Com Truise sounds good and all, but Channel Pressure is another level of achievement entirely
This is all a matter of what one's priorities are; I don't necc. subscribe to the whole "more details, more depth is always better thing". sometimes ye just want something simple with fat bass and no dorky vocals.
― so confused (blank), Sunday, 26 June 2011 03:53 (twelve years ago) link
i guess i think of 'channel pressure' as being only partially about technology (and our relationship w/ progress or w/e) but stuff like time wharp & tom cruise is much more explcitally concerned w/ that stuff, with using the process of making music to comment on the 'idea' of making music?
like: this is a song called 'Oberheim Matrix-6' which was made on an oberheim matrix-6 vs. this is song called 'Synthetic Vision' and it was made on an [...] and has lyrics about a boy falling in love with a robot on telelvision
― Lamp, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
that is maybe the stupidest post in long history of stupid posts on ilm :/
― Lamp, Tuesday, 28 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
No I think you pretty accurately described a very real aesthetic divide with this stuff.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
com truise remix of hussle club's 'loose tights' wouldn't sound too out of place on channel pressure fwiw
― Dear Projectionist (blueski), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 23:55 (twelve years ago) link
after bad-mouthing this album earlier in the thread, I ended up impulse buying it the other day after seeing it on a New Releases rack. It's scratching an itch I didn't know I had. I guess I like it after all.
― rockapads, Saturday, 9 July 2011 05:49 (twelve years ago) link
stuff like time wharp & tom cruise is much more explcitally concerned w/ that stuff, with using the process of making music to comment on the 'idea' of making music?
okay, but what's the comment being offered? or is it just "a comment?"
― also we’re divorced now and i hate this movie. (contenderizer), Saturday, 9 July 2011 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://youtu.be/pukb_scv1Ao
hoops fan in me loves that he's called this chuck person
― davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:05 (twelve years ago) link
also the chuck person tape is sooooo good, i say this as someone who has regularly googled sunsetcorp so i can listen to the eccojams
― davon cuul II (m bison), Thursday, 14 July 2011 22:18 (twelve years ago) link
I just picked up volume 7 of the "FRKWYS" series with Lopatin, Laurel Halo, James Ferarro, David Borden, and Samuel Godin, just out on RVNG records. It's really, really good, and I particularly like the last track "Twilight Pacific" with its endlessly repeating Oneohtrix slow melty Juno arpeggio. There's a graininess, a delacquered quality, to Lopatin's ambient stuff that I think sets it apart (in a good way) from the smoother sounds of the Emeralds crew (especially the few Spectrum Spools releases so far), etc. I hear there's a new Oneohtrix LP in the works for release this fall.
― Clarke B., Monday, 25 July 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
Last two tracks on the FRKWYS album are fantastic, a fine listen.
― One Big Craigo, Full Of Bad Boingos (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 26 July 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
Oneohtrix playing live this Saturday night at The Stone NYC, 8:00 PM...
― Clarke B., Monday, 8 August 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
I've seen him live just this Friday and tbh it kinda disappointed me. but I guess the joke's on me - expected more slow melty Juno arpeggios / "chillwave'y" kind of ambient, got more noisy (at times real noisy) stuff instead. at least, in the end it wasn't boring.
― V79, Monday, 8 August 2011 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
lol i saw him saturday and i mentioned in another thread that i fell asleep in the front row but this is really more my issue than with the music. it was cute how he kept circling his hand to illustrate that he was playing loops. yes i know you are playing loops.
― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
was it a nice sleep? or just the sleep you could have had on the couch, falling asleep to the **channel pressure**
― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 8 August 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link
That's the nicest kind! I'm definitely going Saturday, and I look forward to seeing what he does... The venue doesn't sell tickets in advance, and I have a long history of underestimating how much NYC crowds will be into a given artist, so I'm trying to figure out how far in advance to line up.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 9 August 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.dummymag.com/news/2011/08/17/oneohtrix-point-never-announce-replica/
― diamonddave85, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
Excellent news.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
Clips from the two non-OPN forthcoming releases on Software here:
http://alteredzones.com/posts/1805/software-label-preps-releases-opn-harmonizer-airbird/
Airbird is Ford solo, Harmonizer is Toby Aronson and Greg Davis.
Harmonizer sounding gooooood first time around.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
have u heard the tape they did on nna?
― Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
harmonizer track seems to be channeling jon hassell, nice. dig the sparseness.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:06 (twelve years ago) link
I had the exact same thought. It's terrific in any case.
― scott pgwp (pgwp), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 05:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, and I'll second the nna tape that lamp mentioned. def worth a listen.
