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But she's just a cdr performer. I would've been happy to see her when she came to town a couple weeks ago, but they doubled the ticket price from $10 to $20 ($7 for preorders).

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:04 (seven years ago) Permalink

Also, it was dance music and nobody was dancing. Trite complaint, I know, but I felt a little like dancing at the time.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:05 (seven years ago) Permalink

man I didn't even mention the prerecorded aspect of it because I've just seen so many performances like that and was so happy to see one that was good

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

but yeah you made the right call $20 is way too expensive for her

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Did you get to discuss the recording process, his working ways? And if you don't mind me asking, for which publication are you writing this interview?

I did, and you'll find out more when the piece runs next week in the OC Weekly. :-D (In brief, it's very much an on the fly thing.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Maus/Puro playing in LA when I'm in town, I think the Echo.

joyless shithead (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Great Ned! :-) Looking forward to it!

Frogbs Day Afternoon (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that lineup's playing earlier that week in Costa Mesa (thus the story).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Meanwhile, interview up at the Quietus:

Ned Raggett, Friday, 1 July 2011 15:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, good album. Interviewing the guy tomorrow, anyone want me to ask him anything?

man do i regret not reading this thread last week! i didnt have the record until this wknd tho...

google butt (Lamp), Monday, 4 July 2011 19:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

This is a great record, I want to write more but my thoughts are mostly about "degradation" plug-ins, mastering to VHS, "Is this chillwave and what does liking it say about a man" etc.

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 01:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

"Is this chillwave and what does liking it say about a man"

hope it says good things!

Z S, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 03:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah this is the sorta record that tempts you into writing/saying a bunch of grandiose garbage about it, mb? it also feels like the sorta thing that i might be embarrassed about liking cuz its so pseud-friendly

my thoughts are mostly like: '...'

Lamp, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 05:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I'm kind of worried about attending to it in too much depth.

Would love to see him live.. there's a great YT of him doing 'Matter Of Fact' in Paris, he looks like he gets into it.

One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 10:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

Absolutely not making any grand theoretical statements about it, but... it is undeniable that it is a fucking great record.

emil.y, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 12:28 (seven years ago) Permalink

It is a great record! Also thx this record for alerting me to the existence of Molly Nilsson, since "Hey Moon" was the track to leap out at me on the first few listens.

sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

That is the first one that jumped out at me, as well.
Molly Nilsson, eh? Any relation?

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

The grand theoretical statements about this record are wildly offputting.

Trudi Styler, the Creator (ithappens), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 13:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Probably so (ditto Ford & Lopatin), but the record IS pretty great. As is, of course, the Ford & Lopatin thing.

henry s, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hooray my interview. (Euclidean thoughts? Not my headline!)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Nice piece, Ned! And you indeed get him to talk about what he sees as the "artist's process", the unveiling of artistic work.

It does read as if you could've written an article four times as long!

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 7 July 2011 22:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hahah I could well have done. But wordcounts are wordcounts!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 01:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

That's not a bad headline! I thought it was gonna be "The Maus That Floored...Me" or something like that.

henry s, Friday, 8 July 2011 01:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

Every interview I read with that guy he's so Tragic and Heavy I LOVE IT

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 02:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

He actually sounded pretty exuberant! If intense.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 July 2011 02:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

Washington Post writer hates the live show
an excerpt:

A number of questions run through your mind during a John Maus concert.

What's he saying? Is he being serious? Is he okay? Isn't this a Kajagoogoo song? Who told that kid dancing up front that was an acceptable haircut?

But one question comes up more than any other — what's the point?

When Maus performs, as he did Tuesday at the Black Cat's backstage, it's like '80s karaoke night minus the hits — plus a hint of crazy. For 25 minutes the 31-year-old electronic music composer stalked the stage, leaped into the air, pulled his hair and howled along to his pre-recorded music that sounded like the third generation audio cassette dub of a long-forgotten new wave band. The way he shouted, flexed and bulged his eyes you half expected his skin to turn green and for him to transform into The Incredible Maus.

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 July 2011 12:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

Sounds like a review of mid-2000s Ariel Pink

Z S, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

All week I've been planning on picking this up after wory today, but now that BNM is going to mean it'll be sold out if they didn't order enough copies. Thats really my only beef with Pitchfork.

I've been a little lukewarm on his stuff prior to this album, but "Cop Killer" and all the iTunes samples I've heard make this sound like pretty much the perfect fit for my ears in 2011.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 8 July 2011 13:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I've never seen him live, but the pics at that Washington Post link are pretty hilarious.

