quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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you sit on it and do the spinning i guess?

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:20 (twelve years ago) link

lol you gave me awesome t-shirt idea: stationary cycle with caption "Sit on it and spin"

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

Mr. Fierro describes himself as “MacGyver.” He might have to transport some furniture, “read and synthesize documents, find obscure bits of information on Google and give presentations in Spanish, all in one day,” he says.

um, so, he has to read, use the internets, and talk about stuff (because if you are fluent enough to present in spanish it's really just presenting, point). and he sometimes moves furniture. on the same day even? this doesn't really sound all that difficult or unusual? most people use google? "synthesize" documents -> don't put this on your resume

daria-g, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:12 (twelve years ago) link

i feel kind of bad though, probably they were told by parents/teachers at college to follow your dreams and not worry a thing about racking up $100K+ in debt for a liberal arts degree, so long as you're doing what you love. um...

daria-g, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

In Las Cruces, my best male friend taught a spinning (fake bike) class, and one of my best female friends taught a spinning (lol wool) class, and keeping the idea of "spin" straight was impossible.

I'll show you the power of laughter! (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:25 (twelve years ago) link

feel like they could combine the two and have something there

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 01:26 (twelve years ago) link

I really want to somehow connect the pinata store in this thread with the "human pinata" quote in the madoff thread but I'm drawing a blank.

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 02:18 (twelve years ago) link

eh, i regret writing that the instant i wrote it. nevermind.

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to start using that angle more often

"WHADDYOU MEAN I CANNT HAVE ANOZZER DRINK? DO YOU KNOW I WORK FOR ZUH NEW YORK TIMESSSS?"

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:44 (twelve years ago) link

her editor is going to be spending his/her time making calls to get her into a free show? yeah. a-ha.

daria-g, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:45 (twelve years ago) link

tbf, editors will call in nyt ticket holds. but mostly photo editors. mostly writers follow up on their own so they don't run into a "not on the list" situation

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 05:17 (twelve years ago) link

Laurel fwiw the category of people in New York who rely on their parents to help them out of a tight spot now and then is i think much, much larger than what we're presented with here. i mean, dishwashers, livery cab drivers, nannies.. if they can't make ends meet they might also lean on their parents. of course they might get a "hell no" but maybe not. anyway just wanted to say that's not so damning, necessarily.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:02 (twelve years ago) link

Well, no, I suppose that's true. You can just take it as "the kind of person who calls their parents for help with the rent instead of moving out of a $1500 studio on the Upper West Side."

you're in the club and the light hits your ass like pow (Laurel), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 13:45 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno there are plenty of people going broke for their manhattan apt who don't have parents they can go to for rent. just as there are plenty of poor people in the country paying the loans / gas bills for an SUV (or whatever). there are lots of bad financial decisions that people make, they just need to be framed as bad decisions.

iatee, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:37 (twelve years ago) link

There's nothing wrong with having a family/financial support system and using it to maintain a pricey apartment, or having it and not using it and living with tight finances, but having available, accessible family support and crying poor is tiresome.

(many disclaimers about understanding the complexities of family relationships and how not everybody who could call on their family for money can reasonably do so for a whole host of reasons)

phantoms from a world gone by speak again the immortal tale: (Jenny), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 14:46 (twelve years ago) link

Right, what Jenny said. Similarly, it's tiresome for a person with varied career/job options open to complain about how hard it is to make a living doing exactly what they want.

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

He went to his apartment to change for that evening’s victory party. He re-emerged in his conservative finery, dressed as Clark Kent to do Superman’s work. Ralph Lauren suit, wide tie, Church’s brogues. Is it true that his Turnbull & Asser shirts are custom-tailored?

“Off-the-rack doesn’t fit me,” Mr. Ellner said. “I have long arms.”

the tune is space, Thursday, 30 June 2011 07:56 (twelve years ago) link

Wait what is that from?

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 June 2011 12:29 (twelve years ago) link

profile article about gay rights activist- it's the last line. The "long arms" thing is a *do you see?* about his social connections etc. but the fashion spread prose is stomach-turning and nyt does that shit all the time.

the tune is space, Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

"Is it true...?"

jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 30 June 2011 13:56 (twelve years ago) link

could it be, oh my god

ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link

I don't know from strollers but I feel like the fancier ones would be U-lockable somewhere. These people live in Brooklyn, what do they think is keeping all those bicycles from disappearing?

boxall, Sunday, 3 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

I called the New York Police Department’s public information office and asked a spokesman whether there was any numerical or anecdotal information indicating that this might be part of a trend.

He suggested that I put my “very unusual request” in an e-mail, but warned, “Your answer will probably be ‘we can’t accommodate you.’ ”

Undaunted, she called it a trend.

Also:

“Well, did you leave it outside?” it seemed beside the point. It’s not as though I had left a tennis bracelet languishing on the stoop.

I'm pretty OK with victim blaming in this case.