have found greg davis' stuff to be a bit spotty but the stuff that clicks really does the trick. and I am really liking the new angle (I think? I certainly haven't heard it all) he's working w/the harmonizer material. could be aronson, I'm not really familiar.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 06:01 (twelve years ago) link
The first OPN single off Replica sounds really freaking promising--creepy cut-off loops that sort of line up with recent Andy Stott and Actress stuff to these ears: http://www.pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/12350-sleep-dealer/
― Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Friday, 9 September 2011 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
hrm... i am a huge lopatin stan but this seems like the kind of tune that could really use some of the immersive sound engineering skills of an actress or andy stott, but instead he's doing the same old midi-fied schtick. i could still maybe be persuaded by a better quality mp3
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 10 September 2011 04:50 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is good
kinda reminds me of oval
kept expecting a kick drum to come in but really glad it didn't
what does "same old midi-fied schtick" mean
― missingNO, Saturday, 10 September 2011 09:22 (twelve years ago) link
it means he keeps making his sound more and more lo-fi yet it's still very digital (ie: everything released as games / ford and lopatin), and i think this new track could benefit from the attention to detail you'd find on an oval record. it's like he's approaching the creepy cut-off loops with a chillwave aesthetic and it just sounds kinda flat and annoying to me?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Saturday, 10 September 2011 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
"attention to detail"
U trollin
― lukas, Saturday, 10 September 2011 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
can you explain? do you hear some level of intricacy in the sound design on this track that my ears are too ignorant to pick up? it's a style that forces you to pay attention to texture, and this texture sounds muddy imo. and whatever pitch that distortion is in gives me a headache every time (not that i can't handle extreme/high pitched tones, just give me ryoji ikeda over this any day)
these criticisms don't apply to any other opn material fwiw
this harmonizer thing with greg davis on the software label sounds awesome tho, some definite jon hassell vibes
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 11 September 2011 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
ha, looking upthread i realize i am a bit late on the harmonizer woops
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Sunday, 11 September 2011 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
This song seems kind of a chore to listen to
― The-Dreams That Money Can Buy (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 11 September 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
its like a rubbish footwork remix of a opn track. the ominous chillwave undertow is the best thing about it
― ogmor, Sunday, 11 September 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link
psychgawsple, you likely have better ears than i do - maybe if i had your ears the sound would drive me nuts. that said, this is a track with tape hiss and a sense of unease, from a dude that loves the pathos of dusty gear. the low-quality samples fit. personally my favorite moments are when he gets past that, i'm thinking of moments on the f+l record and much of returnal. but thinking that the track would be better if oval produced it is missing the point.
― lukas, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'm liking 'channel pressure' but it's a little too jumpy? fuck concept albums imo. there's so many cool moves and great little moments but i just feel like they should all get their own song. i thought 'that we can play' was really moving, this doesn't let its ideas breathe as much, even though a lot of it is a step up, idk
― banana mogul (goole), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
ya i get that the fidelity stuff is deliberate, but i like tape hiss (usually) and i just don't think it suits that style. but w/e i think an album of him attempting similar things from different directions could be great
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/riverscuomo/status/116226967300358144
https://twitter.com/0pn/status/116229792520617984
https://twitter.com/riverscuomo/status/116238295104622592
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:37 (twelve years ago) link
Haha. The next best thing since Loutellica: Oneothrix Point Cuomo.
― 'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
OMG, if this happens I am SO over Loutallica.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
xp - i know what you mean about channel pressure being both a step up and a step down... did you like the instrumentals tho? if you wanted things to have more room to breathe that might be a good option
lol no way that collab can be bad right?
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Tuesday, 20 September 2011 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
ooh wee ooh I look just like a lossy VHS of buddy holly
― ima.tumblr.com (@imsothin) (m bison), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
god damn you half cybertronic girls, you do it 2 me every time
― memories of c-murder (Lamp), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
"hrm... i am a huge lopatin stan but this seems like the kind of tune that could really use some of the immersive sound engineering skills of an actress or andy stott, but instead he's doing the same old midi-fied schtick. i could still maybe be persuaded by a better quality mp3"
"it means he keeps making his sound more and more lo-fi yet it's still very digital (ie: everything released as games / ford and lopatin), and i think this new track could benefit from the attention to detail you'd find on an oval record. it's like he's approaching the creepy cut-off loops with a chillwave aesthetic and it just sounds kinda flat and annoying to me?"
This doesn't make any sense to me. Actress' stuff is totally lo-fi and very digital; OPN, up until the new album, has worked mostly with analog gear, and not a ton of audible processing. Also, I have no idea what you mean by "MIDI-fied schtick."
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah the Oval comparison hit me when i heard this new material live the other week at field day. Id say the closest parallel is the first field album which was pretty lo-fi but had its charm. The Pitchfork track was probably the poppiest moment and not really representative, the rest of the loops were seriously mangled (though occasional hiphop rhythms would surface) and there was a lot more oval style information overload noise like the first track on returnal. Overall it left me puymped for the new album.
― straightola, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
Listening again its the field if he was more into theo parrish
― straightola, Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:05 (twelve years ago) link
Totally stoked for Weezabix Point Never
― master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
Actress' stuff is totally lo-fi and very digital
i guess actress uses effects/distortion in a way that doesn't strike me as 'lo-fi' at all? and when i talk about lopatin becoming more lo-fi and more digital i am referring to the games/ford and lopatin releases, he even had a song called "too much midi" fer chrissakes (not to mention an entire album of overblown digital pop). and tho i loved these production values/midi schtick on channel pressure i think it sounds distracting on this new song, like it's being used more in the manner you would find on a ltd edition tape release on a boutique label- sorta slapped on top of the song for effect instead of placed within the song in a dynamic way? i'm really sick of explaining this btw
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Wednesday, 21 September 2011 23:47 (twelve years ago) link
just chill and ride the soundwaves bro
― #@_@# (Lamp), Thursday, 22 September 2011 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
fer real i need a smoke
― it's time for the purpculator (psychgawsple), Thursday, 22 September 2011 06:02 (twelve years ago) link
Pre-orders for the new record now up... http://oneohtrixpointnever.bigcartel.com/
― Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 27 September 2011 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
audiophile bundle is very tempting
― jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link