Boston -- Classic or Dirty Water?

cause you know.."nashville is so fucking rock n roll mang. load up the van, the road calls, boston is full of arseholes and rude fucs" blount in detached cool guy one liner shokah"

yes, there are many preppie yuppie snotty people that are prolly rude to you when you visit. & you hate them. I DO TOO. but there are plenty of artists, writers, songwriters....nice people.

i am an artist, i dont equate my ego with my city. save that for superfans maybe. boston can be mega-rude. so can nyc. any us city i would think.

dont forget , there is more to do in nyc than boston. brilliant!
go bears

Boston sucks because you closed Harvard Donut.

disclaimer: there is nothing wrong w/rednecks. i have spent much time out in the hills of vermont, maine, etc in my 86chevy pickup, even lived out there for a few years. i can fish, camp, start a fire, look good in flannel, etc...

xpost: yeah man` twin city donuts is still around

Blount, don't bother, you're a dense motherfucking redneck too.

Oh xpost, kephm finally figured out just what was so goddamned offensive about his fucking tone, hurrrrrrah.

kephm's soooooo boston

boston suxx btw

someday i hope to live in london. i need the right job first

load up the van mang, the road calls

"Oh I have no problem with rednecks, they are so quaint and sometimes I drive their 'pick up trucks' and put on their 'beer hats' hahaha rednecks so cute"

Of course in Maine the rednecks are civilized, not like in that godforesaken shithole Nashville.

++Oh xpost, kephm finally figured out just what was so goddamned offensive about his fucking tone, hurrrrrrah.

um , yeah- tombot was nothing but charm in his list of points. riiiiiiight. so if you are bostonian you cant get angry? only if you are from DC. i get it.

xpost: ally- i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.

in philly, smokes are still $3-$4/pack ($2.50-$3/pack if yer willing to take a half-hour train ride to delaware). and AFAIK, you can still smoke in bars. and philly sports fans would eat boston sports fans for an appetizer -- they booed Santa, you know!

again with the sports.

whatever. i give up. really.

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I find these criticisms interesting, because so many of them are like...seeing Oxford Street and coming to the conclusion that London sucks, or going to Fifth Avenue and deciding that NYC sucks. Why bother listening to "Jamn 94.5" bullshit commercial radio when there are so many great college radio stations here? Turn that dial leftward! We've got some of the greatest college radio stations in the country--WMBR, WZBC, and WHRB, to name but a few.
First off, I've been living here going on five years now. I've never lived in "Boston" proper--I lived in Cambridge for 4 years (MIT), and now I work on documentary films for WGBH (the Boston PBS affiliate) and live in Somerville. I think in order to love/hate this place fully, you've got to experience all the parts of it.

Of course most of Boston--the rich, snotty parts, like the Back Bay--suck. Avoid them like the plague. Yes, Central Square (which is in Cambridge, not Boston) has become more gentrified..but look beyond Central; explore the outer edges..Jamaica Plain, Brighton, Allston, Somerville. South Boston. The parts of Cambridge that aren't directly on the T but still within walking distance. The parts that are less traveled.

There is beauty here; you just have to find it. And as much as I sometimes think I hate living here, I find myself getting defensive about it. Today in Central Square I ran into a group of kids from Berkeley. They were walking down Mass Ave, and one of them said "Dude, this is nothing like Telegraph." Of course it's not.. keep your alterna-hippies to yourself, I say. Sure, we don't have Amoeba Records, but we do have some fucking good record stores here! I live a stone's throw away from Other Music, Planet Records, Disc Diggers, Twisted Village, and Nuggets, to name but a few of the great independently- minded music shops around here.

So I found myself walking these Berkeley kids around Central Square, pointing at things and saying "See this bank? This used to be an anarchist bookstore. See this Gap and this Starbucks? This block used to be full of great independent coffeehouses." I felt terrible, and cheesy, a back-in-the-day geezer even though I'm in my 20s. But this small-town city is a part of me. Then I pointed them out to some interesting places that they should go. I cheer for the little independents around the city that are still thriving, and support them as much as I can. Central Square still does have things going for it. The Middle East, for one, (with many great & cheap shows this year!), Harvest, 1369 Coffeehouse, etc. I live near Davis Square now, which has got a good amount of independent coffeeshops, bookstores, and bars...good restaurants, and its own modest little art scene that isn't New York in scale but doesn't try to be. Everything here is in miniature, but there's something odd and wonderful about that sometimes.

