New Yorker magazine alert thread

yeah, i'm still trying to figure out why he had a roof on his head.

I was pacing around the bedroom, in a sweat

^^^ a dandy summation of his prose style.

i know i saw mystic river but all i remember about it was sean penn crying

maybe the shingles thing was an extended metaphor for male pattern baldness

i know i saw mystic river but all i remember about it was sean penn crying

dude you don't remember Jack Nicholson making rat noises and Alec Baldwin telling awesome jokes?

i must've been getting popcorn

i was gonna say this is the most overwrought way of saying that someone broke up with you because you're a crashing bore that i've ever read but that probably isn't true

seriously though, denby, get a livejournal already

dude you don't remember Jack Nicholson making rat noises and Alec Baldwin telling awesome jokes?

um

"The Internet is always spoken of as a medium of connection, but it is also a medium of isolation that surfs the user and breaks him into separate waves going nowhere. There was the movie hunger, and the lust hunger, and the early stirrings of the money hunger. But where was the core, reconciling and joining the many elements together? In the tomes above the computer? My book about the classics was devoted to Columbia's version of the "core curriculum." That's why the big boys were up there, in the shelves above the monitor. What would they have said? Plato, observing a man staring at shadows in a cave, would not have been in the least surprised. But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation, just as he was dismayed by the passivity of religious contemplation, and Nietzsche, I was sure, would have been disgusted by the absence of vigorous, joyful activity -fighting, dancing, revelry, lovemaking - even though Nietzsche, poor crazy bastard, was as terrified of women as any man who ever lived."

the internet surfs the user!! wow, man, mind...is...blown.

a joke, dan

xpost

this is classic

http://wonkette.com/405905/the-wonkette-part-of-david-denbys-book-really-just-major-if-not-libelous-errors

But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation

yes yes I imagine he would have been dismayed.

"Nietzsche that dumb fucking idiot..."

lol I was 50/50 "I think he's kidding but that is delivered really really convincingly"

"hegel that sick motherfucker..."

also hegel might disapprove cause he was very religious but u kno historical context...

that wonkette article--jeez! Denby is steady trollin' Coulter style.

the wonkette article about chelsea clinton is pretty shit though

yeah, nobody comes off good in that arghicle

At the New Yorker, no one assails his listener like a jackhammer.

Unlike at, say, Club.

"The Internet is always spoken of as a medium of connection, but it is also a medium of isolation that surfs the user and breaks him into separate waves going nowhere. There was the movie hunger, and the lust hunger, and the early stirrings of the money hunger. But where was the core, reconciling and joining the many elements together? In the tomes above the computer? My book about the classics was devoted to Columbia's version of the "core curriculum." That's why the big boys were up there, in the shelves above the monitor. What would they have said? Plato, observing a man staring at shadows in a cave, would not have been in the least surprised. But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation, just as he was dismayed by the passivity of religious contemplation, and Nietzsche, I was sure, would have been disgusted by the absence of vigorous, joyful activity -fighting, dancing, revelry, lovemaking - even though Nietzsche, poor crazy bastard, was as terrified of women as any man who ever lived."

― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:57 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

the internet surfs the user!! wow, man, mind...is...blown.

― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:58 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sounds like he's using that Soviet Russian Internet.

huh? whats shit about the chelsea clinton post? jim even _explains_ it in the post on denby

it requires an explanation
it is snarky without a point
it isn't funny

look at david denby over here

it doesnt require an explanation if you are vaguely familiar with the very famous film "the miracle worker"
its point (as jim explains) is that the original article is shocked that an accomplished, stanford-educated 28-year-old woman is being "allowed" to speak for her mother at campaign events
it makes that point by humorously contrasting chelsea clinton with helen keller

Just out of curiosity, what/where is the "original article" that post was responding to?

sorry I misread jims post there is no one specific "original article"

Rick Moody on that John Lurie profile:

http://therumpus.net/2011/06/swinging-modern-sounds-30-what-is-and-is-not-masculine/

Also from DD this week:

"In regular movies, representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality than, say, books or paintings are."

I guess this one should be put on his editor but still...in movies, books are not as close to reality as representation is...?

hmm. i'm not sure your rearranging of the original sentence is accurate. the original makes sense to me.

no, hadrian's right... to get denby's meaning the sentence should read

"In regular movies, representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality than in, say, books or paintings."

or, preferably

"Representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality in regular movies, than in, say, books or paintings."

without the first comma tho

guys, its never gonna make sense

oh wait, yeah, i see it now. it's like a magic eye poster, but way less satisfying!

because the satisfaction of seeing that 3D dolphin is fucking untouchable

Correction, June 28, 2011: The original article erroneously stated that 95% of Italian men had never operated a washing machine.

haha the fact too good to check

the aleksander henon thing was very sad

xp max you should post that to reddit/mens rights.

Love the piece about Rays outfielder Sam Fuld.

Sam Fuiud

Really like Joan Acocella's stuff on dance, the one from 2011/6/27 on Alexei Ratmansky is pretty good (haven't finished it yet):

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/27/110627fa_fact_acocella

xp I'm uneasy about the Lurie profile but Moody's got some serious issues with the New Yorker and a weird idea that profile-writers should only be engaged in promoting their subjects' art and praising their wonderful personalities. I wonder which interviewer or New Yorker writer pissed off Moody years back.

clever and arch in that New Yorker way, clever, condescending, self-satisfied, off-handedly cruel, lazy, elitist, devoid of bona fide literary purpose

a sprinkling of the kinds of details beloved not of artists but of media workers

if you think like a tabloid writer, or like a hack, it’s perhaps possible to understand why this would seem like the meat of the story on John Lurie (ostensible subject of the profile); it’s the meat of the story if you are a meat-and-potatoes guy, a fetishist of parodistic ideas of the masculine, but it has nothing to do with who John Lurie is among family and friends.

haha i tried to read that post and i was just like 'this is how you write'

the nyer lurie article was awesome and salacious imho

Moody describes it in one para as both "salacious and tawdry" and "exceedingly boring". How can it be both? I like his idea that only interviewing Lurie's friends and admirers and going on at length about his individual recordings would be some kind of thrillride.

Also, get off your fucking high horse.

It’s ugly and dull and perhaps even morally embarrassing, at least if you give a shit about art, music, literature, or the loftier aspirations of man and woman.

Makes me want to go and reread that notorious Dale Peck takedown of Moody, just for lols

i gave up early on when he started picking apart "everyone in 'downtown New York,' a.k.a., 'the known universe—basically,'"

this isn't a criticism, but, the larry david piece in the july 4 issue is really helped by how easy it is to summon a manic, conversational, larry-david-voice in your head while reading

I like Larry David, but I thought that piece was dire. Jokes based around the Kubler-Ross stages of grief are pretty damn tired at this point.