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is that an excerpt from a Donald Barthelme story?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

lol

horseshoe, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

man people put up with your shit if you write for the NYer

~edgy~ (goole), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:44 (twelve years ago) link

"I didn't break down, or stop working. A shipshape magazine like The New Yorker doesn't let its writers fall into the sea. Good words must be written, and I wrote some of them. But there was a gathering heaviness in my chest and a feeling of forlornness, as if the roof had come flying off my head. Over that year of 1999, it came off piece by piece, as in a slow-motion movie of a storm, first the corners flapping and rising, and then the shingles lifting, a few at a time, then a few more, and then the whole thing violently tearing away in a gale. I was in love with my wife, novelist Cathleen Schine, and proud of the marriage, too, which seemed to me an astounding yet permanent fact in the world, like some comet that kept flying forever. It had lasted for eighteen years, and I couldn't believe it was over. I couldn't take it in; I was sure there had to be some mistake, some error, something we had forgotten, some place in the past we could go back to-a niche, a landing where we could reassemble and start again."

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:50 (twelve years ago) link

poor novelist cathleen schine.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

r.i.p. catherine, too brazen for this life

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:52 (twelve years ago) link

sorry i don't mean to make light of denby's shingles problem

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

crash is like one of the worst movies i've almost watched a third of

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

"Talk was the center; we used to talk over everything, endlessly. But in those bad years a polite silence had descended on the marriage, darkened on my side with foreboding and on hers with unhappiness. She was increasingly depressed. Dark circles appeared under her eyes, she became immobile-the bed was her home, her fortress. And then she wanted to get away. "If you really loved me, you would want me to be happy," she said on the day in 1999 when she first said she wanted to leave, a sentence that no lover ever wants to hear. She was sitting in bed, miserable. I was pacing around the bedroom, in a sweat."

in other words: OH GOD PLEASE STOP TALKING.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

crash was one of the last movies i've been to where i lol'd in the theater and was shushed by those around me

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, i'm still trying to figure out why he had a roof on his head.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

I was pacing around the bedroom, in a sweat

^^^ a dandy summation of his prose style.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

i know i saw mystic river but all i remember about it was sean penn crying

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link

maybe the shingles thing was an extended metaphor for male pattern baldness

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

i know i saw mystic river but all i remember about it was sean penn crying

dude you don't remember Jack Nicholson making rat noises and Alec Baldwin telling awesome jokes?

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:55 (twelve years ago) link

i must've been getting popcorn

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

i was gonna say this is the most overwrought way of saying that someone broke up with you because you're a crashing bore that i've ever read but that probably isn't true

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:56 (twelve years ago) link

seriously though, denby, get a livejournal already

brazenly alive (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

dude you don't remember Jack Nicholson making rat noises and Alec Baldwin telling awesome jokes?

um

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

"The Internet is always spoken of as a medium of connection, but it is also a medium of isolation that surfs the user and breaks him into separate waves going nowhere. There was the movie hunger, and the lust hunger, and the early stirrings of the money hunger. But where was the core, reconciling and joining the many elements together? In the tomes above the computer? My book about the classics was devoted to Columbia's version of the "core curriculum." That's why the big boys were up there, in the shelves above the monitor. What would they have said? Plato, observing a man staring at shadows in a cave, would not have been in the least surprised. But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation, just as he was dismayed by the passivity of religious contemplation, and Nietzsche, I was sure, would have been disgusted by the absence of vigorous, joyful activity -fighting, dancing, revelry, lovemaking - even though Nietzsche, poor crazy bastard, was as terrified of women as any man who ever lived."

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:57 (twelve years ago) link

the internet surfs the user!! wow, man, mind...is...blown.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

a joke, dan

xpost

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation

yes yes I imagine he would have been dismayed.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Nietzsche that dumb fucking idiot..."

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link

lol I was 50/50 "I think he's kidding but that is delivered really really convincingly"

chupacabra - a delicious burrito (DJP), Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

"hegel that sick motherfucker..."

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:00 (twelve years ago) link

also hegel might disapprove cause he was very religious but u kno historical context...

