"Mutant slow techno and Kevin Drumm records..." - A thread for Raime, Chasing Voices, Old Apparatus etc.

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i think the first emptyset album is a lot better than the second

i guess the difference is the first sounds a lot like the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore whereas to my ears the second is much more "pan sonic"

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

To be honest, I just picked up the most recent one and not their first. I'll have to do so now.

I love me some pan sonic, though.

mh, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:57 (six years ago) Permalink

me too but i think metri / olenta / tulkinta are sort of next-level compared to the rest of the discography

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Visiting London next week - what's a good shop to find these sorts of things? Also, minimal techno in general?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 18:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Phonica on Poland Street, Soho, is worth checking out.

kraudive, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Did anyone check out the Boomkat dl - Thanet to Jodrell Bank? Lots of this kinda thing there. Very good.

kraudive, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 19:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks Kraudive! Will check it out...kinda hard to get some of this stuff in the states...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 22:45 (six years ago) Permalink

There are a lot of record shops in the area - have a wander. Sister Ray on Berwick St and Sounds of The Universe on Broadwick St are both within half a mile of Phonica and are great. 3 of the UK's best record shops within a very short distance.

kraudive, Wednesday, 22 June 2011 22:59 (six years ago) Permalink

hey barnaby what kind of file is that? what would i open it with

flopson, Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:02 (six years ago) Permalink

a lot of the stuff on this thread a little too timid for me. wish it were gloomier. or more dystopian. i did like that last emptyset album since someone mentioned emptyset. emptyset was supposed to be some extreme example of dubstep? or maybe i am confusing them with someone else. i will check this thread from time to time though.

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:11 (six years ago) Permalink

i like justin's stuff in this vein, but i also kinda feel like he can smoke a joint and crank this shit out in his sleep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0mtwEtZlYk&feature=related

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:20 (six years ago) Permalink

maybe i'm just more of a "dark ambient" fan. though i love beats too of course. just feel like the dubstep/avant techno stuff i hear doesn't hit as hard as i'd like it too. if you do like deep dark stuff, this is a great mix:

Xela & Jefre Cantu-Ledesma - Love Is The Beginning
Tholen - Skeletons of Steel
Visions - Summoning the Void
Yui Onodera & Celer - The Street of a Rainy, Gray Day
John Chowning - Phoné
Per Nørgård - Iris
Fire in the Head - I'm Not Here to Coexist, I'm Here to Win
Sky Burial - Chroma Polaris
Jean-Claude Risset - Avel
Blood Box - Mother of Dust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zs5gUor3PI&feature=related

scott seward, Thursday, 23 June 2011 00:30 (six years ago) Permalink

barnaby, you are awesome

― tipper gore (nakhchivan), Wednesday, June 22, 2011

Ha, no problem.

hey barnaby what kind of file is that? what would i open it with

― flopson, Thursday, June 23, 2011

It's just a .zip file, so something free like Stuffit Expander will open those for you.

Visiting London next week - what's a good shop to find these sorts of things? Also, minimal techno in general?

― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, June 22, 2011

For the more ambient and/or noisier end of this stuff I would recommend Second Layer Records in Highgate.

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Thursday, 23 June 2011 08:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the recommendations everybody. Will try to hit all four of the ones mentioned.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 June 2011 10:19 (six years ago) Permalink

<3 your posts scott!

I'd agree that there are very few spots where the stuff this thread has kicked off with really gets the dread/noise factor that dark ambient, noise, or even the drone/doom metal stuff does. I think that at points, the Sandwell District/Downwards label stuff goes in that direction, but is still dancefloor-oriented.

