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Home Is In Your Head is the 2nd one on 4AD I think.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Mouth By Mouth is the 3rd.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I said!

Argh, I think I'm starting to get a backache - because I'm so used to being able to put my feet up on my guitar case and now I can't. Must find something else - the rubbish bin isn't comfortable.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:36 (seventeen years ago) link

No office boys to do that job?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Mouth By Mouth was my first HNIA and has a special place in my heart. Beyond that I can't really explain in useful terms which one it is, but it's got that short "channel of your peace" song on and is possibly the most beautifully creepy throughout (others will disagree, I'm sure). I am very impressed whichever album she sang on, but, wow, I listened to almost nothing but that one for a good long time.

What is Hawkwind Chord? Something like a six-stringed open E5?

I'd have said major 7ths were the most postrock of all chords. I get sad because I'd like to understand more about chords but whenever it comes to attempting to make music I just get stuck switching between I and vi forever. Then again some of my favourite records don't do much more than that so maybe it should be enough for me after all.

But most importantly Quack Quack are ACE and I would be dead proud to play even half a note with them. I'd love to see them live again, but in the meantime I will console myself with singing very badly along to the synth lines on their mini-album thing.

I disappear now before anyone notices I was here, safe in the knowledge that these threads move so fast I might never see this part of it again.

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I have no idea who you are but hello and welcome!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:55 (seventeen years ago) link

For Norman

http://www.leninimports.com/louise_brooks_gallery_4.jpg vs http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/houseofeliott/images/intro.jpg

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/houseofeliott/images/index1.jpg

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.geocities.com/louiselombard/1louise2b.jpg

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

What is Hawkwind Chord? Something like a six-stringed open E5?

It is indeed!

― Pashmina, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Is 'a passing spacecadet' that Rebecca person? I'm sure her ILx email was 'spacecadetsomethingorother'...

― emil.y, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello. I was an occasional ILXor a long time ago so I don't expect anyone to have any idea who I am, or at least I sort of hope not; it's quite a relief to imagine nobody does.

Meanwhile I'm looking at this this Hawkwind guitar basics lesson and guessing the talk above is about shape 1 with an open lowest string for the E version? Maybe not at all but I feel pretty orgone-accumulatingly space-rocking now!

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

2 people guessed who you are already!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Aw, that's awesome - Hawkwind guitar lessons! yeah!

If you are Rebecca (from Oxford parts, IIRC?) then I remember you! Unless you are some new person with a similar handle. In which case, welcome.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

That's what I call an A-barre. (Bar? Or am I getting it mixed up with ballet?) It's like an A chord moved up the neck. An E-barre is lower.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, hawkwind guitar lessons!

The chord I'm thinking of goes (from low string upwards) open string (low E)/E (octave up from open string - fretted)/B fretted/Efretted/open string/open string. If you slide the fretted strings up and down, BRAINSTORM.

― Pashmina, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:10 (seventeen years ago) link

(Multiple xposts which it didn't tell me about) Oh. emil.y and Kate are correct, that is me indeed. And I knew MarkH would get me after Oxford babble on the placename thread. Uh-oh. (looks around nervously) Hi!

(Is emil.y emil.y ch3m3x? It's good to see some familiar ILX-faces around.)

(you can also recognise my posts from too many brackets and too many hyphen-dash-things)

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha, Pash, I call those chords "woman chords" because they are easier for us girls with our little tiny hands to play unbarred.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi, Rebecca - yes, that's me. Also, I forgot to mention that you are quite correct that Quack Quack are ACE. This was the first time I'd seen them in a while (when they started up I saw them about 5 or 6 times in quick succession), and they totally reminded me of why I love them. The whole gig was an amazing line-up: Dragon Or Emperor, Quack Quack, Fulborne Teversham and Pit er Pat. Woooo.

