Kieslowski - Three Colors Trilogy - Poll

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That's why I prefer Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

A review at that time called Blue "an exquisite tone poem." Then added: "But movies aren't poems."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:50 (nine years ago) link

no movies are pineapples made of sound and images

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:53 (nine years ago) link

intellectually it's easy to reason out why red is the better picture but blue works on my emotions like music and that's a magical thing so it gets the banana

(last minute campaigning)

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:56 (nine years ago) link

my only bit of last-minute campaigning for white would be to remind people of the line "my god... home at last" followed immediately by the awesome theme song

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:59 (nine years ago) link

Yes, that was a beautiful scene, including the leadup to it: Karol fighting, "Look out! He has scissors!" The gulls swarming above the field.

Also great: Karol and Mikolaj sliding across the frozen pond, Mikolaj screaming wordlessly.

Think White could pull an upset here.

boxall, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:11 (nine years ago) link

yeah that's not gonna happen

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:12 (nine years ago) link

it will be red blue white

but everybody feel free to prove me wrong

snowball's epc in hell (Edward III), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:13 (nine years ago) link

I'm going to count 2nd as an upset, if it happens. Still a slim chance I know.

boxall, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 17:13 (nine years ago) link

white will not pull an upset here, but i really do love it, so much more earthy, sardonic and spirited than the other two

And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:09 (nine years ago) link

somehow when i opened this thread i knew 'veronique' was gonna come up and that alfred was gonna deem it dull!

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:25 (nine years ago) link

voted blue, which i remember chiefly for juliette binoche's incredible performance and the masterful way that kieslowski stages the opening car crash - lyrical and terrifying cinema.

veronique is my favourite, i;m total sucker for 'supernatural' art movies

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:37 (nine years ago) link

I didn't find the "metaphysics" of Veronique compelling, and without that armature the two stories weren't either. He paced the protagonist's musing and noodling more interesting in Blue and Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:40 (nine years ago) link

Moreover, maybe it's her age but Irene Jacob's guilelessness was less sticky in Red.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:41 (nine years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 23:01 (nine years ago) link

I didn't find the "metaphysics" of Veronique compelling, and without that armature the two stories weren't either. He paced the protagonist's musing and noodling more interesting in Blue and Red.

it's the storytelling that's so beautiful in veronique, i think; kieslowski's so confident, and thinks highly enough of his audience to tell the stories v sparely + elliptically, leaving us to fill in the jumps and blanks. seeing her musing + noodling, detached and inert, pretty much separated from the urgency of the guys she hangs out with and the transience of everything else going on, becomes this compelling, involving focus, to me. it's one of my favourites, on account of just how well it's accessorised & presented & what it elicits in me as a character study.

devoted to boats (schlump), Thursday, 30 June 2011 09:21 (nine years ago) link

nah even that's better in white -- his reassured smirk at knowing that there are people worse off than him.

I may be mis-remembering, but I thought Karol was asleep, no?

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 1 July 2011 03:17 (nine years ago) link

wiki sez:

A recurring image related to the spirit of the film is that of elderly people recycling bottles; in Three Colors: White, an old man in Paris is trying to recycle a bottle but cannot reach the container and Karol looks at him with a sinister grin on his face (in the spirit of equality). In Three Colors: Blue, an old woman in Paris is recycling bottles and Julie does not notice her (in the spirit of freedom); in Three Colors: Red an old woman cannot reach the hole of the container and Valentine helps her (in the spirit of solidarity).

so it may be blue you're thinking of; i think binoche's eyes are closed.

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Friday, 1 July 2011 06:00 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Saw Blue for the first time ever tonight (another one I taped years ago, but held out for a chance to see all three in a theatre). I guess I was in just the right mood; liked it a lot. Looking forward to White tomorrow and Red on Sunday.

clemenza, Saturday, 17 September 2011 01:55 (nine years ago) link

i think blue is the weakest, white is v underrated

buzza, Saturday, 17 September 2011 02:36 (nine years ago) link

I'm gonna buy all three of these this week, I'm thinking...

SEXPRESSO 2222: the semi-offical BRAZILIAN REVIRGINIZING club (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 17 September 2011 03:25 (nine years ago) link

The Criterion box is due in November...

Status Update...in my Seether? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 17 September 2011 03:28 (nine years ago) link

White ambled along and held my interest, but I didn't like it nearly as much as Blue. I found the ending puzzling, unless I'm trying to read too much into it. Glad I'll get to finish with the one that won this poll.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 September 2011 01:28 (nine years ago) link

Mild spoiler, but the ending of White is explained a bit at the end of Red.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 September 2011 01:32 (nine years ago) link

Look forward to it. I missed Delpy's character in Blue--where did she appear?

clemenza, Sunday, 18 September 2011 01:35 (nine years ago) link

i don't think you see her, but you hear karol's voice (poor Polish Guy Who Played Karol, doomed forever to be called "karol" by westerners) when binoche sticks her head into the wrong courtroom.

the-dream in the witch house (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 18 September 2011 01:37 (nine years ago) link

IIRC, you don't really see her, as she isn't in Binoche's pov when she walks into the courtroom. She may just be out of focus.

