Double predestination versus guaranteed hell for unbaptized infants

I thought unbaptized infants no longer go to hell?

interesting to think of these ideas as flowing "up" from political/ideological battles on the ground rather than being dreamed up whole and handed down.

catholicism: you need the worldly Church = your actions in life determine your salvation = if you don't DO anything (w/ our blessing and say so), you are damned = sorry kids

protestantism: you don't need any horrible Church, only faith = nobody should have any power over anything, except God = wow he must know everything and determine everything, including the future = sorry u reprobates, it's out of our hands (lucky for us elect, huh)

xp yeah i think the church lightened up on that. no more purgatory either! but the theology is murky to me tbh

I just assume all those lil infants will go to heaven cause they are innocent and incapable of sin. Not that I beliEve that shit haha

o fuck what did I just do forgive me

oh fuck quit that

again forgive me

Apparently lots of Catholics think that there's not a guarantee of hell for unbaptized infants anymore, but when I tried to suss this out by working through the Catechism a few years back, it seemed like there was still the guarantee, but "nice" priests would try to tell people otherwise. I thought the Catechism was official but I think this is one of the topics that the church wishes would just kinda fade away and people would stop asking about.

looooooooooooooooooool rev

the very very reverend

goole what you're saying about the political stuff is interesting. It's hard to establish causation here, because at some level both doctrines are a matter of trying to understand what Paul meant in Romans, and those battles have been going on since like the 3rd century. So it's like Paul + politics of the time too, not just politics.