― emil.y, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I have tiny hands. Maybe I could've learned to play guitar after all.
Then i could join in the geek talk with the rest of you all ;)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

You could have done like Kevin Coyne and learned to play it resting on your lap

― Tom D., Friday, 30 March 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.rikwalton.com/music/rock/kevincoyne/p/keco003.jpg

― Tom D., Friday, 30 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

...The E5 power chord at 7th fret + 3 open strings is the chord I was thinking of before I looked at the Hawkwind Guitar Lesson but sliding it down and back up the neck has resulted in me sounding like the GUN cover of Cameo's "Word Up", which I believe is not generally considered conducive to orgone energy. More work needed.

My short stubby hands are not good at A-shaped barres so a) I am glad of open strings or unplayed high E string and b) I am trying to convince myself that the inch-and-a-bit shorter scale length of a Jaguar would be all I need to transform myself into guitar genius. OK, I know, but they are so pretty. Sigh...

And hi emil.y. I don't know two of those bands but I will be sure to look them up with a recommendation and lineup like that. Maybe the Nottingham-diskant-Audioscope connection will bring them to us some autumn (well, I'm sort of not even in Oxfordshire any more, but I'll probably head back there soon at this rate).

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Playing with your thumb

― Tom D., Friday, 30 March 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Rebecca (or Kerr, if you have tiny hands) maybe you should try a Daisy Rock guitar - the whole point of them is that they are built for smaller hands and are supposedly easier to play.

(I am lucky in that I have rather long fingers for a female, and also did loads of hard core piano training when I was very little, which stretched out my fingers so I have an octave reach.)

I dunno, I think Word Up could be condusive to orgone accumulation, but only in the original, and certainly not in the Scary Spice cover.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

The original is a classic. Actually Cameo's early albums were very pfunk influenced!

To those who got 13th Floor Cookies yesterday... what do you think of the alternate mixes on both albums?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

...Oh, those bands aren't from Nottingham - sorry for jumping to that conclusion - but the descriptions I've found so far are intriguing.

I put a bid on a purple sparkly Daisy Rock on ebay once or twice but it was not to be. I've never seen one in a shop where I could have a chance to try it, but then the staff never acknowledge my existence and after ten minutes of hanging round wondering whether to ask I get too intimidated by them and all the teenage boys tapping their way through intricate metal solos and leave anyway. And I'd love a shorter-scale bass because my current cheap bass is just too huge and high-actioned and telegraph-cable-like, but the only ones I see are that Epiphone SG shape, which I don't like much.

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't listened to the alternate mixes much. I must admit, I just jumped straight to the albums because I love them so much. I often get frustrated by alternate mixes of songs I know really well, because they are not, well, the way I *expect* them to be!

Argh, I hear you about guitar shop staff. But the last time I went guitar shopping, I took Ed and everyone jumped on him offering him service, and he just pointed them to me, ha ha. Actually, that was one of the nicest things about R&V Guitars on Denmark Street, is they're not sexist at all in there - the bloke noticed it was me perving over the Cosmichorus. I often get asked if I need help in there, but unfortunately I can't afford anything in there.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I love the alternate mixes on Marquee Moon.

I just got spam for viagra from Ned Braggett

bizarre.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I have to repost this weirdness

http://www.kropserkel.com/Images/horsehead%20(6).jpg

and this cuteness

http://www.dailykitten.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/1174019305cats-026.jpg

― Ed, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

link to long picture

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I had a stuffed horsehead when I was a child! It's not that weird!

(OK, my mum was obsessed with the Godfather for a while.)

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

If you get small pics when you click that link, just click the pic to magnify it. For some reason the pic comes out small automatically

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Have a good weekend everyone.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

You, too, Kerr. (I'll be going home to pizza and imagining how good the Hawkwind doc is as soon as I finish transferring some files.)

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:19 (seventeen years ago) link

Am home today. The weekend has already started. Yay me!

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Happy weekend, watercoolerers.

