IMPOSSIBLE!
― nerve_pylon, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Point That Thing Somewhere Else, one of the easiest votes ILM's had in awhile.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link
It's ok it's alright it's ok it's alright it's ok it's alright OH YEAH
Love Billy Two but does anything trump the perfection of that line?
― dad a, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Point That Thing is my choice too seeing as it is my second favourite song of all time.
― Hipster Loser-Loser (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, hard to see anything other than "point that thing" winning
― Edward III, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link
rly??? anything could happen and tally ho (and at the bottom) get lots of love in the POX: New Zealand thread...
― Hipster Loser-Loser (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:28 (fifteen years ago) link
"Getting Older"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Great stuff all around, but I always thought "Odditty" was consensus pick for THE GREAT CLEAN SONG and it's certainly mine.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link
Odditty
― Suggest Ban Permalink (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Point That Thing Somewhere Else (A Return) (live)
live version is so fucking epic... could listen to it all day long.
― (*゚ー゚)θ L(。・_・) °~ヾ(・ε・ *) (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Live version of At the Bottom is great too. Like Warsaw or early Cure, but with muscles.
― Suggest Ban Permalink (contenderizer), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah At The Bottom is awesome...as far as the six bonus live tracks at the end..."Art School" and "Hold Onto the Rails" would have made a legendary single...prolley one of the best of the 80s.
― insufferably annoying (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
strange, I had the cassette version of this, which didn't have the last six tracks on it.
Not sure what I'll vote for, this will require some thought. Point that thing is kind of epic, but I've always loved Billy Two...
― askance johnson, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link
i think it was only the Homestead CD version possibly???
― insufferably annoying (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link
POINT DAT THANG
― I SPIT ON YOUR GRAVE - I THUMB THROUGH YOUR MAGAZINES (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link
so much good stuff -- but "point" is one the jams of all time ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link
guys should i like track down clean releases or just get the anthology??
my band used to cover 'someone' and i'd vote for it for sentimental reasons, but it's not on the list \(°°)/
― pretty impressive war skills (gbx), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link
i like the track order/brevity of Compilation, but Anthology is great too ... get em both.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
cool thanks
― pretty impressive war skills (gbx), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the orig. 12 tracks (and quick step) are on disc 1 of anthology...get that.
Someone was on Vehicle (is that right?); it's on the second disc...reformed Clean has some decent moments but the stuff I really go nuts for is the old stuff which is mostly collected on Disc 1 of Anthology...if you can find a copy of Compilation, though, snap it up!
― insufferably annoying (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:50 (fifteen years ago) link
i actually love Vehicle as much as the earlier stuff ... beautiful, beautiful record all the way through
― tylerw, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah Compilation and Vehicle are both totally amazing, totally brilliant. After that, I can really take or leave most of their stuff...
― askance johnson, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
actually Modern Rock is not that bad...pretty and atmospheric...Safe in the Rain and Outside the Cage hold up quite well I think.
― insufferably annoying (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:10 (fifteen years ago) link
At The Bottom. the second most listened to song on my ipod.
― Michael B, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link
odditty
― 69, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link
at one time, I thought Odditty was a sort of mangled rewrite of The Who's "The Kids Are Alright" I'm not at all sure about this though
― insufferably annoying (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Tally Ho!
― verhexen, Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link
^
hard decision tho
― Minister for Compression Issues (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Getting Older v Point That thing v Anything Could happen.
Hard Decision.
― Hinklepicker, Wednesday, 31 December 2008 08:47 (fifteen years ago) link
ODDITY! i really like the second disc of 'anthology' too. i'm probably in the minority on this but i <3 david kilgour solo, esp. 'here come the cars' and 'the heavy eights.' and getaway is totally underrated.
― Matt P. (Matt P), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 08:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 1 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
Tally Ho! sounds a helluva lot like "Wishing Well" by Love is All
― Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 2 January 2009 07:01 (fifteen years ago) link
is that a spraypaint can on percussion in 'getting older'??
― electrodribble sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Beatnik, Slug Song and Billy Two deserve better.
― Bored of Canada (S-), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 01:11 (fifteen years ago) link
poor Billy Two
― brains, hand-rolled (gnarly sceptre), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 10:43 (fifteen years ago) link
xpost yeah Slug Song is pretty much dub....if only the people knew...
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 18 February 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link
btw: absolutely thrilling show at LPR on Tuesday. Didn't expect them to sounds as "big" as they did. Place was packed as well. I had no idea they still had that sort of following. Song selection was almost perfect and they really appeared to be enjoying themselves. Not sure, however, what was up with D. Kilgour's "look" though. The headband and bandanna made him look like Mike Reno. They certainly brought it though.