Sometimes I feel like I'm living on a sinking ship--like this place has had it's day and now it's over. But that's like crying and saying that you'll never listen to an other band after the Pixies broke up, because they were the best band ever. (Mind you, I did this.) You've got to keep looking around for the interesting bits of life. And when I move out of here for good in August for grad school, I think I will miss it sorely, because for as many faults as Cambridge/Somerville/ Boston/etc have, they've still got a lot of good, and a lot that we take for granted.

And hey, if anyone is visiting the Boston area, send me an email and I'd be glad to show you around to all the glorious weird bits that still lie below the surface.

-- geeta (geet...), February 24th, 2002.

Please tell me in which of his points he directly criticized the people of Boston as being something such as "stuck up New Englanders", "moronic Affleckesque fuckwads", "second-rate jackasses with a chip on their shoulders from being from a shit ass city",* etc. and I will agree with your point. Note how when Chris V. gets pissy and pro-Boston he seems to get along juuuuuuust fine by everyone else on ILX.

Asshole. Writing a nasty post about how someone else is "dense" while calling them a "motherfucking redneck" is just about the stupidest, contradictory thing I've seen anyone do in a long while round here and this place is full of overwrought jackasses (hello GANGS OF ILX) so a winner is YOU.

* lest anyone get confused, I'm not advocating this point of view.

i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.
i do own a pickuptruck and i have lived out in the woods.

he was an ass. i was an ass. the difference being, he doesnt know what he is talking about when he talks of what to do (or not to do) in boston. i might of jumped all over him, but if you read all of the posts about boston, people shit all over this place. and that sort of bums me out.
i picked out tombot cause it was the last offending post on the thread.

people shit all over this place. and that sort of bums me out.

shove it buckner

People, the Chinatown bus is like $20 or something. Come on... I want to go to the museum...

when you visit an outhouse, the most appropriate thing to do is take a shit.

oh yeah: tom's comparisons of boston to DC, and my comparisons of boston to philly, are totally appropriate. because even though bostonians may not like to admit it, DC and philly are the caliber of american city to which boston is most appropriately comparable -- not NYC, Chicago or LA. (you could make args. that comparisons to DC [which IS the capital and hence as a default status of being an international city] or philly [which is what, 3 times larger than boston?] are also inapt in that boston is a "big fish, small pond" kinda place. but being a big fish in a small pond makes comparisons to NYC, Chicago or LA even more ludicrous!)

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

Hahaha Tad I kiss you.

boston has no history at all. none. it just sort of appeared on the east coast back in 87

haha what the fuck is going on on this thread!?

i have no idea. boston sucks cause everyone says so.
please show them around proper cause ilx is led to think fenway/landsdowne=boston

whoever said that Boston doesn't have history?

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

show me where someone said nyc is a small pond

who said that NYC was "a small pond"? this is the sentence where that came from:

but being a big fish in a small pond makes comparisons to NYC, Chicago or LA even more ludicrous!

the "small pond" therein being Boston, NOT NYC (or Chicago or LA).

people shit all over this place. and that sort of makes me happy.

abort! abort!

haha well, i see i was quoted above but note the date on that post -- 2002!

i live in NYC now

kephm you prove my point about boston every time you hit submit

the pond was a great small club. i dont know why boston even compares. so many qualoity bands are from philly.
boston sucks. go falcons. where is my espn?

blount! the man. i love you. kisses.

good job proving boston isn't filled with assholes. kudos on your efforts.

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

if kephm's posts are indicative, there must be some real good crack on boston's streets these days.

tad with the fratboy101 humor. go t another one.. oh wait espn updates!!! hol don

1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

I am seriously losing my shit.

this is all over a guy being offended some comic book store was recommended over another

i dont care about one small pond vs the other universe?
dont pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that

oh wait espn updates!!! hol don

this is all over a guy being offended some comic book store was recommended over another

i know what the fu....1.i dont care about one US city vs the other city. i really dont. i dont get it. dont want to.
2. i dont ilx to impress/pick up the ladyyzz. good luck with that
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?
nyc is a small pond? in what universe?

Sometimes I feel like I'm living on a sinking ship--like this place has had it's day and now it's over. But that's like crying and saying that you'll never listen to an other band after the Pixies broke up, because they were the best band ever. (Mind you, I did this.)

and what other great bands has boston given the world (besides the pixies) ... anal cunt?

the pixies and modern lovers were great comic books blount. go read them ok

it's like when the spinach got stuck inside haley joel osment