David Sylvian-Secrets Of The Beehive

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would love to someday hear the original version of Ride (the one on Everything and Nothing was partially re-recorded). there used to be a snippet of it on the internet somewhere, but I don't think the full thing ever leaked.

akm, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

With time, however, I found it to be his Scott Walker record

This is very, very true and beautifully said, NTI

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 22:06 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

well distributed results--can imagine most also love mother and child. a classic record

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah really nice to see such a well distributed set of votes...kinda proving what a strong album it is...also pretty amazing to think he made this album in his late 20's...

The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 22 June 2011 15:35 (twelve years ago) link

five years pass...

On the waterfront the rain
Is pouring in my heart
Here the memories come in waves
Raking in the lost and found of years
And though I'd like to laugh
At all the things that led me on
Somehow the stigma still remains

Is our love strong enough?"

'tis that time of the year again. So beautiful it aches.

Played 'Beehive' after The Blue Nile, with Mark Hollis lined up next. Any other records that fit this mood?

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 20 November 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

(On Spotify the album does have 'Promise' as the closer, but not 'Forbidden Colours' before it, which drives me nuts. Fucking streaming era)

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 20 November 2016 18:50 (seven years ago) link

The album originally had neither of these at the end; forbidden colours was a bonus track added to the CD. But when it was remastered several years ago, Promise was swapped. I don't know why. forbidden Colors, at least that version, is now orphaned; to the extent that that matters in these 'everything is available somewhere on the internet' days.

akm, Sunday, 20 November 2016 18:59 (seven years ago) link

I know, but that's why it doesn't make sense to me that they did add on Promise, but left off Forbidden Colours (the 'Beehive' version the best version around imho). Ah well.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 20 November 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

"Forbidden Colours" never felt like a part of the album, but that never bothered me. Ending the record on such a stately note seemed appropriate in some way.

I remember being a touch disappointed by Beehive when I got it – I loved how electronic Brilliant Trees and Gone to Earth were. And in some ways it really stands apart in his catalog. But it creates a perfect mood.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 November 2016 16:07 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

Perfect before-bed music.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 21 February 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link

Wisdom.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 21 February 2020 03:56 (four years ago) link

Perfect before-bed music.

mr.raffles, Friday, 21 February 2020 04:09 (four years ago) link

Mother and Child deserved more votes.

fetter, Friday, 21 February 2020 10:13 (four years ago) link

Was coming in to say the very same thing, fetter! That and WPDOA. But I am happy one of my ultimate favorite songs, "Orpheus" (and what I named my old 1995 Chevy Blazer) came up on top, and two additional favorites of mine, "Let the Happiness In" and "The Boy with the Gun", placed not far behind. BTW, there's probably already been a DBOAC poll, hasn't there?

We Live as We Dee, Alone (deethelurker), Friday, 21 February 2020 13:13 (four years ago) link

We've only polled this and "Brilliant Trees". There's a rather short DBOAC thread and that's it, so poll away!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 21 February 2020 15:59 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Happy birthday!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

is this his best album?

up and down. SO FAST! stay together.đź’™ (Austin), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:29 (one year ago) link

Maybe. I've quite come around to Gone to Earth, night music I admire.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

I like Gone to Earth best because of the way the two albums play off of each other. The songs are like a journey taking you to the place where the instrumentals can envelop you.

"Orpheus" is the centrepiece of this album, but I think I'd choose the Scott Walker tribute of "Waterfront". I felt that Sylvian's voice got a little rougher and deeper on this record, which is strange since it was only a year later and he hadn't toured between the two records.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 23 February 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link

I don’t know this album but Gone to Earth is tremendous, dark velvet maroon, gorgeous sound world

not too strange just bad audio (brimstead), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link

haha, I love Gone to Earth but like to listen to it on sunny autumn days!

the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Thursday, 23 February 2023 16:39 (one year ago) link

seven months pass...

Ideal Sunday morning music.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 October 2023 12:54 (six months ago) link

the only bad thing i have to say about this album is that it's a tragedy he didn't manage to finish "ride" at the time

ufo, Sunday, 22 October 2023 13:22 (six months ago) link

From his wiki, never heard this one before:

"I'm not currently thinking about a future in the arts. To quote Sarah Kendzior from her book The View From Flyover Country, "In an article for Slate, Jessica Olien debunks the myth that originality and inventiveness are valued in U.S. society: 'This is the thing about creativity that is rarely acknowledged: Most people don't actually like it.'"[78]"

Preach The Crapen (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 22 October 2023 14:36 (six months ago) link

Though the version of "Ride" on Everything and Nothing isn't exactly the same mix that would have been on this record (the rhythm tracks sound especially different to what he would have done in 1987), I tried coming up with a LP sequence that would integrate it:

Let the Happiness In
Mother and Child
September
Ride
The Devil's Own

The Boy With the Gun
When Poets Dreamed of Angels
Maria
Waterfront
Orpheus

It's so long and such an obvious centrepiece to the record that it's hard to include it without throwing one of the sides off-kilter, hence the radical track shuffling.

It seems that Sylvian gets more satisfaction from visual art and occasional installation-type work these days than even working the margins of popular music where he last wound up.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 October 2023 15:18 (six months ago) link

Even if he was unhappy with the recording at that stage, it's strange that he didn't perform "Ride" on his subsequent tour. I would have preferred to hear it over some of the instrumental indulgences he and the band did.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 22 October 2023 15:22 (six months ago) link

Though the version of "Ride" on _Everything and Nothing_ isn't exactly the same mix that would have been on this record (the rhythm tracks sound especially different to what he would have done in 1987)


David Torn’s guitar is also mixed further back in this. If ever he wanted to include it, I would imagine it wouldn’t be that hard to match the mix to Beehive.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 22 October 2023 19:37 (six months ago) link

Not really the right thread but surprised to see a Forbidden Colours T-shirt in 2023.

https://shop.davidsylvian.com/products/forbidden-colours-t-shirt

djh, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:12 (six months ago) link

yeah he's rolling out a bunch of merch which is...weird

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 23 October 2023 21:43 (six months ago) link


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