uhhhhh David Kahn on the podcast? uhhhhh
2 minutes in and it is already AWKWARD.
― polyphonic, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link
*tunes in*
― Clay, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 02:24 (twelve years ago) link
saw that but i'm too scared to listen.
― circles, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
The piece about the writer who used his garage hoop to help get over his dad's suicide felt like it should have been so much better, but that's about par for Grantland - okay writing, but without anything interesting to say.
(also, Skip Bayless is a cunt)
― bill magill (milo z), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
They prove to all middle-American sports fans that "Soccer really IS the beautiful game, a-holes!" (This belief is actually 70 percent of the spirit that has driven the great Northwest Soccer Explosion in MLS.)
i have had this thought, tbh
― rebel yelp (gbx), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 04:02 (twelve years ago) link
could someone do a clusterfuck summary of the simmons-kahn podcast? i'm not good with high levels of awkwardness
― get at me frog (symsymsym), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link
This is how I heard it, though to be honest I wasn't listening super close after the first few minutes because there was a lack of expected fireworks:
Simmons, when confronted, backs down as always, saying he didn't really say all these horrible things or mean them at any rate. Kahn is professional (and semi-delusional) throughout, backing his statements with plausible if not always defensible outside of his mind reasons. Bill awkwardly tries to rebut a few of them but basically concedes almost everything. What could - and should - have been a somewhat hostile encounter ends up being like him and Isiah Thomas in his book; Bill is cowed and afraid to end in disagreement.
If you want a peak into Kahn's thought process it's interesting. If you want a real discussion of long-term disagreements between the two parties or Kahn to challenge Bill's caricature of him than not really.
It's not as clusterfucky as the podcast with the guy who wrote the ESPN book. That was comedy gold if you wanted to see Simmons unhinged.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link
thanks!
― get at me frog (symsymsym), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
kahn is a creepy mix of corporate dronespeak and smarminess.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol so his master plan is to create a smallball team without defined roles
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
excuse me while i skip back aways but...oh man, americans talking about cricket is always first rate entertainment. i mean, understandably so, it is a truly odd 'game', but that doesn't diminish the fun. you will get closer to the byzantine truth if you just forget baseball at the outset, it is no help here. but then, why bother, cricket will never ever convert anyone that hasn't had it culturally beaten into them. it truly is the sport that defies you to like it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link
while i am here i will say that although i was finally done with simmons a while ago now, despite my boston-biased efforts to hang in there, i kinda did want grantland to come off but it seems pretty terrible so far and i have decided i would at least enjoy a crash and burn if not actively root for it.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
hey man i tried, gimme a break.
and believe me 'forgetting about baseball' is not hard for me to do
― ~edgy~ (goole), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
in conclusion, as a guy who works in a large corporate environment i am extremely glad i do not work with david kahn.
i have run into guys like that and they are deeply uncool.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
huh, one of the founders of the awl (the publisher david cho) is going to grantland
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like for every person he hires that i like hes planning on hiring another person that i hate
― ☂ (max), Wednesday, 29 June 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
The Lorne Michaels theory
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
wow theres a buttload of people writing for this site huh
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 00:16 (twelve years ago) link
bill simmons on ryan reynolds
― get at me frog (symsymsym), Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link
thought that was a pretty interesting article
― dirty deathdrone boys (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
even if you need to strip away the "how hollywood is like the nba" arc
― dirty deathdrone boys (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
i do not need a ryan renolds themed bill simmons think pece in my life, i do not need it!
― ice cr?m, Thursday, 30 June 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
the will smith part is pretty otm actually
― a slight case of joe johnsonitis (agent hibachi), Thursday, 30 June 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
Grantland.com succinctly summarized
― Clay, Thursday, 30 June 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like for every person he hires that i like hes planning on hiring another person that i hate― ☂ (max), Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:58 PM
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmhb7goxVB1qa9bmvo1_400.png LaBeouf
― rip nyc chicken (am0n), Thursday, 30 June 2011 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― dirty deathdrone boys (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 30 June 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
muniz
― ☂ (max), Friday, 1 July 2011 12:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6708682/the-math-problem
too easy i guess but i'm surprised we didn't take a doodoo on this one
― bros -izing bros (k3vin k.), Friday, 8 July 2011 14:39 (twelve years ago) link
it was way, way too easy
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
i mean, i'm sympathetic to the position but it was just a dumb article.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
that piece has been savaged all over the place
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 July 2011 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/5819051/dear-grantland-your-motto-is-wrong
this is really damning & unbelievable -- i can tell you from experience that editing is really not that hard, and even less hard is setting up a system so that you don't have a myriad of typos in your articles, especially when you have an unlimited budget and especially when you're posting like 3 stories a day, most of which aren't even much more than 1,000 words long. some of this shit is just embarrassing.
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Friday, 8 July 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link
yeah agreed
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
i will use this forum to offer my services as grantland copy editor--i only ask that they match my current salary and never make me meet bill simmons in person.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2011 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
can't match your current salary but I can offer you a substantial share in the toronto raptors organization and only a 5% chance of ever meeting bill simmons in person
― dayo, Friday, 8 July 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
i will have to discuss with my accountant and my attorney
― call all destroyer, Friday, 8 July 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
(he means his cats)
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 8 July 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
mr. fluffy jd & miss whiskers cpa
― johnny crunch, Friday, 8 July 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
The least a copy editor can do is verify all the proper nouns and dates, which takes no time at all.
― polyphonic, Friday, 8 July 2011 18:25 (twelve years ago) link
the "I fix the NBA" column is so scattered. like he has a paragraph about how horrible donald sterling is and then uses the fact that he hasn't cut into the lakers' popularity as evidence that greater LA needs an 3rd franchise and chicago needs a 2nd.
― circles, Saturday, 9 July 2011 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
ha yeah the 'just get everybody into a room and figure it out ffs' line of reasoning is usual reserved for like the stupidest of all politicians etc
― ice cr?m, Saturday, 9 July 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
thx again upthread dudes for the :07 seconds or less rec. after not paying thirty for a Chapters copy I was stoked to find it for six and change on getting home. great read
― bear, bear, bear, Monday, 11 July 2011 01:16 (twelve years ago) link
Even that fuck Mike Barnicle gets to write for this thing? Ugh.
― polyphonic, Monday, 11 July 2011 19:13 (twelve years ago) link
it was an inoffensive enough piece but yes my reaction was mike fuckin' barnicle? really?
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 July 2011 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
that asshole disgraced himself in boston-area media years ago. it's amazing that anybody lets him write.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 July 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
he must've been super nice to simmons when bill was a pup
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 July 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
i can't figure out biographically where they would have crossed paths--maybe bu j-school? but yeah that would not shock me.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 July 2011 19:49 (twelve years ago) link
This story has been updated to correct the spelling of Colombia and to clarify that Megan Rapinoe was not a starter for the United States.
..................
― gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Monday, 11 July 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
culumbia
― call all destroyer, Monday, 11 July 2011 20:29 (twelve years ago) link
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yeah wtf this guys is like on tv all the time still after making up fake cancer patients just so he could push his self righteous butthole shtick
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 02:22 (twelve years ago) link