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
Washington DC tonight
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
i have been wondering about these shows! can't believe they didn't come anywhere near where i live, but would like to experience vicariously if possible. more deets please!
― game of crones (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
urgh, so jealous. the clean are the best.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
Well, I don't have a complete set list but recall hearing "Anything Could Happen" and "Getting Older." They also did a nice version of "Drawing to a (w)hole. Also, the earlier part of the set they stretched things out a bit frequently getting into a hypnotic groove of sorts and, seriously, sounding a bit like Neu. Totally unexpected. Having been a long time fan but never having seen them before I expected them to be a bit rickety and shambolic but...they were the exact opposite. They were heavy.
They played about an hour and the crowd was very enthusiatic.
― kwhitehead, Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
OH MANthat is the exact iteration of the clean that i love! i'll pass the goofy shambolic stuff for the supergroovy side any day. extremely bummed to miss this!!
― game of crones (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah. cool that they're doing things from Vehicle -- that album is so good.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure, however, what was up with D. Kilgour's "look" though. The headband and bandanna made him look like Mike Reno.
Haha yeah it was weird. I've never seen them before so at first I thought "does he always dress like that?" but then Hamish joked about how "David's going for a cross between Dick Dale and Mark Knopfler."
http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/98466224af8f11e1a92a1231381b6f02_6.jpg
I took a phone photo but it didn't really turn out.
― dmr, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link
ha, yeah, looks a bit like knopfler in that pic.
― tylerw, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
the ones I remember from the setlist were Point That Thing (first song they played ... amazing), Anything Can Happen, Getting Older, Drawing to a Hole, and Tally Ho (last one before encore)
― dmr, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
it was headband + bandana + dark aviators
― dmr, Thursday, 7 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds awesome - glad they've still got a following in the US. Really miss seeing them play all the time back in NZ.
Since this is the only active Nun-related thread, I'll repost this from the bandcamp thread -
the Dead C's Bruce Russell cherry-picks the Flying Nun back pages for Time To Go: The Southern Psychedelic Moment 1981-1986http://flyingnun.bandcamp.com/album/time-to-goThe Bilders' "Russian Rug" is all-time, and really nice to see Mary Heney get prominence w/the tracks from 25 Cents/the Shallows/Scorched Earth Policy/Victor Dimisch Band/etc alongside the Clean/Chills/Gordons/&c.
BTW "Hang Onto The Rail" (which a friend got to yell at Bob Scott when he stumbled on a staircase) & "Art School" were robbed in this poll.
― etc, Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
Did they play At the Bottom!?
― game of crones (La Lechera), Thursday, 7 June 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
https://dustedmagazine.tumblr.com/post/675284293355012096/listening-post-the-clean
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
Thx for posting that.
― tobo73, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 03:44 (one year ago) link
Amusing fact in the ABC (Aus) article that had passed me by:
At their much talked about meeting in June, New Zealand Prime Minster Jacinda Ardern gifted Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese with a copy of The Clean's legendary 1981 Boodle Boodle Boodle EP.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 06:01 (one year ago) link
The Courtneys just released this cover in tribute
― Wet Legume (morrisp), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link
Imagine gifting someone these certified delights and they turn around and sling you a Powderfinger record. pic.twitter.com/whEGtEI7Se— Elon Müsker Dü (@BenjaminMillar) June 9, 2022
― aphoristical, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 07:12 (one year ago) link
The Clean probably via Grant Robertson (the Minister of Finance) who seems to be a legit FN fan - for better or worse. The Great Unwashed at #1:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/the-mixtape/audio/2018709162/the-mixtape-grant-robertson
― linee, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 07:29 (one year ago) link
LOL, Benjamin Millar OTM.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 07:50 (one year ago) link
if you haven't checked out the bonus stuff from a recent reissue of Getaway, it has some of the best live Clean recordings I've ever heard — just unbelievable. https://theclean.bandcamp.com/album/getaway-deluxe-2016-remaster🕸
― willem, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 08:18 (one year ago) link
Very sad news: Hamish Kilgour has died. Let me tell you a small story about his kindness to me-- https://t.co/lawLlkRei1— Douglas Wolk (@douglaswolk) December 5, 2022
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 09:20 (one year ago) link
RIP. selfishly I'm lamenting that I never got to see them live. almost did once, they were opening for Yo La Tengo in LA, but we were waiting for my then-girlfriend's brother because he was driving, and he was out selling someone weed and turned up late and we missed their entire set. he's dead now so I probably shouldn't be mad at him any more.
― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 09:44 (one year ago) link
Roy Montgomery opened for Dry Cleaning tonight in Auckland and started with something called "Blues For Hamish".