Has anyone else listened to the new Andy Stott record? It's right in this vein and I've been listening to it quite a bit.

mh, Thursday, 23 June 2011 13:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Love the new Andy Stott.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 23 June 2011 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

weird my computer doesnt recognize it as a .zip file & i have unzipped like six .zip/.rar files today wonder whats up

flopson, Friday, 24 June 2011 08:21 (six years ago) Permalink

the dark ambient connection w/ this stuff is Lull aka Mike Harris. he has strong ties to the Downwards/Sandwell District crew

but I'm not sure the stuff in this thread is really aiming for the same level of darkness as doom metal or whatever. i think particularly the UK guys are purposely placing themselves in the lineage of old school industrial stuff (in the same way that Panasonic and Porter Ricks and Noto were in the 90s/early 00s). see also the design aesthetic -- bleak imagery, xeroxed fanzine style

that Kevin Gormand Weiland 7" on Downwards is less techno/dub more noise. kinda sounds like early Cabs

this came out last year on Modern Love, I think, quite minimal but sick nonetheless, esp if you're into those Mika Vainio recs that Vahid mentioned upthread

http://youtu.be/xNXtrG4J_B8

http://youtu.be/GQbN1aXoGkY

corpse pose (missingNO), Friday, 24 June 2011 09:05 (six years ago) Permalink

actually discogs said it came out on Young Americans which is a Modern Love sub label. they put out a dope looking Daphne Oram boxset!

corpse pose (missingNO), Friday, 24 June 2011 09:11 (six years ago) Permalink

weird my computer doesnt recognize it as a .zip file & i have unzipped like six .zip/.rar files today wonder whats up

Are you on Windows? I couldn't unzip it with the Windows built-in "zip folders" extractor because the directory inside the zip has a " in its name and that's not a valid character in a Windows filename, but Winrar extracted it OK (gave me a bunch of error messages but all the files were there).

Thanks for the mix, Barnaby. Hadn't heard "Acidbathory" before and dug it, had an entertaining morning of listening to all the Mixcloud tracks which included it afterwards too thanks to their artist search thing.

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 24 June 2011 09:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I re-uploaded barnaby's mix in what might be more Windows-friendly form. Hope that's ok, barnaby.

dear mods, if barnaby requests this post be removed, please do so

sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 24 June 2011 10:06 (six years ago) Permalink

My, my... I really like all this stuff on paper but I can't tear myself away from the Bear Family Gene Vincent boxed set.

Phrygian (Call the Cops), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:17 (six years ago) Permalink

lol "Mike" Harris. Mick

corpse pose (missingNO), Friday, 24 June 2011 12:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I spend hours convincing myself that I don't need everything on Modern Love and its sublabels, then you have to post that Suum Cuique thing!

mh, Friday, 24 June 2011 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

thank you!

flopson, Friday, 24 June 2011 18:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I re-uploaded barnaby's mix in what might be more Windows-friendly form. Hope that's ok, barnaby.

dear mods, if barnaby requests this post be removed, please do so

― sambal dalek (a passing spacecadet), Friday, June 24, 2011

Thanks very much for doing this!

Super Receptor (Barnaby, Hardly), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Loving the first track linked. shit, I fear ILM is making me disappear down rabbitholes again.

sometimes all it takes is a healthy dose of continental indiepop (tomofthenest), Tuesday, 28 June 2011 11:13 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

guess the difference is the first sounds a lot like the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore whereas to my ears the second is much more "pan sonic"

Inspired by this moonship post I've been listening to the first emptyset album a lot, and I get where it's definitely more like mika vainio's solo work, but I don't think I'd call it quiet or chilly! It's more throbbing and dancefloor-ready if anything.

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:56 (six years ago) Permalink

That is to say, it reminds me more of his work as Ø than the work under his own name.

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"primate", tommy four seven's first album, is incredible. The kind of techno that falls into this topic.

sisilafami, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:43 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah when i was referring to "the quiet, chilly mika vainio of yore" i was referring to Ø records

i meant "chilly" as in cold, "quiet" as in understated

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

In that case, totally otm

mh, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 19:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Would Actress fit in here? He's just given away some well nice tracks http://www.factmag.com/2011/07/15/actress-is-giving-away-tracks-on-his-twitter-again/

I heard the new Old Apparatus the other day, wasn't that into it really, not a patch on the first 12" anyway. Kinda sounds like Clouds but not quite as good.

jimitheexploder, Saturday, 16 July 2011 12:26 (six years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSsUSFKLBHs

jimitheexploder, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy CHRIST this new Kangding Ray album (Or) is astonishing.