Jesse, Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link

eh its all a lil too self aware for my tastes

ice cr?m, Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

yeah same criticism I had but this was good

They are often left outside, especially when the alternative is usually dragging them up and down a flight of stairs.

goole+ (dayo), Sunday, 3 July 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

the self awareness of is really the most ugly component of the article imho

jackie tretorn (elmo argonaut), Sunday, 3 July 2011 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

Did you know if you leave shit unattended in plain sight it'll get swiped? Amazing.

mh, Sunday, 3 July 2011 19:41 (twelve years ago) link

In a "not so quiet" part of Brooklyn, no less.

Jesse, Sunday, 3 July 2011 19:42 (twelve years ago) link

that article makes me want to move to brooklyn so that i can steal strollers

j., Sunday, 3 July 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

In an e-mail following up on my initial inquiry, Detective Cheryl Crispin, a police spokeswoman, wrote that stolen strollers were “not a problem here in the city, period.”

“I believe it was a problem out West,” she wrote.

love the idea of a lawless frontier where death is a card game away and no $400 stroller is safe

my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 July 2011 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

people in brooklyn mourning their stolen smartphones is a quiddities article that needs to be written.

iatee, Sunday, 3 July 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

that article makes me want to move to brooklyn so that i can steal strollers

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yeah was thinking this is a market that needs exploiting

ice cr?m, Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link

i wouldn't be looking to profit, just throw them in whatever river is closest

j., Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

gowanus canal, filled w/strollers and guns

ice cr?m, Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link

turning the entire canal into stroller-landfill = a cheap and easy alternative to the billion dollar superfund cleanup

iatee, Sunday, 3 July 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/nyregion/with-salary-freeze-more-new-york-judges-are-leaving-the-bench.html?hp

Emily Jane Goodman, a State Supreme Court justice in Manhattan, said the practical effect of her stalled pay was that she had to sell a summer home in the Hamptons and was having trouble paying for increasing fees on her two-bedroom apartment in the city.

“Here I am,” Justice Goodman said, “in a position where I’m working to achieve justice for other people and I don’t feel that I’m experiencing justice.”

iatee, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 04:52 (twelve years ago) link

eh, as bad as that part reads, I think there's a legit issue in there. If you want good quality judges, you have to pay enough to make it a comfortable lifestyle. $144,000 is a nice salary but it's not a lot for someone with 20 or 30 years of experience and top qualifications in a specialized professional field. I mean a teacher with that much experience can make $100,000 in New York just for sticking it out that long.

mississippi delta law grad (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link

Current and former judges described the pressures they felt in fending off offers and trying to pay for mortgages and tuition bills. Mr. Spolzino, 52, said he had expected that he would remain until retirement, as judges did in the past.

“It’s very heady when you walk into a room and everybody rises, people laugh at your jokes,” he said.

Must be tough, only making three times NYC's median household income and 'fending off' people trying to pay you more. But what choice does he have if he wants people to laugh at his jokes?

I DIED, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 05:11 (twelve years ago) link

If you want good quality judges, you have to pay enough to make it a comfortable lifestyle.

this is nyt speak

iatee, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 05:46 (twelve years ago) link

I mean ultimately what's the lower limit of 'comfortable'? if we're comparing their salaries to nyc partner salaries, is $300,000 still not going to be 'comfortable'?

iatee, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 05:55 (twelve years ago) link

kids fresh outta law school who get into Manhattan BigLaw (and don't even know if they've passed the Bar Exam yet) make more than $144K/year (and that's not counting any bonuses). keep that in mind when critiquing Judge Goodman's statement.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 05:59 (twelve years ago) link

how do you go from owning (or whatever) a summer home to having trouble paying fees on your two-bedroom apartment?

j., Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link

how do you go from owning (or whatever) a summer home to having trouble paying fees on your two-bedroom apartment?

condo fees and/or poor personal financial management are two possibilities.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:05 (twelve years ago) link

condo BOARDS raising condo fees sky-high i meant.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:05 (twelve years ago) link

el condo pasa

marisa+ (buzza), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:08 (twelve years ago) link

I'd rather be a judge than go to jail...

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:08 (twelve years ago) link

kids fresh outta law school who get into Manhattan BigLaw (and don't even know if they've passed the Bar Exam yet) make more than $144K/year (and that's not counting any bonuses). keep that in mind when critiquing Judge Goodman's statement.

yeah but we don't have to pay their salary w/ our tax dollars

iatee, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:10 (twelve years ago) link

yeah but we don't have to pay their salary w/ our tax dollars

actually, you do ... to the extent that any of these BigLaw attorneys have any federal student loans (which, admittedly, gets paid back with interest and is damn near impossible to discharge in bankruptcy).

the real point, though, is that newly-minted JDs who work for BigLaw and who've never set foot in a courthouse (and most likely won't for years) are getting paid more money than the judges who rule on cases brought by their firms. kinda absurd, regardless of who's picking up the tab.

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:29 (twelve years ago) link

being a judge is awesome tho

1 you get to wear a rad robe
2 screw over anyone you h8

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 06:30 (twelve years ago) link


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