Mordy, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link

that wonkette article--jeez! Denby is steady trollin' Coulter style.

President Keyes, Thursday, 23 June 2011 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

the wonkette article about chelsea clinton is pretty shit though

little mushroom person (abanana), Friday, 24 June 2011 03:00 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, nobody comes off good in that arghicle

Don't start the chain you know? (forksclovetofu), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link

At the New Yorker, no one assails his listener like a jackhammer.

Unlike at, say, Club.

Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Friday, 24 June 2011 04:51 (twelve years ago) link

"The Internet is always spoken of as a medium of connection, but it is also a medium of isolation that surfs the user and breaks him into separate waves going nowhere. There was the movie hunger, and the lust hunger, and the early stirrings of the money hunger. But where was the core, reconciling and joining the many elements together? In the tomes above the computer? My book about the classics was devoted to Columbia's version of the "core curriculum." That's why the big boys were up there, in the shelves above the monitor. What would they have said? Plato, observing a man staring at shadows in a cave, would not have been in the least surprised. But Hegel, I imagined, would have been dismayed by the passivity of erotic contemplation, just as he was dismayed by the passivity of religious contemplation, and Nietzsche, I was sure, would have been disgusted by the absence of vigorous, joyful activity -fighting, dancing, revelry, lovemaking - even though Nietzsche, poor crazy bastard, was as terrified of women as any man who ever lived."

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the internet surfs the user!! wow, man, mind...is...blown.

― scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 20:58 Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Sounds like he's using that Soviet Russian Internet.

some greenzo (onimo), Friday, 24 June 2011 07:32 (twelve years ago) link

huh? whats shit about the chelsea clinton post? jim even _explains_ it in the post on denby

☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link

it requires an explanation
it is snarky without a point
it isn't funny

little mushroom person (abanana), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link

look at david denby over here

☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:07 (twelve years ago) link

it doesnt require an explanation if you are vaguely familiar with the very famous film "the miracle worker"
its point (as jim explains) is that the original article is shocked that an accomplished, stanford-educated 28-year-old woman is being "allowed" to speak for her mother at campaign events
it makes that point by humorously contrasting chelsea clinton with helen keller

☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 11:09 (twelve years ago) link

Just out of curiosity, what/where is the "original article" that post was responding to?

Don Rickles on the Dime (jaymc), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link

sorry I misread jims post there is no one specific "original article"

☂ (max), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:43 (twelve years ago) link

Rick Moody on that John Lurie profile:

http://therumpus.net/2011/06/swinging-modern-sounds-30-what-is-and-is-not-masculine/

Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Saturday, 25 June 2011 19:39 (twelve years ago) link

Also from DD this week:

"In regular movies, representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality than, say, books or paintings are."

I guess this one should be put on his editor but still...in movies, books are not as close to reality as representation is...?

Hadrian VIII, Sunday, 26 June 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link

hmm. i'm not sure your rearranging of the original sentence is accurate. the original makes sense to me.

Z S, Monday, 27 June 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link

no, hadrian's right... to get denby's meaning the sentence should read

"In regular movies, representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality than in, say, books or paintings."

or, preferably

"Representation is obviously more intimately joined to physical reality in regular movies, than in, say, books or paintings."

☂ (max), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:45 (twelve years ago) link

without the first comma tho

☂ (max), Monday, 27 June 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

guys, its never gonna make sense

ice cr?m, Monday, 27 June 2011 02:54 (twelve years ago) link

oh wait, yeah, i see it now. it's like a magic eye poster, but way less satisfying!

Z S, Monday, 27 June 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link

because the satisfaction of seeing that 3D dolphin is fucking untouchable

Z S, Monday, 27 June 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link

Correction, June 28, 2011: The original article erroneously stated that 95% of Italian men had never operated a washing machine.

haha the fact too good to check

caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

the aleksander henon thing was very sad

caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link

xp max you should post that to reddit/mens rights.

caek, Wednesday, 29 June 2011 09:45 (twelve years ago) link


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