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 21:09 (six years ago) Permalink

Whoa. Listening now. Four tracks in, I agree - pretty outstanding.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:30 (six years ago) Permalink

It gets even stronger as it goes on, too... The last track backs off the intensity a bit and is just :-0

Clarke B., Wednesday, 3 August 2011 22:33 (six years ago) Permalink

"Mirror" is my kinda jam. Love this whole thing. Will buy.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Listening to this now and yes, it's great. Thanks Clarke.

Quantum of Pie (NickB), Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Just listened to the samples on their website and I was sold on it about two seconds in!

mh, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Same thing happened when I previewed it in the shop yesterday. I've owned it for, like, 25 hours and it's already one of my favorite things to come out all year... And it's been a hell of a year so far!

Clarke B., Thursday, 4 August 2011 00:38 (six years ago) Permalink

hmm ... really?

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:07 (six years ago) Permalink

You mean about it being a great year so far? My own viewpoint is skewed admittedly, since I feel like I got back into music in a really serious way after a few years of being less immersed in it. But yeah, I'm loving this.

Clarke B., Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:17 (six years ago) Permalink

it's undoubtedly been a banner year for techno

kangding ray is fantastic -- raster noton generally have been on fire recently

has anybody heard the new mika vainio album on mego? samples sound like pansonic remixing filth/cop era swans

missingNO, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:24 (six years ago) Permalink

and he covers a stooges song

missingNO, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:25 (six years ago) Permalink

has anybody heard the new mika vainio album on mego?

yes but i didnt like it very much, seemed sorta blah

Magic (Lamp), Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:26 (six years ago) Permalink

I've got it special-ordered and I'm chomping at the bit about it... WOO-HOO. Did you hear his record Heijastuva (under his [null set symbol] pseudonym) from earlier this year? Not techno at all really but beautiful and gentle (for him).

Clarke B., Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:27 (six years ago) Permalink

i dunno that kangding ray sounds like a dry retread ... though i agree it's been a good few years for techno

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 4 August 2011 01:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm a bit of a dry retread myself, so it works... Jesus, the last track "La Belle" is so gorgeous and not at all dry, though. It just inches forward heartbreakingly, those simple chords see-sawing and gradually getting subsumed. You know what it's like, like a lot? SUCCOUR by Seefeel! No wonder I love it so much.

Clarke B., Thursday, 4 August 2011 02:10 (six years ago) Permalink

hieroglyphic being "got no place to go"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42hUBeEb1hw

missingNO, Thursday, 4 August 2011 04:18 (six years ago) Permalink

I loved the EPs & Quarter Turn to distraction, but somehow didn't engage with Tooth. I need to go back to it.

Sunn O))) Brother Where Art Thou? (Chinaski), Wednesday, 14 December 2016 12:11 (eleven months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

I think I posted this Rorqual album on another thread, but it's probably worth sharing here for it's creeping, oozy ambience with occasional leaden beats.

http://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/sei-ci

It kind of reminds me of the electronic stuff on Sigma Editions (Parmentier and Minit specifically) through a darker lens.

Anthology of Literature's Finest Penis Descriptions (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 3 February 2017 10:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

nine months pass...

this Contort Yourself label is really cool, lots of bangin industrial techno

https://www.discogs.com/label/770902-Contort-Yourself

brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 02:43 (one month ago) Permalink

i really like this Finding The Floor album by Profligate from a few years back.. moody industrial stuff
https://www.discogs.com/Profligate-Finding-The-Floor/master/787275

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXuvx7fDe0Q

brimstead, Thursday, 9 November 2017 02:47 (one month ago) Permalink

New Kevin Drumm album is also very nice. https://kevindrumm.bandcamp.com/album/october-early-warning

Federico Boswarlos, Thursday, 9 November 2017 20:38 (one month ago) Permalink

i really want that new contort yourself 80's tape comp! but i can't be buying stuff right now. worth it just for this track alone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqCqOZkuAw

scott seward, Friday, 10 November 2017 17:18 (one month ago) Permalink


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