I feel I should add that the staff of PMT Oxford have usually been helpful and the guy who runs the computer+synth room is always enthusiastic and friendly. Which is also a bit intimidating in its own way, because it seems a shame to go from feeling like maybe I've managed to fool someone into thinking I know what I'm doing with a proper nerdy conversation about LFOs and pulse-width modulation and then blow it by showing him I really can't play.

On the other hand, I had a very odd experience in a record shop (sorry, long story and one I may have told before). Every few days I'd go into their dance music basement, spend a while looking and almost always buy something. I got chatting to the guy occasionally, because I'd buy crap nobody else wanted from the bargain bin and the "what the hell?" / "weirdassed drill/breakcore" sections.

We got talking about production too because the weird stuff he didn't know where to file or how to price he'd often show to me, and he'd got some sample CDs in or some 8-bit chiptune thing I said I might buy just for sampling. Anyway, I was in there a LOT, spending a lot of money, and I never once took anyone else there or even spoke to any other customers.

After a few years he said, "Shame your friend isn't with you today, I've got some stuff he might like."
"Er?"
"Oh, you know, that guy you're always in here with, he listens to all the weird stuff, and he makes his own music so he buys those CDs with beats on."

I have NO idea how to explain that exchange except that it was just so MALE that anyone would regularly paw their IDM and weird cheap stuff and talk about making music that he completely IMAGINED someone else coming in every week while I stood behind this imaginary customer staring uncomprehendingly at the records and then leaving again, just so as not to think a woman might have any musical knowledge. But I'm hoping there's a better explanation.

― a passing spacecadet, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like a typical dance music shop. 13th Note in Glasgow went all elitist and snobby when it became dance stuff only.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link

That's pretty WTF. I don't know what to say really.

― Pashmina, Friday, 30 March 2007 17:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Norman OTM. Utterly bizarre.
Despite reading Muzik and Mixmag all the time I hated going into dance shops TBH. Always seemed really unfriendly and elitist. I tended only to go in when I was with one of my mates if he was after stuff.
I usually just bought my cd's elsewhere. I used to go into 13th Precinct (not note, lord knows why i said that haha) out of habit as it used to be a good indie shop. But eventually it got moved downstairs and then dropped completely and I just didn't like the shop anymore.

I haven't been in 13th Precinct for years. Wonder what it's like now.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Hi everyone!

just got new net...more watercooler from here on out.

― H-ari A-shurst, Friday, 30 March 2007 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Snazzy new look!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 30 March 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

It's hard to find threads thesedays.

Search doesn't show them, there is no "show all" anymore, and if it wasn't for my own 'history', I'd lose threads!

― Mark G, Monday, 2 April 2007 09:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I've forgotten what the question was

― Ste, Monday, 2 April 2007 10:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Hello! I had the weirdest dream (or rather nightmare EVAH). A small baby was pooping orally. His (or her, can't remember gender) blew up so big that it turned see-through.

― nathalie, Monday, 2 April 2007 11:32 (seventeen years ago) link

That sounds horrifying

― H-ari A-shurst, Monday, 2 April 2007 11:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, this was due to the fact that Ophelia had pooped so much it was sticking to her legs (at 4 am). We had to wash her up and take her into our bed. This was the worst but previous nights have been the same. heheh

― nathalie, Monday, 2 April 2007 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't been in 13th Precinct for years. Wonder what it's like now.

I fondly remember buying "So Far" by Faust and "Der Elektrolurch" by Guru Guru before it went dance

― Tom D., Monday, 2 April 2007 12:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Morning!

Erm ... I mean, Afternoon!

― Forest Pines, Monday, 2 April 2007 12:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Afternoon!

It's time for a New Thread

really hope that coding works. I'd only just got used to link! Anyway, if that doesn't turn out, it's here:

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=53035

― Masonic Boom, Monday, 2 April 2007 12:20 (seventeen years ago) link

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