monday or tuesday after they air, which should be enough time for them to throw the longer versions up (otherwise they'd only be up for a day before being replaced)

koogs, Monday, 18 July 2011 08:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

But you have to remember that 99% of the British population despised/dismissed/detested punk rock and only a tiny handful of punk singles charted in 1977.

chapter and verse stats pls.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Big Hits: TOTP 1964-1975 on BBC2 on Saturday was much better. Lots of things everyone has seen before but it worked well enough. Driscoll/Auger still looks like 2028, not 1968.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:17 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've had "Where do you go to my lovely?" stuck in my head since watching that.

Neil S, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

could be worse, my brain randomly flings OOH-AR OOH-AR at me. was surprised to find out that Wurzels song is based on a Melanie song, though.

zappi, Monday, 18 July 2011 09:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

all the wurzels hits were based on other songs, that was the point (i thought), parodies that piggy backed other tunes.

koogs, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

Except for "Drink Up Thy Zider" ..

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Honest, guv: I have seen a long iplayer version (at least two), and only a couple of times recently caught the actual late-transmission of the 40 min version.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:15 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's a bit of a mystery. and, of course, i'd prefer the longer versions myself.

i had forgotten drink up thy zider. but #45 in 1966 who would blame me?

koogs, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

That was with Adge Cutler, the Dylan of Zummerzet, though. They were more credible in them days.

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

And then poor Cutler was killed in a car crash and the Wurzels resolved to go on but alas "Combine Harvester" was no "Blue Monday."

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

Johnny Nash's "Wonderful World" on the extended show was pretty good, we thought.

xpost: punk singles which charted (meaning Top 40) in 77: mostly from memory, we had 3 each from the Pistols, Stranglers and Jam, 2 from the Clash, plus Sheena Is A Punk Rocker, Gary Gilmore's Eyes, Your Generation (Gen X), This Perfect Day (The Saints)... OK, so 15 is perhaps not strictly speaking a "tiny handful", but it's still a tiny fraction! Widening the net, there was also Watching The Detectives, Do Anything You Wanna Do, Marquee Moon and Prove It... can't recall any more?

mike t-diva, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

And of that list, how many did not feature on TOTP?

The two Clash ones (They banned themselves from the programme because they did a foreign TV show similar in concept and found they were crap at miming, no other reason actually), I dont think "Sheenah" was, apart from that: all those..

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Oh, and "God save the queen" and "Anarchy" obv.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

God Save The Queen, obv. And was Holidays In The Sun aired? I have a feeling it wasn't. Also no memory of Television on TOTP...?

mike t-diva, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

You are right.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

some boomtown rats and x ray specs singles amongst that lot. not sure what made it to totp. (the couple of buzzcocks singles probably didn't)

koogs, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

X-Ray Spex and Buzzcocks didn't chart until 1978. But, yeah, Boomtown Rats...

mike t-diva, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

'2-4-6-8 Motorway' maybe?

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 11:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, a few appearances with that one, they liked Tom.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

And "Little Girl" by The Banned! That was on TOTP as well...

mike t-diva, Monday, 18 July 2011 11:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was more interested in the “99% of the British population” stat.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 13:58 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, that's how it felt to me! (Subjectively rather than scientifically, of course.) And I did say "dismissed", as well as "despised" and "detested".

Or to put it another way: 1% of the general population feeling positively about punk in 1977 feels about right. (And of course by 1979, the same people who had scorned the Pistols and the Clash two years earlier were queuing up to tape my albums, but by then the cultural assimilation process was well underway...)

mike t-diva, Monday, 18 July 2011 14:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

I didn't meet all the general population in 1976-7 so can't say whether your estimation is accurate. How high did "indifferent to" or "didn't know it existed" score?

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

In my year at school, for instance, the ratio was roughly 80% not bothered to 20% loved, but I don't know how representative that would be for the country as a whole.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

Well, by 1977 the ratio was 50/50, but that would discount the ones not bothered about music in general.

The previous year would have been 10% punk, 90% Lynyrd Skynyrd.

(oh what fun there was at the sixth form the week before "Street Survivors" was issued)

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 15:18 (seven years ago) Permalink

Rush were inexplicably big at my school

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

And mine. Hardly anyone else got a turn on the Common Room record player.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

I was fortunate in getting a couple of singles before official issue, "Oh Bondage" being one.

That one, everyone hated, then sort-of liked, then went out and bought.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2011 16:10 (seven years ago) Permalink


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