Glad I got to see & dance to the Clean as often as I did in Dunedin/Auckland. Didn't know enough about his life & music in New York - thought this was a lovely interview:
so incredibly heartbroken about hamish kilgour. i profiled him in 2014 when his sad sweet solo debut came out & it received the headline, "the quiet struggle of hamish kilgour." when hamish shared the article it was with the note, "it's not quiet." https://t.co/xhm7msYoJU— jesse jarnow (parody, i think?) (@bourgwick) December 6, 2022
Has anyone ever heard that Cleaned Out! covers comp Douglas put out? Never turned up in NZ; keep hoping it'll surface on YouTube or Bandcamp one day.
― etc, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link
Yeah, that feature ^ is really good.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link
listening to "all of it or nothing" on account of that article this is great. some beautiful middle ground between skip spence's "oar" and the clean
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
Roger Shepherd on Hamish
https://www.flyingnun.co.nz/blogs/features/hamish-kilgour-the-last-beatnik
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 December 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link
Thx for posting that.[2]
― tobo73, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 03:44 (three days ago) link
― everdose of cloverness (Drugs A. Money), Friday, 9 December 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link
― etc, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 10:06 (three days ago) link
This one?
https://i.discogs.com/ENdksQov2hyDtUpM0-PLOR3iI4eMhqlsUMaIZ6Ujxtw/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:600/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE2MDMx/ODUtMTY3MDM1Mjcw/NS01ODc1LmpwZWc.jpeg
I may have ripped my vinyl copy to digital, I'll need to check.
― Evan, Friday, 9 December 2022 15:54 (one year ago) link
Compilation for me is something of a secret handshake record when you’re starting to dig deeper into music. It’s one of the few albums I can remember someone being so enthused getting to recommend it to me so long ago. RIP.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 9 December 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link
The Clean probably via Grant Robertson (the Minister of Finance) who seems to be a legit FN fan - for better or worse. The Great Unwashed at #1:https://www.rnz.co.nz/national/programmes/the-mixtape/audio/2018709162/the-mixtape-grant-robertson― linee, Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:29 AM (three days ago)
― linee, Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:29 AM (three days ago)
I feel like I saw him at a few gigs back in the day (same as John Campbell); posted this to his Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/ClzjKGSPJAc/
Jesse Jarnow on WMFU played a lot of Hamish Kilgour-related stuff on his show the other day:
https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/122421
I may have ripped my vinyl copy to digital, I'll need to check.― Evan, Friday, December 9, 2022 3:54 PM (four hours ago)
― Evan, Friday, December 9, 2022 3:54 PM (four hours ago)
That's the one! Would love to hear it if you've ripped it - heard the Uncle Wiggly cover on one of Brian Turner's shows ages ago. Spent a little while trawling through Bandcamp listening to random Clean covers from bands all over the world - really approachable songs, eh.
― etc, Friday, 9 December 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link
Checked - I did rip it. I'll send you a zip!
― Evan, Friday, 9 December 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link
I would love to hear it too, Evan, if you don't mind graciously e-mailing the zip.
― SemStark, Friday, 9 December 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link
Sure thing
― Evan, Friday, 9 December 2022 22:01 (one year ago) link
Checked - I did rip it. I'll send you a zip!― Evan, Friday, December 9, 2022 9:00 PM
― Evan, Friday, December 9, 2022 9:00 PM
That'd be amazing! ILx webmail just sends something to the email we registered with, right? Don't think I've ever used it.
Another nice piece from the Christchurch Press, with quotes from Scotland's David Keenan among others:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/300760021/life-story-musician-hamish-kilgour-emanated-generosity-possibility
& a NY Times obit:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/09/arts/music/hamish-kilgour-dead.html
― etc, Saturday, 10 December 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link
That Jarnow interview is great. I wonder about the fate of the second Great Unwashed sessions that are mentioned. And the session he recorded with Richard Bishop for WFMU.
― InternationalWaters, Saturday, 10 December 2022 15:07 (one year ago) link
UGH! I just remembered I was supposed to send mp3s to people. I will try to remember to do that soon!
― Evan, Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
― Evan, Thursday, December 29, 2022 6:45 PM (one week ago)
Whenever works, no rush!
Marc Masters & John Howard talking about the Tally Ho 7":
https://wastoids.com/2022/12/22/the-spindle-the-clean-tally-ho-b-w-platypus/
― etc, Thursday, 5 January 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxHxiMlzHAA
― tylerw, Thursday, 5 January 2023 23:00 (one year ago) link
Got my compilation in the mail yesterday, was listening to it in the car today; besides "Point That Thing Somewhere Else," really liked "Flowers." Good aimless-driving drone.
― clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 03:28 (one year ago) link
'getting older' is not only the best song but also asks the most pertinent questions
― mookieproof, Friday, 6 January 2023 04:58 (one year ago) link
In the car for a few hours today, got through the rest of it. Very glad I bought it (triggered by unfortunate news).
"Point That Thing Somewhere Else," the song that piqued my interest, is still my favourite: first-tier, HOF drone. Yo La Tengo covering it is a perfect match. I only wish it went on for another five or six or ten minutes--they couldn't had another "Marquee Moon" to their name.
My second favourite is this, and it's almost as good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29IY2ttRUSM
There are a few ordinary songs on there (over 40 altogether, so of course there are), and there's one awful experiment, "Ludwig" (mercifully brief), but good songs kept popping up regularly, and the last two or three were really good, so nice finish.
― clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link
("could've," not "couldn't")
― clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:36 (one year ago) link
clemenza i'm surprised you hadn't heard them before, just because you seem very knowledgable about lots of other punk and indie from the era. Compilation was also my introduction to them, and still my go-to.
"Anything Could Happen" was the first one that really wowed me, and still one of my very faves of theirs. it's one of those songs that seems familiar, the very first time you hear it
― Karl Malone, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:43 (one year ago) link
I just didn't know them at all, although I realize now that Christgau reviewed them in the late '80s--there were a few New Zealand bands he kept up with--and I would have read those reviews at the time. They were good, but for whatever reason I never ended up buying anything.
― clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:45 (one year ago) link
have you heard any of the many other bands in their circle? chills, bats, tall dwarves, etc. All worth while and amazing.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 January 2023 00:04 (one year ago) link
I have Submarine Bells, and once posted about the three songs I really like: "Tied Up in Chain," "I Soar," and "Effloresce and Deliquesce." Nothing by the others.
― clemenza, Saturday, 7 January 2023 00:07 (one year ago) link
Check out The Bats for sure clemenza. My favorite is their first LP: Daddy's Highway
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 04:06 (one year ago) link
Also I emailed the Cleaned Out comp (+ random bonus goodies) to those of you that requested it. Please report here if it worked?
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 04:07 (one year ago) link
Thanks for the link, Evan, it came through without a hitch. You're a mensch!
― SemStark, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 04:56 (one year ago) link
Fantastic! You're very welcome.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 05:03 (one year ago) link
Evan: thanks, I remember the LP. Too expensive on Amazon, so I went the other route and downloaded it.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link
Great, hope you like it. I love Robert Scott's taste for melody.
― Evan, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:09 (one year ago) link
I think he's a pop genius, and when you squint just right he really recalls '70s Eno.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link
Pop genius is right
― Evan, Thursday, 12 January 2023 05:22 (one year ago) link
― etc, Thursday, January 5, 2023 5:57 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
Hey etc did you download your files?
― Evan, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:03 (one year ago) link
The sent link might expire soon, so just another bump to make sure it gets seen
― Evan, Friday, 13 January 2023 16:07 (one year ago) link
Currently travelling in rural NZ so have been away from the internet - will see if I can download onto my phone tonight.
― etc, Saturday, 14 January 2023 02:34 (one year ago) link
Don’t sweat it! I will resend if need be
― Evan, Saturday, 14 January 2023 05:39 (one year ago) link
Seeing clemenza get into the Clean does my heart good this Tues morning. Although I p much love every track on Compilation/Anthology Disc 1 I must admit that PTTSE is my favourite too, along w Getting Older & the live At the Bottom, which is the surf guitar/mutant disco mashup of my Michigan dreams
― everdose of cloverness (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:53 (one year ago) link
My favorite blog posted a nice rare tape recently. Note he is good about not posting and/or taking down links to commercially available music so worry not:
https://wilfullyobscure.blogspot.com/2022/12/the-clean-left-by-soft-tape-1981-in.html
― Evan, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 14:58 (one year ago) link
Hey, thanks again for sending that, Evan.
One of the nice things about the Clean's early stuff here is that so many Kiwi bands throw out a cover every now and then - here's surf band Planet of the Tapes with "Fish" on the second side of this 7" (~2:59 or so on this video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxsboiaSsgk
& here's an excerpt of Wellness doing a short and sweet dual-vocal take on "Point That Thing Somewhere Else" (nice to have a poppier cover as there's so many extended jams on it out there):
Last night was the first time I had seen Wellness play. I was hooked from their opening song. A cover of Point That Thing Somewhere Else by The Clean. Great band. pic.twitter.com/s2N5eR3d63— Paula (@paula_j_k) April 1, 2023
― etc, Sunday, 2 April 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link