X-post

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 September 2011 01:39 (nine years ago) link

That's funny--so I was right when I thought I saw Binoche stick her head in the courtroom in White.

clemenza, Sunday, 18 September 2011 01:41 (nine years ago) link

I almost walked out of Red tonight, knowing I could watch my old tape at home; for the first half-hour, there was some technical issue where every couple of minutes the image would scramble for a few seconds. The rest of the way it only happened a couple of times.

I liked Blue the best, then Red, then White. I knew very little going in, so the ending was a complete surprise. You could almost run a separate poll for Binoche/Delpy/Jacob. That would be a tougher call for me.

clemenza, Monday, 19 September 2011 01:47 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Is the Criterion box only going to be released on Blu-Ray?

ge0rge (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 15:47 (nine years ago) link

...still looking forward to the Cyan, Magenta and Yellow film cycle trilogy.

Aimless, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 15:56 (nine years ago) link

Criterion box will be on both standard & blu. Aside from the odd special feature, they have yet to do a "blu only" title.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:01 (nine years ago) link

Looking for it on Amazon and coming up only with bluray, but maybe I should check their website...?

ge0rge (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:06 (nine years ago) link

Cyan, Magenta and Yellow

Colors asscoiated with what, policially?

Muammar for the road (Michael White), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:09 (nine years ago) link

Found it on Amazon. It was probably just a glitch.

The Man With The Flavored Toothpick (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:18 (nine years ago) link

xp
Don't forget the tragically unfinished Black.

bentelec, Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Thanks loads Grisso. Probably just had problems bcz I'm on my phone.

ge0rge (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 25 October 2011 16:35 (nine years ago) link

After I saw Blue last month, I was thinking about how its ending would seem to be the basis for similar scenes in Donnie Darko ("Mad World") and Magnolia ("Wise Up")--the camera gliding over various characters in different places as pretty music plays in the background. I like all three scenes a lot. Is there anything that predates Blue in that vein, or is it the blueprint?

clemenza, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 00:47 (nine years ago) link

Around the same time, Altman did it with "To Hell with Love" in Short Cuts.

your way better (Eazy), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 00:52 (nine years ago) link

how totally weird this thread exists and i see it - i watched blue for the 2nd time yesterday, pretty much depriving myself the next day (today) of a couple hours sleep so i could watch it continuously. i loved the movie the first time and really came to appreciate it this viewing. i really thinks its mostly for reasons of subject matter, whereas i find white/red to be interesting stories; there was just something so utterly ridiculous yet so, so, so believably about juliette binoche's performance as a woman who grieves in all the wrong ways. i'm honestly obsessive enough that i've rewound to specific points of the movie in which she cuts a person off squarely with a solid, curt "No". Jesus.

kelpolaris, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 03:47 (nine years ago) link

After I saw Blue last month, I was thinking about how its ending would seem to be the basis for similar scenes in Donnie Darko ("Mad World")

one of the things I liked about donnie darko was the clear nod to blue

according to imdb blue and short cuts screened at the venice film festival in '93, though blue was shown earlier in jan at the warsaw film festival

the boy with the gorn at his side (Edward III), Wednesday, 26 October 2011 15:04 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

had no memory of red bowling-ball shot

(or much else)

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 August 2012 18:41 (eight years ago) link

I like all three scenes a lot. Is there anything that predates Blue in that vein, or is it the blueprint?

My question, a few posts above. I found something earlier that is very similar; there's a sequence in Welcome to L.A. where you go from character to character while one of Richard Baskin's (horrible) songs plays. Each character's turn ends with him or her staring directly at the camera. I doubt very much that Kieslowski would have been influenced by Welcome to L.A., but I can definitely imagine P.T. Anderson having seen it.

clemenza, Monday, 27 August 2012 18:47 (eight years ago) link

three months pass...

do you have to watch these in order?

乒乓, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:25 (eight years ago) link

im currently reading the wikipedia plot synopsis for three colours blue and i cant remember if i have seen it

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:30 (eight years ago) link

You don't need to see them in order.

Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:32 (eight years ago) link

kieslowski seems so early 90s

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:35 (eight years ago) link

he even died in 1996 just to enhance the feeling

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Saturday, 8 December 2012 17:36 (eight years ago) link

ha ha
he is the best though
even just thinking about kieslowski films is nice
watch them in order if you can, 乒乓, there are some echoes between that would make sense in any order but which have some kinda sequential pay-off imo

~bacon trailblazer~ (schlump), Saturday, 8 December 2012 22:55 (eight years ago) link

blue and white are probably interchangeable but red's best last

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:01 (eight years ago) link


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