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

(to be fair, there are tons of bands I love where live pics of them wouldn't do any justice to how intense the shows can actually be)

She Got the Shakes, Friday, 8 July 2011 14:24 (seven years ago) Permalink

Hmm. Do people really have a problem with "Rights For Gays"? I'm surprised that people would write it off as a piss-take.

John's live show reminds me of the live shows of other people I know who also went to CalArts.

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I saw him last, his laptop was screwing up with the playback and he shook it and pounded it, in character, 'til it fixed itself. I love this guy.

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:57 (seven years ago) Permalink

Pfork article also singles out the gorgeous (imo) "Tenebrae" as a misstep.

Trip Maker, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:01 (seven years ago) Permalink

Although I disagree with some people who see "Rights For Gays" and "Tenebrae" as missteps, or others who say "Cop Killer" or "Matter Of Fact" are missteps... there's something about John's ironic approach to lyric writing-- real, literate irony, the duality of meaning etc., not 'moustache on a trucker hat' irony-- that kind of makes these differences of opinion a non-issue? I mean, I feel like the unimpeachable pop hit "Believer" is in fact unsophisticated in comparison, but I am cool with the fact that somebody would prefer John Maus when he's singing about Jackie Chan instead of riskier stuff

Boehner & der club of GOP (Ówen P.), Friday, 8 July 2011 15:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

When I find nothing redeeming in 90% of an album's content I will usually, out of something like sportsmanship, at least entertain the hypothesis that I just didn't get it. In this case, I can't bring myself to care. There's obviously some kind of art-school mindfuckery afoot here, and I suspect that Maus aspires to some meta-theoretical point on the level of "But really, what is music anyway?" And maybe reality is just the hallucination of a five-dimensional computerized intelligence! Generous guy that I am, I'll concede that We Must Become the Pitiless Censors of Ourselves does, on some level, constitute music. Really shitty music.

I just...

There's obviously some kind of art-school mindfuckery afoot here I mean seriously, dude, what? How cynical must one have become to even think this is "obviously" what is going on? Critic in completely-not-getting-it and not-being-able-to-detect-earnestness-and-sincere-music-so-it-must-be-mindfuckery shocker...

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

What a piece of shit that review, gah. Can't get over it.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:08 (seven years ago) Permalink

The "writer" weighs in in the comments there, saying: "Consider this a satire on an unlikely and undeserving cult hero."


Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

Stopped reading at this piece of shit opinion: "The Walker Brothers produced little memorable music as a unit"

emil.y, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 12:13 (seven years ago) Permalink

I know, so so wrong.

What a waste of bytes and time that review is, christ. It is unhealthily winding me up.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 13:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

loved this dude last time I saw him

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

chillwave klaus kinski

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Monday, 18 July 2011 00:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

i'm all about this album

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 18 July 2011 10:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

I love this guy so much. Can't wait to see him live.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like him, but i really don't get the huge critical adoration. Maybe dude is just so successful with justifying his retro shtick with intellectual/performance theory word-games it gives writers a boner.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:41 (seven years ago) Permalink

Though i love this

There's just something about a metal skeleton coming out of fire that's really poetic and just extraordinary

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:44 (seven years ago) Permalink

Uh oh, I think I'm going to eat my own words with that 1st post.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:45 (seven years ago) Permalink

Mmm... It seems people who don't particularly get the critical acclaim always call it things like a "schtick", like you do as well. I don't think his music is a "schtick" at all. He's got a distinctive style, but why do people with John Maus call it a "schtick" so often? Most bands have a particular style but their sounds doesn't get called "schtick". Is it the retro sound that makes people think his music is a gimmick, tongue-in-cheek? I think he's completely sincere about his music.

Asamoah Nyan (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 19:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

b/c lofi 80s appropriations are a schtick now? i think its pretty fair 2 say that what is distinctive about maus is his approach to publicity and interviews

teflon dawn (uptown churl), Thursday, 21 July 2011 17:55 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dont know anything about his interviews or publicity but his new album sounds like someone drowning in the deep end of chillwave, like dredging up the queasier elements.

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 19:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

wow, that's horrible. I hadn't realised that was his brother

ogmor, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 08:01 (four months ago) Permalink

I wonder if he got hit by the viral lung thing going around Europe -- it's apparently really dangerous because the symptoms are pretty mild.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 08:40 (four months ago) Permalink

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