have listened to this on a bunch of different media and stereo setups now. more than most albums, it sounds p radically different depending on how you're listening to it.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
SP is kinda similar to odd future in a sense tho - both seem like genuinely fresh versions of stuff happening in indie rap in the late 90s
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, very much, and in SP's case, i think you can hear some early 90s conscious fallout, slam rapping, not a bad thing
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:38 (twelve years ago) link
completely forgot about the Easy Street show, just bought a ticket for Friday night
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
i have come to really hate slam rapping/poetry in the last 10 years so im pretending i dont hear it on this album
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
one thing it really makes me think is that j beez came along about 18 years too soon wit the remedy
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
j beez were basically predicting the dark/experimental underground rappers from NY a few years too early
i still havent heard the unreleased version of that album
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link
it's not the greatest thing in the world, every version i've ever heard has sounded way too muffled, like it was never mixed properly, even (especially) the "crazy wisdom masters" EP tracks
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoBlsDzc3Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s32wzXywWUc
― his name was rony. rony from my cage. (stevie), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ NUTS in an AWESOME way
forget seattle, most important moment in underground rap since i dont know when?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
i think the vinyl comes in some sort of felt sleeve!
so does the CD version, fwiw
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 30 June 2011 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
LP sleeve feels soft and sort of velvety/felty, but i think it's just nice paper?
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 06:15 (twelve years ago) link
This is one of the best albums I've heard all year and I rarely listen to hip hop. It has an authentic cross-genre appeal. I guess that in the end being released through Sub Pop was undoubtedly a sign that it would be picked up by white indie kids such as myself.
― ◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:11 (twelve years ago) link
raises eyebrow at inauthentic cross-genre appeal
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
I phrased it wrong didn't I? I meant that it's an album that has the potential to attract listeners that usually listen to other genres and it doesn't even seems like it's trying. Some artists and albums try too hard.
― ◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
kind funny how many factory sounds from the sp404 end up on the shabazz records (lots of drum sounds, the "break!" sample etc).
the new lp is growing on me, though at first i kept turning it off and going back to the eps. the first two + last two songs would have made a killer ep.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
his rapping is really what holds the album together imho - the beats/music are great but they are very disjointed and fractured, the vocals are what keep it tied together
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
totally, i don't think it would work at all as instrumentals
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
stevie/contenderizer OTM upthread about this stuff being like a sequel to J. Beez Wit Tha Remedy-era Jungle Brothers, seems like the most obvious reference point to me.
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
hoping this grows on me cause after 1st listen it sounds like a dude fucking around with new gear/programs
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
that rawness is kind of what i like about it, especially on the eps (which don't even sound properly mastered to me). i never have that sense of "how the fuck did he make that beat?", but he still has a sound and knows what he's going for & what works for his vocals.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
o_O
http://dreamhamptonfilmvideo.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-am-ali-2002_13.html?utm_source=BP_recent
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 July 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
ok, this was the amazing, previously unknown first song they performed when i saw them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJdiUNDoYZw&feature=player_embedded#at=32
ANOTHER REGAL GUN BEAT TO THUG TO
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
the persona non gratis in this palace been on sacred dirtpeacock swatches of color off my leathers burstrosé wristwatches whisper time in pleasure verse
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
was just listening to the album...
and shit yeah, i remember that! esp the "pilgrim marketing plan" intro line and "bop hard." where'd it come from? (and wonder why it got cut)
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 11 July 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently, it's an itunes bonus track.
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.daytrotter.com/dt/shabazz-palaces-concert/20054896-3738457.html
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
if someone gets a direct link plz post. making you sign up to download a recording you don't own the rights to is bullshit.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mediafire.com/?5nzyyg4hv37225x
here's shabazz live on KEXP in May, no signup required. the same exact songs + more.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
ok so i really listened to "of light" a lot and the other EP and dug the hell out of it, but never really read anything abt shabazz palaces....is the dude from digable planets???????
― van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
yep Butterfly/Ishmael Butler
― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
surprised you couldn't tell from just his voice!
yeah i guess now i hear it, but you know, this seemed to be bubbling up around the lil' b/oddfuture hype and i guess i just sort of assumed they were a bunch of weird kids or something....digable planets in 2010 just wasn't something that would ever come to mind i guess
anyway v cool to see a dude be able to reinvent himself and make a comeback
― van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah pretty unusual (Doom, Kool Keith being the other exceptions)
― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
"you corny, nigga"
for some reason this seems like the funniest hook I've heard all year
― i hate it when rats eat my bushels (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link
probably cuz of deej tbh
yeah he manages to make basic hooks sound amazing. eg 'im free, bitch you know im free' (at least i think he says bitch you know im free, well in my head thats how i rap it, if he doesnt say that he should)
and im glad hes got such an amazing 2nd wind - def rare in hip hop, fwiw i think SP is way better than DPs
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 15 July 2011 08:56 (twelve years ago) link
GF opines that the black velvet case is cool but to her it sounded like andre 3000 but "less musical"
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 16 July 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
i want to start a kosmische hip hop thread
this album reminded me of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN6nQP1b-Y8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90v2R2EOqeM&feature=related
― moonship journey to baja, Saturday, 16 July 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
somehow this sounded better listening at work on my ipod then in my basement with PA and sub blasting, go figga. maybe it was just too intense to digest a 1st listen on a bangin system.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 16 July 2011 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=9373
this review is one of the worst i have read
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:34 (twelve years ago) link
i saw the vinyl of this finally - it didnt appear to be a felt sleeve :|
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 18 July 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
Ew, that review
the voice dripping insouciantly out of his nose.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:21 (twelve years ago) link
still trying to work out what i think of this. the beats are really inventive, i enjoy it...i totally admire this on a head level but haven't got beyond that yet.
comment upthread "if the bug was american" rings true, and i'm also reminded of saul williams, but williams and the bug both had those moments of RAAARGHHH ferocity that really sucked you in, whereas this album kind of retreats further into itself as it goes on. almost like he's just talking to himself.
― lex pretend, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link
its not as abrasive as the bug thankfully (i do still like the bug though some of his earlier stuff kinda pre-dubstep is a bit too idm-noise-y) and its not as noisy/rocky as saul williams but yeah its similar in some ways, but i dont think its intellectual to the point of having no emotional impact - i love his voice and flow but the lyrics are very dispersed so its hard to really get wrapped up in them. but i find myself really liking (AND admiring) the beats. they i would say are what make it rap album of the year for me. the rappers on the very last track are a bit average though. was surprised to hear they are signed to sub pop too.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently came onstage (although a different stage) at the Pitchfork fest right after Odd Future
― curmudgeon, Monday, 18 July 2011 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
checking this out thanks to Spotify... this is HOT HOT HOT
― Spotify, Spotify me (DJP), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
strangely actually sounds better on cd than vinyl - i thought the lp would bring out all the bass and texture more but it doesnt have the clarity of the cd unfortunately, its not as well defined, or it could just be my system, though i dont think so, lots of bassy dubstep sounds fine on my hi fi.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:28 (twelve years ago) link