that's part of the creepiness of the movie to me...it's like john cusack has just invented a person in his mind, which you do when you have an unrequited long-distance crush, but then the movie treats that crush like this exalted thing
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah if i was lloyd i would have gotten rid of ione
― Cindy Mancini can ride my lawnmower anytime (thebingo), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it is weird, but for boys who do that and ladies who (at least think) they'd enjoy the attention (and since Ione is blank its easy to just push her out of the way of his gaze), SA is the UR-movie
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
I've seen Tapeheads more times than any other Cusack movie - probably more than all the others put together. What can I say? Ninja bitches.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
it also helps that the supporting cast is so terrific in Say, so its still pretty watchable once your past the blind crushage stage of life
Plus Eliot Gould and Barbara Streisand's lovechild is in it!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
Crowe isn't a good writer of women. Look at Renee Zellweger in JM: she's a composite of several irreconcilable qualities. She's tough, cute, an imbecile, the mother of a horrible whelp, a careerist. It's like Crowe thinks these things that cancel each other out make for a three-dimensional woman.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
the mother of a horrible whelp
lol
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sorry but he was pretty damn cute in that movie.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
I was all like, Where's Gotcha?, because I think of that one with One Crazy Summer and The Sure Thing. But it turns out not to be Cusack, though imagine if they'd dyed his hair blonde and blow-dried it for this.
http://www.porraman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/gotcha-poster.jpg
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
I'm a sucker for small kids in glasses who say stupid things though so.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/jerry-maguire-kid.jpg
^^^ ugh. Would aim SCUC missile at his face.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link
I LOVE HIM
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
*SCUD
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://samanthaiam.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/jerry-maguire-kid-then-and-now.jpg
I didn't see Say Anything until my 30s. Also I am British. Also I'm not nuts about In Your Eyes. Is that why I find it so overrated? It seems like a touchstone for a whole generation of American moviegoers.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.moviefone.com/media/2008/11/lipnicki110708.jpg
LOOK AT HIM NOW.
I know. Now is another story.
Fire away imo.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
CHARTS lighthole
― ○( ¬_¬)♫♪♫♪ (Lamp), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link
Oh wow! He's in Natty Gann! One of my first elementary school crushes.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i love natty gann tbh
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
the only actors to get a credit for The Thin Red Line should be Nolte and Koteas tbh
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
i heard how great say anything was for years, and when i finally saw it i was really underwhelmed. shit, i even like jerry maguire so u know im not that picky
― horseshoe, Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:23 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark
yeah i think this is why i didnt buy into it at all
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
btw:
lipnicki corrupted
i don't even think he's that cute<---cruisin for an sb, but he was dreamy in natty gann.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
ugh that damn kid
― Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
I completely forgot about Natty Gann until just now.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
for all we know Lipnicki might enjoy SCUC missiles to the face now
― da croupier, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:33 PM (18 seconds ago) Bookmark
and caviezel
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
and woody
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=23150886
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ lipnicki corrupted
Why does everyone hate that kid! I watched it recently and I'm sorry but he's freakin adorable in the scenes where he first meets Jerry.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
caviezel, yes. woody, maybe - he does get a good death.
― You Post on ILX (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link
Found this...http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/images/issue/420/thin-red-line_420.jpg
...when searching for this great Sight and Sound cover:http://im2.ebidst.com/upload_big/3/9/0/1288296320-9002-0.jpg
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
I know lots of kids like this actually: they and their parents confuse precocity with cloying honesty. It's fucking intolerable.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, Lloyd Dobler is kinda creepy. I've done similarly creepy things, maybe you have too.
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
i had that issue of S&S! i remember being fascinated by the film grain of that shot
― little dieter wants to FUCK (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
I know a lot of insufferable precocious little brats - I just didn't really get that from him. OK I can't believe I'm having this conversation ;).
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link
I just feel bad because everyone hates him so much.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
for sure! it's just that the movie doesn't think he's creepy? or maybe it does and i'm not giving crowe enough credit.
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
i thought the kid was cute in that movie, he was certainly way less offensive than tom cruise or the line "you complete me" or one million other things about jerry maguire
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_UCGyrWz9s&t=51
― Shart Shaped Box (Phil D.), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
OK I can't believe I'm having this conversation ;). - lol
― Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
The Sure Thing is great, and his character way less terrible than in Say Anything.
2012 and 1408 are shit. He should not make movies named after numbers. I'm worried he's going to keep turning into Nicolas Cage as time progresses, making shitty action movies and bad career choices that negate all the cool and awesome shit.
― ailsa, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
shitty action movies and bad career choices have made nic cage 100x cooler & more intersting imo
― Heady Snobbin (Pillbox), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
Man I need to watch Say Anything again after this but I'm afraid it'll be awful and my child/teen memories of LD as dreamy and wonderful will all be squashed. Maybe I'm better off not watching it again tbh.
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:54 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes 'creepy' is necessary!
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
after GPB and High Fidelity it looked like Cusack was doing more producing/writing and finding ways to make very typical 'Cusack projects' that were both good and totally in his wheelhouse -- but since then he's had a pretty weird mixed bag of roles, finally getting a little too old for rom coms or maybe just mostly doing really lousy ones, lot of ill-advised genre flicks. War Inc. was the last thing he had a heavy role in writing/producing and that was just kind of a misfire of a broad political satire, very ill-fitting.
― cr?m margera (some dude), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
― already president FYI (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, June 22, 2011 12:57 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
can you say more about this?
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
I think Cuze got thrown for a loop when best-friend-since-forever Jeremy Piven made a leap from second banana.
― Let me tell you something about that song. (Eazy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 17:04 (twelve years ago) link