John Cusack's best movie

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it also helps that the supporting cast is so terrific in Say, so its still pretty watchable once your past the blind crushage stage of life

da croupier, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link

Plus Eliot Gould and Barbara Streisand's lovechild is in it!

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

Crowe isn't a good writer of women. Look at Renee Zellweger in JM: she's a composite of several irreconcilable qualities. She's tough, cute, an imbecile, the mother of a horrible whelp, a careerist. It's like Crowe thinks these things that cancel each other out make for a three-dimensional woman.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

the mother of a horrible whelp

lol

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

I'm sorry but he was pretty damn cute in that movie.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I was all like, Where's Gotcha?, because I think of that one with One Crazy Summer and The Sure Thing. But it turns out not to be Cusack, though imagine if they'd dyed his hair blonde and blow-dried it for this.

http://www.porraman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/gotcha-poster.jpg

Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

I'm a sucker for small kids in glasses who say stupid things though so.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jerry-maguire-kid.jpg

^^^ ugh. Would aim SCUC missile at his face.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

I LOVE HIM

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

*SCUD

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't see Say Anything until my 30s. Also I am British. Also I'm not nuts about In Your Eyes. Is that why I find it so overrated? It seems like a touchstone for a whole generation of American moviegoers.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

I know. Now is another story.

Fire away imo.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

CHARTS lighthole

○( ¬_¬)♫♪♫♪ (Lamp), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

Oh wow! He's in Natty Gann! One of my first elementary school crushes.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i love natty gann tbh

horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

the only actors to get a credit for The Thin Red Line should be Nolte and Koteas tbh

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

i heard how great say anything was for years, and when i finally saw it i was really underwhelmed. shit, i even like jerry maguire so u know im not that picky

that's part of the creepiness of the movie to me...it's like john cusack has just invented a person in his mind, which you do when you have an unrequited long-distance crush, but then the movie treats that crush like this exalted thing

― horseshoe, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:23 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i think this is why i didnt buy into it at all

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

btw:

lipnicki corrupted

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

i don't even think he's that cute<---cruisin for an sb, but he was dreamy in natty gann.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

ugh that damn kid

Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

I completely forgot about Natty Gann until just now.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

for all we know Lipnicki might enjoy SCUC missiles to the face now

da croupier, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

the only actors to get a credit for The Thin Red Line should be Nolte and Koteas tbh

― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:33 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark

and caviezel

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

and woody

Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ lipnicki corrupted

Why does everyone hate that kid! I watched it recently and I'm sorry but he's freakin adorable in the scenes where he first meets Jerry.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

caviezel, yes. woody, maybe - he does get a good death.

You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

Why does everyone hate that kid! I watched it recently and I'm sorry but he's freakin adorable in the scenes where he first meets Jerry.

I know lots of kids like this actually: they and their parents confuse precocity with cloying honesty. It's fucking intolerable.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, Lloyd Dobler is kinda creepy. I've done similarly creepy things, maybe you have too.

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link

i had that issue of S&S! i remember being fascinated by the film grain of that shot

little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

I know a lot of insufferable precocious little brats - I just didn't really get that from him. OK I can't believe I'm having this conversation ;).

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

I just feel bad because everyone hates him so much.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, Lloyd Dobler is kinda creepy. I've done similarly creepy things, maybe you have too.

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

for sure! it's just that the movie doesn't think he's creepy? or maybe it does and i'm not giving crowe enough credit.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

i thought the kid was cute in that movie, he was certainly way less offensive than tom cruise or the line "you complete me" or one million other things about jerry maguire

horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_UCGyrWz9s&t=51

Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

OK I can't believe I'm having this conversation ;). - lol

Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

The Sure Thing is great, and his character way less terrible than in Say Anything.

2012 and 1408 are shit. He should not make movies named after numbers. I'm worried he's going to keep turning into Nicolas Cage as time progresses, making shitty action movies and bad career choices that negate all the cool and awesome shit.

ailsa, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

shitty action movies and bad career choices have made nic cage 100x cooler & more intersting imo

Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

Man I need to watch Say Anything again after this but I'm afraid it'll be awful and my child/teen memories of LD as dreamy and wonderful will all be squashed. Maybe I'm better off not watching it again tbh.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes 'creepy' is necessary!

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link

after GPB and High Fidelity it looked like Cusack was doing more producing/writing and finding ways to make very typical 'Cusack projects' that were both good and totally in his wheelhouse -- but since then he's had a pretty weird mixed bag of roles, finally getting a little too old for rom coms or maybe just mostly doing really lousy ones, lot of ill-advised genre flicks. War Inc. was the last thing he had a heavy role in writing/producing and that was just kind of a misfire of a broad political satire, very ill-fitting.

cr?m margera (some dude), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link

sometimes 'creepy' is necessary!

― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

can you say more about this?

horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link

I think Cuze got thrown for a loop when best-friend-since-forever Jeremy Piven made a leap from second banana.

Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link

I dunno, is Lloyd's behavior really that bad? He hesitates approaching the girl bcz she's not in his league but nevertheless stays obsessed -- who can't relate to that?

Always like the 'soul classics' comp bit w/ the kid (a ubiquitous late-night ad of the era).

already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:07 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think lloyd's behavior is that bad but i guess i just find the romantic swooniness with which his relationship with a cipher is treated kind of off-putting.

horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:09 (twelve years ago) link

How old where you when you first saw it HS? Have you always felt this way?

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:10 (twelve years ago) link

lol sorry - it's just really interesting to me because I'm trying to remember details now and it's been too long.

\(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link


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