40 and Quik never really stopped/changed they just kept cranking shit out under the radar. But Butler's been through three iterations/name changes without being particularly prolific.
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
this sort of "second" career/crit revival is sort of.... unusual? especially for hip hop. Kool keith being maybe the only other example I can think of
DOOM!
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
ooh yeah duh
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, they even shared the mask gimmick, though butler dropped it p quickly
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
this album doesnt make as much sense in headphones as it does on a good system
you really need to play it loud or just on speakers
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
dunno about headphones, but it sounds MASSIVE coming through 4 big speakers
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
like how "a treatease dedicated to the avian airess..." kind of flirts with "i'll take you there" (and namedrops "where i'm from")
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, the bass in this record is huuuuuge.
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
I would go down to Easy Street, but I've been feeling like a zombie all day and going into town might not be in the cards.
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Finally got a better copy -- what a difference.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
totally
― Number None, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 21:27 (twelve years ago) link
Decided I will be going to Easy Street tonight. Contenderizer (or anyone else), if you see me, say what up to u mans and dem.
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:31 (twelve years ago) link
hey rev, missed u at easy street but did go out. solid crowd! boring though. not the show, the crowd, no one dancing or anything. felt like the music wasn't really connecting due to apathy, but did like it. bought the LP and got a patch, which i will likely put in a box and never see again.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 04:23 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, I thought the show itself was great. Agree about the crowd, though. The unreleased songs they did were :O
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
digables were awesome and this is awesome.
― his name was rony. rony from my cage. (stevie), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:36 (twelve years ago) link
review in clash magazine (crappy uk music mag) that i saw excerpted in press release said something along the lines of "the only reference point for this is Odd Future" which made me weep for the paucity of knowledge at the fingertips of indie-rock-crits-writing-abt-hip-hop today.
― his name was rony. rony from my cage. (stevie), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:38 (twelve years ago) link
"his album doesnt make as much sense in headphones as it does on a good system"
You must need new headphones cos it sounds prime through mine. My headphones ARE my "good system" anymore though.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
The unreleased songs they did were :O
yeah, there were a few songs i wasn't unfamiliar with. one ("black is..." or something like that? awesome) turns out to be a bonus moment at the end of "swerve" on the LP. wasn't in the leak i've been listening to.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:21 (twelve years ago) link
have listened to this on a bunch of different media and stereo setups now. more than most albums, it sounds p radically different depending on how you're listening to it.
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:25 (twelve years ago) link
SP is kinda similar to odd future in a sense tho - both seem like genuinely fresh versions of stuff happening in indie rap in the late 90s
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, very much, and in SP's case, i think you can hear some early 90s conscious fallout, slam rapping, not a bad thing
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:38 (twelve years ago) link
completely forgot about the Easy Street show, just bought a ticket for Friday night
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
i have come to really hate slam rapping/poetry in the last 10 years so im pretending i dont hear it on this album
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
one thing it really makes me think is that j beez came along about 18 years too soon wit the remedy
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 08:55 (twelve years ago) link
j beez were basically predicting the dark/experimental underground rappers from NY a few years too early
i still havent heard the unreleased version of that album
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:05 (twelve years ago) link
it's not the greatest thing in the world, every version i've ever heard has sounded way too muffled, like it was never mixed properly, even (especially) the "crazy wisdom masters" EP tracks
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:11 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoBlsDzc3Tg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s32wzXywWUc
― his name was rony. rony from my cage. (stevie), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ NUTS in an AWESOME way
forget seattle, most important moment in underground rap since i dont know when?
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 11:58 (twelve years ago) link
i think the vinyl comes in some sort of felt sleeve!
so does the CD version, fwiw
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 30 June 2011 05:58 (twelve years ago) link
LP sleeve feels soft and sort of velvety/felty, but i think it's just nice paper?
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 06:15 (twelve years ago) link
This is one of the best albums I've heard all year and I rarely listen to hip hop. It has an authentic cross-genre appeal. I guess that in the end being released through Sub Pop was undoubtedly a sign that it would be picked up by white indie kids such as myself.
― ◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:11 (twelve years ago) link
raises eyebrow at inauthentic cross-genre appeal
― And the piano, it sounds like a carnivore (contenderizer), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
I phrased it wrong didn't I? I meant that it's an album that has the potential to attract listeners that usually listen to other genres and it doesn't even seems like it's trying. Some artists and albums try too hard.
― ◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Thursday, 30 June 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link
kind funny how many factory sounds from the sp404 end up on the shabazz records (lots of drum sounds, the "break!" sample etc).
the new lp is growing on me, though at first i kept turning it off and going back to the eps. the first two + last two songs would have made a killer ep.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
his rapping is really what holds the album together imho - the beats/music are great but they are very disjointed and fractured, the vocals are what keep it tied together
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
totally, i don't think it would work at all as instrumentals
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
stevie/contenderizer OTM upthread about this stuff being like a sequel to J. Beez Wit Tha Remedy-era Jungle Brothers, seems like the most obvious reference point to me.
― a man is only a guy (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
hoping this grows on me cause after 1st listen it sounds like a dude fucking around with new gear/programs
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
that rawness is kind of what i like about it, especially on the eps (which don't even sound properly mastered to me). i never have that sense of "how the fuck did he make that beat?", but he still has a sound and knows what he's going for & what works for his vocals.
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
o_O
http://dreamhamptonfilmvideo.blogspot.com/2010/04/i-am-ali-2002_13.html?utm_source=BP_recent
― these goons were made for waka (The Reverend), Thursday, 7 July 2011 05:54 (twelve years ago) link
ok, this was the amazing, previously unknown first song they performed when i saw them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJdiUNDoYZw&feature=player_embedded#at=32
ANOTHER REGAL GUN BEAT TO THUG TO
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 06:17 (twelve years ago) link
the persona non gratis in this palace been on sacred dirtpeacock swatches of color off my leathers burstrosé wristwatches whisper time in pleasure verse
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
was just listening to the album...
and shit yeah, i remember that! esp the "pilgrim marketing plan" intro line and "bop hard." where'd it come from? (and wonder why it got cut)
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 11 July 2011 19:09 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently, it's an itunes bonus track.
― bed bath and beyoncé (The Reverend), Monday, 11 July 2011 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.daytrotter.com/dt/shabazz-palaces-concert/20054896-3738457.html
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 14 July 2011 15:20 (twelve years ago) link
if someone gets a direct link plz post. making you sign up to download a recording you don't own the rights to is bullshit.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.mediafire.com/?5nzyyg4hv37225x
here's shabazz live on KEXP in May, no signup required. the same exact songs + more.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
ok so i really listened to "of light" a lot and the other EP and dug the hell out of it, but never really read anything abt shabazz palaces....is the dude from digable planets???????
― van ingalls wilder (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 July 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link